Troll guilds claiming keeps.

filmoretub17_ESO · May 2015

I know its funny to have a troll name on a keep but they need to make it so you must have at least 100 members to claim a keep. Anything is better then how it is right now.

Maulkin · May 2015

filmoretub17_ESO wrote: »

I know its funny to have a troll name on a keep but they need to make it so you must have at least 100 members to claim a keep. Anything is better then how it is right now.

Over-reaction much? What's the problem here, is it ruining your immurtion or sth?

Why should it be 100, does it take 100 players to take a keep? If a guild of 7 people capture a keep, should they not be able to claim it?

Is that too many rhetorical questions?

manny254 · May 2015

filmoretub17_ESO wrote: »

I know its funny to have a troll name on a keep but they need to make it so you must have at least 100 members to claim a keep. Anything is better then how it is right now.

This makes an assumption that guilds with under 100 ppl are not real guilds. I hate to break it to you, but my only guilds with 100+ ppl are trade guilds.

Minnesinger · May 2015

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

filmoretub17_ESO wrote: »

I know its funny to have a troll name on a keep but they need to make it so you must have at least 100 members to claim a keep. Anything is better then how it is right now.

Over-reaction much? What's the problem here, is it ruining you immurtion or sth?

Why should it be 100, does it take 100 players to take a keep? If a guild of 7 people capture a keep, should not they not be able to claim it?

Is that too many rhetorical questions?

I have one more question. What the heck is immurtion? Otherwise I agree with everything you said.

filmoretub17_ESO · May 2015

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

filmoretub17_ESO wrote: »

I know its funny to have a troll name on a keep but they need to make it so you must have at least 100 members to claim a keep. Anything is better then how it is right now.

Over-reaction much? What's the problem here, is it ruining you immurtion or sth?

Why should it be 100, does it take 100 players to take a keep? If a guild of 7 people capture a keep, should not they not be able to claim it?

Is that too many rhetorical questions?

So for the best of the game lets continue to allow small 5 man guilds to claim keeps under their banner and sell nothing in the guild store and do absolutely nothing to help the faction. Yes this makes much more sense now. We are at war and only those who are capable of fighting the real war should be the ones capable of supplying the soldiers with items for sale. It doesn't have to be 100 use a little common sense here.

mikethecoder4ub17_ESO · May 2015

There are so many other problems with this game that this non-issue needs to be ignored in my opinion. Not sure why it makese you so upset, but deal with it? It's not really that big of an issue (and imo, not an issue at all) and there are much more important things for ZOS to focus on.

Weberda · May 2015

Keep names have traditionally been the billboards of Cyrodiil. They provide important political, social, and comedic commentary on life in AvAvA. Often times their "statements" are a lot better than the junk in zone chat.

Maulkin · May 2015

Minnesinger wrote: »

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

filmoretub17_ESO wrote: »

I know its funny to have a troll name on a keep but they need to make it so you must have at least 100 members to claim a keep. Anything is better then how it is right now.

Over-reaction much? What's the problem here, is it ruining you immurtion or sth?

Why should it be 100, does it take 100 players to take a keep? If a guild of 7 people capture a keep, should not they not be able to claim it?

Is that too many rhetorical questions?

I have one more question. What the heck is immurtion? Otherwise I agree with everything you said.

Immurtion is a joke pronunciation of immersion. Like ermahgerd is a joke pronunciation of "oh my god". Jeez get on with times old man

filmoretub17_ESO · May 2015

Weberda wrote: »

Keep names have traditionally been the billboards of Cyrodiil. They provide important political, social, and comedic commentary on life in AvAvA. Often times their "statements" are a lot better than the junk in zone chat.

I just get tired of leaving cyrodiil every time I need to buy food or potions. You know the guild stores in cyrodiil don't sell anything so you don't even bother.

Weberda · May 2015

filmoretub17_ESO wrote: »

Weberda wrote: »

Keep names have traditionally been the billboards of Cyrodiil. They provide important political, social, and comedic commentary on life in AvAvA. Often times their "statements" are a lot better than the junk in zone chat.

I just get tired of leaving cyrodiil every time I need to buy food or potions. You know the guild stores in cyrodiil don't sell anything so you don't even bother.

I know that your guild store is accessible if your guild owns the keep. I've never actually tried to use one as I'm usually busy trying to defend the keep from banana blobs.

manny254 · May 2015

filmoretub17_ESO wrote: »

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

filmoretub17_ESO wrote: »

I know its funny to have a troll name on a keep but they need to make it so you must have at least 100 members to claim a keep. Anything is better then how it is right now.

Over-reaction much? What's the problem here, is it ruining you immurtion or sth?

Why should it be 100, does it take 100 players to take a keep? If a guild of 7 people capture a keep, should not they not be able to claim it?

Is that too many rhetorical questions?

So for the best of the game lets continue to allow small 5 man guilds to claim keeps under their banner and sell nothing in the guild store and do absolutely nothing to help the faction. Yes this makes much more sense now. We are at war and only those who are capable of fighting the real war should be the ones capable of supplying the soldiers with items for sale. It doesn't have to be 100 use a little common sense here.

