ZOS! Your game is broken!

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ZOS! Your game is broken!
We can't wait your major patch!!

The population unbalance is a BIG problem!!
PvP is dead!!


@Chillrend NA Northern High Rock Gate
2015/5/28 19:55 EDT


Edited by EIGHTS on May 29, 2015 12:00AM
I'm not native speaker in English. I hope that I don't make you misunderstand.
  • nikolaj.lemcheb16_ESO
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    Hey they could allow mercenary NPCs again for DC side only. :)
  • Legedric
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    Get your DC peeps together and find your own solution to the pop imbalance... I know it's hard but that's it waht is left for you.

    I never saw a game where faction balance really worked out... so don't expect a solution to this here either.
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  • Soulac
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    Working as intended.
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  • RinaldoGandolphi
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    Legedric wrote: »
    Get your DC peeps together and find your own solution to the pop imbalance... I know it's hard but that's it waht is left for you.

    Its a shame 7 DC are stucking fighting 30+ EP in that screen shot and they are being told its "their fault" for not having enough people...We are really big on irony around here.

    What exactly are they supposed to do? Nothing Dc can do is going to change the fact that being outnumbered like they are in that screenshot is a regular thing, 7 people don't have a prayer of stopping a zerg of that size in the current state of this game.

    The only thing left is either some AD and EP start rolling DC toons or the game dies....thats all that "left" for any of us.
    Edited by RinaldoGandolphi on May 29, 2015 12:33PM
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  • Pchela
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    Legedric wrote: »
    Get your DC peeps together and find your own solution to the pop imbalance... I know it's hard but that's it waht is left for you.

    Its a shame 7 DC are stucking fighting 30+ EP in that screen shot and they are being told its "their fault" for not having enough people...We are really big on irony around here.

    What exactly are they supposed to do? Nothing Dc can do is going to change the fact that being outnumbered like they are in that screenshot is a regular thing, 7 people don't have a prayer of stopping a zerg of that size in the current state of this game.

    The only thing left is either some AD and EP start rolling DC toons or the game dies....thats all that "left" for any of us.

    DC was at 3 bars when this happened.
  • RinaldoGandolphi
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    Pchela wrote: »
    Legedric wrote: »
    Get your DC peeps together and find your own solution to the pop imbalance... I know it's hard but that's it waht is left for you.

    Its a shame 7 DC are stucking fighting 30+ EP in that screen shot and they are being told its "their fault" for not having enough people...We are really big on irony around here.

    What exactly are they supposed to do? Nothing Dc can do is going to change the fact that being outnumbered like they are in that screenshot is a regular thing, 7 people don't have a prayer of stopping a zerg of that size in the current state of this game.

    The only thing left is either some AD and EP start rolling DC toons or the game dies....thats all that "left" for any of us.

    DC was at 3 bars when this happened.

    oh i didn't know that...ouch....DC is still under poped, but if they ahd 3 bars on the campaign and things looked like that...i dunno what to say...this must have been after i logged...wow
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  • AhPook_Is_Here
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    They were prob all in the PVP server interface trying to figure out what server to run to next.
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  • RedTalon
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    Like I have been saying the elder scroll online pvp is going the way the secret world one did.

    But the truth is bugs still exist, and a lot more blue pvers are coming into the areas just to grind out chump points in dungeons
    Edited by RedTalon on May 29, 2015 1:07PM
  • RinaldoGandolphi
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    They were prob all in the PVP server interface trying to figure out what server to run to next.

    ahahaha...look at this....funny guy. :)

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  • Raizin
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    Soulac wrote: »
    Working as intended.

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  • Ahaek
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    Not true lol

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  • driosketch
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    The blues on Chill are generally not that organizied, and a lot of them seem pretty green when it come to PvP gameplay. I assume the strong DC guilds went to AS, not sure were they are now, and the remaining blues here must be mixed with left over PvE players from back when this was a buff campaign. And maybe that's what they're doing, off grinding a dungeon some where, because it seems like there's never more than 20 DC that show up to a fight even when we're locked. (One weekend we managed something like 100 DC together and rolled over the map, but that's not the norm.)
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  • Ezareth
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    Was trying to do some PvP on Chill last night as DC but it was just EP Zergball AP farming. Almost every fight that started even ended up with you getting zerged down other than your typical stealth gankers popping up and 1-shotting you from time to time.

