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Can someone explain this to me?

Valymer
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Ring #1:

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Ring #2:

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Note the different power of the enchant

Glyph:

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Before glyph is applied:

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After glyph is applied:

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I just wasted a Kuta, so I'd really appreciate it someone could tell me what is going on here.
  • nimander99
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    I can't explain it, but I reported this right after update 6 and still haven't heard anything about it...
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  • Nyghthowler
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    If I understand the situation correctly, you applied a glyph to a ring of the healer and it didn't change the stats.

    As far as I know you cant put glyphs on items that come pre-enchanted. They can only be used on un-enchanted items.
    You need a White piece of jewelry at that level to apply that glyph to.

    Disclaimer; I might not understand what the OP posted OR I could be full of [snip]...

    edit; changed ring to jewelry

    [Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Cursing & Profanity]
    Edited by ZOS_UlyssesW on May 30, 2015 10:14PM
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  • Valymer
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    If I understand the situation correctly, you applied a glyph to a ring of the healer and it didn't change the stats.

    As far as I know you cant put glyphs on items that come pre-enchanted. They can only be used on un-enchanted items.
    You need a White piece of jewelry at that level to apply that glyph to.

    Disclaimer; I might not understand what the OP posted OR I could be full of [snip]...

    edit; changed ring to jewelry

    No. I made another glyph, relogged, and waited a bit and then tried to enchant the exact same ring. The result:

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    As you can see, this time it applied the correct amount of reduction (200) to the same ring.

    [Moderator Note: Edited quote to match moderated version]
    Edited by ZOS_UlyssesW on May 30, 2015 10:15PM
  • Flaminir
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    I think the Kuta you used is clearly substandard knock off merchandise...

    Probably purchased from some disreputable Khajiit hanging around on a street corner in some foul part of the dominion I would bet...

    Made in Bosmer sweatshops somewhere.

    I'd take it back & demand your gold back! :D;)

    Though the Khajiit is probably sunning himself on Stros M'kai with your gold by now... in which case customer service perhaps could help?

    Edited by Flaminir on May 30, 2015 6:17PM
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  • Valymer
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    Flaminir wrote: »
    I think the Kuta you used is clearly substandard knock off merchandise...

    Probably purchased from some disreputable Khajiit hanging around on a street corner in some foul part of the dominion I would bet...

    Made in Bosmer sweatshops somewhere.

    I'd take it back & demand your gold back! :D;)

    Though the Khajiit is probably sunning himself on Stros M'kai with your gold by now... in which case customer service perhaps could help?

    I submitted a ticket. We will see.
  • NewBlacksmurf
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    It happens a lot to different items and gear and enchants
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  • Yinmaigao
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    It happens a lot to different items and gear and enchants

    Unfortunately true :cry:
  • Valymer
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    Support blamed it on addons.

    Not sure why I still bother with this game. But getting close to the limit of my tolerance now.
  • Nebthet78
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    OP, yes there are different issues that have been doing on since the conversion to 1.6/eso 2.0. The major one was with the glyphs and enchants not converting normally. I know in this last patch they had stated they fixed the enchant issue where the enchant would apply based on the type and aspect of the enchantment and not the quality of the jewelry.

    I had a strange issue with the V10 Unassailable jewelry set when the conversion happened. I was grinding CP in Bangrokai and found another piece of the set I already had, and I noticed something strange. The set bonuses were lower on the items I already had in 1.5 than new ones I just found.
    (2item bonus) v10
    After 1.5 conversion: 841 max health
    Found on new item: 853 max health

    (5th item bonus)
    After 1.5 conversion: 3400 dmg+spell resist after blocking
    Found on new item: 3450

    Not much of a difference, but enough to make me grind for a new set.

    If I understand the situation correctly, you applied a glyph to a ring of the healer and it didn't change the stats.

    As far as I know you cant put glyphs on items that come pre-enchanted. They can only be used on un-enchanted items.
    You need a White piece of jewelry at that level to apply that glyph to.

    Disclaimer; I might not understand what the OP posted OR I could be full of $#!+...

    edit; changed ring to jewelry

    This in incorrect Nyghthowler. You can re-enchant almost any piece of jewelry you come across. There are only a few that state they cannot be changed.

    There would be no point in collecting certain jewelry sets to use in conjunction with your other sets if you couldn't change the enchants on them, especially when they are purple.

    The only thing on jewelry that cannot be changed are the traits.
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  • PKMN12
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    Valymer wrote: »
    Support blamed it on addons.

    Not sure why I still bother with this game. But getting close to the limit of my tolerance now.

    well OBVIOUSLY it cannot be this perfect game that has no major glitches are issues.........