    I just can't see how people enjoy farming AP day after day...there is no challenge to it. My own guild does it which is why I no longer even do large groups, it's not about where the best fights are, it's where the most AP can be had by farming unorganized bads and zerging down everyone else. I guess some people like that but before long it's just going to be them and no one else.
    Edited by Ezareth on May 29, 2015 2:49PM
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  • bosmern_ESO
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    You can't blame the game for something that is caused by players.

    maybe you should tell DC to stop running to another server every time they loose Aleswell/Ash, they're like little kids that sit there and laugh if they steal something from you but cry if you take it back.
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  • driosketch
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    You can't blame the game for something that is caused by players.

    maybe you should tell DC to stop running to another server every time they loose Aleswell/Ash, they're like little kids that sit there and laugh if they steal something from you but cry if you take it back.
    I think some of you are confusing the DC on Chill with the ones who jump ship from Thorn and other campaigns. The DC on Chill seems to be a different set of players, with the occasional visitors. Which is why it's always high pop/locked for DC. Maybe ask AD why they abandoned Chill.
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  • FENGRUSH
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    Ezareth wrote: »
    Was trying to do some PvP on Chill last night as DC but it was just EP Zergball AP farming. Almost every fight that started even ended up with you getting zerged down other than your typical stealth gankers popping up and 1-shotting you from time to time.

    I just can't see how people enjoy farming AP day after day...there is no challenge to it. My own guild does it which is why I no longer even do large groups, it's not about where the best fights are, it's where the most AP can be had by farming unorganized bads and zerging down everyone else. I guess some people like that but before long it's just going to be them and no one else.

    Pretty much this. Plenty of players that wont even enter Cyrodiil without a group of 20+. Considering the stability of servers for groups of this size clashing, there isnt much interest from FENGRUSH is organizing 20+ DC guys to slam into these messes and watch the server suffer then blame ZOS because the game doesnt work "when playing the way its meant to be played".

    Meanwhile these raid-size only group players will come complain about players jumping ship. If you want to continue fights on whatever server youre at - you should do more to keep them interesting. DC is an underpopulated faction in a big way right now, and theres a fair amount of the limited pool of better players that have no interest in forming max size raids to hug crown for PvP.
  • RinaldoGandolphi
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    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    Ezareth wrote: »
    Was trying to do some PvP on Chill last night as DC but it was just EP Zergball AP farming. Almost every fight that started even ended up with you getting zerged down other than your typical stealth gankers popping up and 1-shotting you from time to time.

    I just can't see how people enjoy farming AP day after day...there is no challenge to it. My own guild does it which is why I no longer even do large groups, it's not about where the best fights are, it's where the most AP can be had by farming unorganized bads and zerging down everyone else. I guess some people like that but before long it's just going to be them and no one else.

    Pretty much this. Plenty of players that wont even enter Cyrodiil without a group of 20+. Considering the stability of servers for groups of this size clashing, there isnt much interest from FENGRUSH is organizing 20+ DC guys to slam into these messes and watch the server suffer then blame ZOS because the game doesnt work "when playing the way its meant to be played".

    Meanwhile these raid-size only group players will come complain about players jumping ship. If you want to continue fights on whatever server youre at - you should do more to keep them interesting. DC is an underpopulated faction in a big way right now, and theres a fair amount of the limited pool of better players that have no interest in forming max size raids to hug crown for PvP.

    Agreed

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  • GorraShatan
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    Some people have flipped over to DC on non-vet PvP in NA and DC is currently has an edge on the other factions there. Hopefully when these players vet out some of them will stick with DC for vet PvP? In the mean time come join us in Blackwater! It's awesome and well balanced and fun!
  • Ezareth
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    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    Ezareth wrote: »
    Was trying to do some PvP on Chill last night as DC but it was just EP Zergball AP farming. Almost every fight that started even ended up with you getting zerged down other than your typical stealth gankers popping up and 1-shotting you from time to time.

    I just can't see how people enjoy farming AP day after day...there is no challenge to it. My own guild does it which is why I no longer even do large groups, it's not about where the best fights are, it's where the most AP can be had by farming unorganized bads and zerging down everyone else. I guess some people like that but before long it's just going to be them and no one else.

    Pretty much this. Plenty of players that wont even enter Cyrodiil without a group of 20+. Considering the stability of servers for groups of this size clashing, there isnt much interest from FENGRUSH is organizing 20+ DC guys to slam into these messes and watch the server suffer then blame ZOS because the game doesnt work "when playing the way its meant to be played".

    Meanwhile these raid-size only group players will come complain about players jumping ship. If you want to continue fights on whatever server youre at - you should do more to keep them interesting. DC is an underpopulated faction in a big way right now, and theres a fair amount of the limited pool of better players that have no interest in forming max size raids to hug crown for PvP.

    Yeah when zergballs clash, lag becomes intolerable and I either find another campaign to play on or just log off.

    It doesn't even matter how good you are either. Half the things in the game just start breaking. Last night I got hit by invasion at 100% stamina, couldn't break free and just got whip-spammed to death. I kept randomly getting thrown into combat between keeps so I ended up having to *run* to battles instead of using a horse.

    I don't know, maybe the game has always been this way and my tolerance and patience for bugs have just run out. At some point everyone's patience is going to run out.
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  • FENGRUSH
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    Ezareth wrote: »
    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    Ezareth wrote: »
    Was trying to do some PvP on Chill last night as DC but it was just EP Zergball AP farming. Almost every fight that started even ended up with you getting zerged down other than your typical stealth gankers popping up and 1-shotting you from time to time.

    I just can't see how people enjoy farming AP day after day...there is no challenge to it. My own guild does it which is why I no longer even do large groups, it's not about where the best fights are, it's where the most AP can be had by farming unorganized bads and zerging down everyone else. I guess some people like that but before long it's just going to be them and no one else.

    Pretty much this. Plenty of players that wont even enter Cyrodiil without a group of 20+. Considering the stability of servers for groups of this size clashing, there isnt much interest from FENGRUSH is organizing 20+ DC guys to slam into these messes and watch the server suffer then blame ZOS because the game doesnt work "when playing the way its meant to be played".

    Meanwhile these raid-size only group players will come complain about players jumping ship. If you want to continue fights on whatever server youre at - you should do more to keep them interesting. DC is an underpopulated faction in a big way right now, and theres a fair amount of the limited pool of better players that have no interest in forming max size raids to hug crown for PvP.

    Yeah when zergballs clash, lag becomes intolerable and I either find another campaign to play on or just log off.

    It doesn't even matter how good you are either. Half the things in the game just start breaking. Last night I got hit by invasion at 100% stamina, couldn't break free and just got whip-spammed to death. I kept randomly getting thrown into combat between keeps so I ended up having to *run* to battles instead of using a horse.

    I don't know, maybe the game has always been this way and my tolerance and patience for bugs have just run out. At some point everyone's patience is going to run out.

    Same thing. Lag kicks up and a fragment hits FENGRUSH as hes exiting a roll. Clearly everything jumps out of sync and using skills reliably and skillfully becomes impossible.
  • Zhoyzu
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    Ill Roll DC as soon as veteran ranks are removed. like hell id grind through that crap any longer.
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  • Darklord_Tiberius
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    If the enemy wants to try and farm you at your gate, shoot them with siege and stack that Temple tick lol. We did it on Wabba cycle one when Hammersticks was still playing on DC. Use to get massive D ticks.
  • EIGHTS
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    There is a strange thing in PvP.
    When DC is population locked, we still can't find enough people to fight or defend.
    Sometime EP has almost 100~150 at the same time. EP still has men to hit AD's Keeps.
    DC has only 40~50 people at most.

    I really don't know where are our men.

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    In this photo, there were 2 groups and each contains 20+ people.
    Each group carried one scroll and didn't go back EP's keep.
    They just want to farm the few remaining people.

    I remember there were some EP people at another scroll temple.
    So there were too many EP at the same time.

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    If this happen again and again, there will no DC player want to PvP.
    You can see that DC is few in every PvP server now.
    Only Chillrend has the most DC players.