    /sarcasm
  • dafox187
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    have you used imperilzation on one?

    don't get mad at my spelling, autocorrect doesn't cover fantasy.
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  • Valymer
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    dafox187 wrote: »
    have you used imperilzation on one?

    You mean converting to Imperial style?

    No, but I'm not sure how that would have anything to do with it since an identical enchant worked correctly shortly after that (and nothing else changed).
  • NewBlacksmurf
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    Valymer wrote: »
    Support blamed it on addons.

    Not sure why I still bother with this game. But getting close to the limit of my tolerance now.

    Hmmmm....wonder what they'll say to me having not used any adding since launch?
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  • NewBlacksmurf
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    Odd that posts are moderated but no official responses from ZOS yet
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  • Nyghthowler
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    Nebthet78 wrote: »
    OP, yes there are different issues that have been doing on since the conversion to 1.6/eso 2.0. The major one was with the glyphs and enchants not converting normally. I know in this last patch they had stated they fixed the enchant issue where the enchant would apply based on the type and aspect of the enchantment and not the quality of the jewelry.

    I had a strange issue with the V10 Unassailable jewelry set when the conversion happened. I was grinding CP in Bangrokai and found another piece of the set I already had, and I noticed something strange. The set bonuses were lower on the items I already had in 1.5 than new ones I just found.
    (2item bonus) v10
    After 1.5 conversion: 841 max health
    Found on new item: 853 max health

    (5th item bonus)
    After 1.5 conversion: 3400 dmg+spell resist after blocking
    Found on new item: 3450

    Not much of a difference, but enough to make me grind for a new set.

    If I understand the situation correctly, you applied a glyph to a ring of the healer and it didn't change the stats.

    As far as I know you cant put glyphs on items that come pre-enchanted. They can only be used on un-enchanted items.
    You need a White piece of jewelry at that level to apply that glyph to.

    Disclaimer; I might not understand what the OP posted OR I could be full of $#!+...

    edit; changed ring to jewelry

    This in incorrect Nyghthowler. You can re-enchant almost any piece of jewelry you come across. There are only a few that state they cannot be changed.

    There would be no point in collecting certain jewelry sets to use in conjunction with your other sets if you couldn't change the enchants on them, especially when they are purple.

    The only thing on jewelry that cannot be changed are the traits.

    Thank you for the correction and information. I haven't tried to put a glyph on a set piece since launch because it wouldn't do it.
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  • RazzPitazz
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    Odd that posts are moderated but no official responses from ZOS yet

    Moderators have one job, to moderate. They can only answer questions that they either have specific knowledge about or have inspired for a response from am individual who actually knows. Most of the time the responses need to be allowed from higher ups before they can say anything.
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  • pecheckler
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    Odd that posts are moderated but no official responses from ZOS yet

    Moderators have one job, to moderate. They can only answer questions that they either have specific knowledge about or have inspired for a response from am individual who actually knows. Most of the time the responses need to be allowed from higher ups before they can say anything.

    Sounds like employees that should be replaced with software. At the very least they do not deserve a Z next to their post. It's annoying trying to find real information from real developers and always finding the thread police responses.
    End the tedious inventory management game.
  • Xexpo
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    gold enchants work best on gold jewelry

    i feel like gold enchants that seem to work on lesser jewelry (like purple) is a bug/glitch
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  • NewBlacksmurf
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    Odd that posts are moderated but no official responses from ZOS yet

    Moderators have one job, to moderate. They can only answer questions that they either have specific knowledge about or have inspired for a response from am individual who actually knows. Most of the time the responses need to be allowed from higher ups before they can say anything.

    They can moderate without showing tags.
    I've got a few pm's where they've moderated without tags.

    On the other hand as the comment says above...Maybe they should be MOD and the other staff should be ZOS
    It's so many threads that could just have a mod edit with a link to a previously stated answer OR a ZOS response for most threads

    WTB more staff per the increased moderation post
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  • Valymer
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    kaer426 wrote: »
    gold enchants work best on gold jewelry

    i feel like gold enchants that seem to work on lesser jewelry (like purple) is a bug/glitch

    That's not how the game has worked up until now.

    And the fact that it worked correctly about 5 minutes after I posted this (and wasted a gold glyph due to the bug) points to this being just another annoying bug to add to the ever-increasing list.
  • Valymer
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    Valymer wrote: »
    Support blamed it on addons.

    Not sure why I still bother with this game. But getting close to the limit of my tolerance now.

    Hmmmm....wonder what they'll say to me having not used any adding since launch?

    I'm sure they will just find something else to blame it on. I mean it's not like Support can actually go look at the code and see why it's doing that, I had just hoped that they would have the decency to refund my wasted kuta or glyph. But it's par for the course with this game and this company.
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