    Edited by EIGHTS on May 30, 2015 10:54AM
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  • PeggymoeXD
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    There isn't a whole lot ZOS can do about population balance... But I agree in other ways PvP is broken.
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  • Joy_Division
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    ZoS needs to provide with effective tools to fight zergs. Whether they ask us nicely or we ask ourselves nicely, self-policing won't work.
    Make Rush of Agony "Monsters only." People should not be consecutively crowd controlled in a PvP setting. Period.
  • Valymer
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    Ezareth wrote: »
    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    Ezareth wrote: »
    Was trying to do some PvP on Chill last night as DC but it was just EP Zergball AP farming. Almost every fight that started even ended up with you getting zerged down other than your typical stealth gankers popping up and 1-shotting you from time to time.

    I just can't see how people enjoy farming AP day after day...there is no challenge to it. My own guild does it which is why I no longer even do large groups, it's not about where the best fights are, it's where the most AP can be had by farming unorganized bads and zerging down everyone else. I guess some people like that but before long it's just going to be them and no one else.

    Pretty much this. Plenty of players that wont even enter Cyrodiil without a group of 20+. Considering the stability of servers for groups of this size clashing, there isnt much interest from FENGRUSH is organizing 20+ DC guys to slam into these messes and watch the server suffer then blame ZOS because the game doesnt work "when playing the way its meant to be played".

    Meanwhile these raid-size only group players will come complain about players jumping ship. If you want to continue fights on whatever server youre at - you should do more to keep them interesting. DC is an underpopulated faction in a big way right now, and theres a fair amount of the limited pool of better players that have no interest in forming max size raids to hug crown for PvP.

    Yeah when zergballs clash, lag becomes intolerable and I either find another campaign to play on or just log off.

    It doesn't even matter how good you are either. Half the things in the game just start breaking. Last night I got hit by invasion at 100% stamina, couldn't break free and just got whip-spammed to death. I kept randomly getting thrown into combat between keeps so I ended up having to *run* to battles instead of using a horse.

    I don't know, maybe the game has always been this way and my tolerance and patience for bugs have just run out. At some point everyone's patience is going to run out.

    It's killing PvP and by extension, probably the game. If it is like this on console, ESO is done.

    But anytime small-scale PvP is brought up, so many Cyrodiil fanbois rail against it because reasons.

    Pathetic.
  • Teargrants
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    ZOS still can't fix their mobile forum, and you expect them to fix PvP?
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  • Wycks
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    > here is a strange thing in PvP. When DC is population locked, we still can't find enough people to fight or defend.
    Sometime EP has almost 100~150 at the same time. EP still has men to hit AD's Keeps.
    DC has only 40~50 people at most.

    I've seen this as well on DC, server has a queue but no one is on it, EP outnumber 4-1, something is wrong.

    The biggest deal breaker right now is the lag, it's ridiculous they can't figure out the problem after months and it seems to get worse. Firor and the programming leads should by awake at night trying to fix this or at least be honest about the capabilities of the game engine and coming up with real solutions (dolmans is a sad joke). Their reputation is still in the toilet.
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  • RinaldoGandolphi
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    What they need to do us put in dynamic pop caps.

    I dont care if they have to make more campaigns, if DC only has 30 players online in a campaign, the EP and AD should be locked the same within 2 players plus or minus.

    End this zerg nonsense of just running over everything on the map with more numbers.

    I'll take 10 dynamic pop campaigns with equal numbers any day over the garbage we are currently stuck with.
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  • cozmon3c_ESO
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    as soon as the big red zergs start up and lag out the server i log off, no point in raging anymore because crap doesnt work in lag situations. my patience is wearing extremely thin, im just hoping for a good fix in this next big update for pvp. if not then im done playing pretty much. i have better things to do then be frustrated and angry because the games broken. i really have high hopes for this game but these last 5 months have really really really made my expectations for the future of ESO not a bright one.
    Guild UMBRA Chapter Lead
    ~Leper Si -V14 Sorcerer~
    Youtube Channel - Leper
    https://www.youtube.com/user/TheCozmon3c/videos
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