Good small and medium groups can be what allows a faction to advance up the map. They need larger forces supporting them, but they can make a world of difference.

Here is an example of something I did with 7 ppl on Chillrend when the map was covered with large groups.

EP controlled Castle Alessia and AD was fighting to get it back. We went and tore down the outer wall at BRK to cut off red reinforcements, and timed the keep flagging perfectly with Alessia. We stayed in the tower, and kept the breach tagged long enough for AD to capture Alessia and SEJ. Then by the time we wiped yellow was able to reinforce us and capture BRK with the downed outer we provided them. When AD pushed Arrius we did the same thing at Farrugut.

So I am pretty sure we contributed to our faction, and we where "Capable of fighting the real war."

Maulkin · May 2015

filmoretub17_ESO wrote: »

Weberda wrote: »

Keep names have traditionally been the billboards of Cyrodiil. They provide important political, social, and comedic commentary on life in AvAvA. Often times their "statements" are a lot better than the junk in zone chat.

I just get tired of leaving cyrodiil every time I need to buy food or potions. You know the guild stores in cyrodiil don't sell anything so you don't even bother.

The real solution to that is to add some biddable traders in Cyrodiil.

The whole idea of traders only in the keeps has completely failed. PvP guilds fight over and claim keeps and they hardly ever sell stuff.

Also real merchant guilds prefer to have a constant trader somewhere so people know where to find them week-in, week-out. The Cyrodiil keep trader that you can lose an hour after claiming it means nothing to serious merchant guilds.

The keep that I won over fighting with my mates, I will claim it and I don't really care if you want to sell potions on the merchant or not. No matter how harsh it sounds.

Teargrants · May 2015

OP, only making the limit 100 members? Pft, we all know it should be 500.

Talcyndl · May 2015

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

The real solution to that is to add some biddable traders in Cyrodiil.

Agreed.

Xendyn · May 2015

Talcyndl wrote: »

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

The real solution to that is to add some biddable traders in Cyrodiil.

Agreed.

Times 2
I wouldn't think it would be that hard to put a couple of biddable traders at each spawn gate.

r.jan_emailb16_ESO · May 2015

I find the troll guilds have some really hillarious names, I want more not less

filmoretub17_ESO · May 2015

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

filmoretub17_ESO wrote: »

Weberda wrote: »

Keep names have traditionally been the billboards of Cyrodiil. They provide important political, social, and comedic commentary on life in AvAvA. Often times their "statements" are a lot better than the junk in zone chat.

I just get tired of leaving cyrodiil every time I need to buy food or potions. You know the guild stores in cyrodiil don't sell anything so you don't even bother.

The real solution to that is to add some biddable traders in Cyrodiil.

The whole idea of traders only in the keeps has completely failed. PvP guilds fight over and claim keeps and they hardly ever sell stuff.

Also real merchant guilds prefer to have a constant trader somewhere so people know where to find them week-in, week-out. The Cyrodiil keep trader that you can lose an hour after claiming it means nothing to serious merchant guilds.

The keep that I won over fighting with my mates, I will claim it and I don't really care if you want to sell potions on the merchant or not. No matter how harsh it sounds.

The idea failed very harshly. People use as a means to advertise their guild name or troll. As you can see looking at the map most of the guilds are troll guilds making false claims. It would be kinda cool if they made the actual guild stores at the keeps sold to highest bidder and the keep names could be claimed by the players like it is. How keeps are claimed is a different beast entirely since any pug can walk up and claim a keep he had nothing to contribute.

Draxys · May 2015

Lawl

Just deal with it like the rest of us. Buy more than one stack of potions and 10 food/drink at a time. Problem solved.

And I sure as hell hope you aren't insinuating that the ones who contribute the most to the "war" are large guilds like the glorified pug groups and trade guilds. Often, they are doing more to kill PvP by perpetuating buff servers than help it.

Also, sometimes a well timed/placed troll guild is an excellent way to send a message to an opposing faction. It can be for more than just giggles.

filmoretub17_ESO · May 2015

Draxys wrote: »

Lawl

Just deal with it like the rest of us. Buy more than one stack of potions and 10 food/drink at a time. Problem solved.

And I sure as hell hope you aren't insinuating that the ones who contribute the most to the "war" are large guilds like the glorified pug groups and trade guilds. Often, they are doing more to kill PvP by perpetuating buff servers than help it.

Also, sometimes a well timed/placed troll guild is an excellent way to send a message to an opposing faction. It can be for more than just giggles.

Yea don't fix things that are broken makes perfect sense. Oh wait no it doesn't.

Varicite · May 2015

filmoretub17_ESO wrote: »

Weberda wrote: »

Keep names have traditionally been the billboards of Cyrodiil. They provide important political, social, and comedic commentary on life in AvAvA. Often times their "statements" are a lot better than the junk in zone chat.

I just get tired of leaving cyrodiil every time I need to buy food or potions. You know the guild stores in cyrodiil don't sell anything so you don't even bother.

Wow, I didn't know anybody actually used the guild stores in Cyro. Guess you learn something new every day.

Bodycounter · May 2015

Im starting to hate this community. For every good thread, ten stupid threads (yeah, like this one) packed with nonsense exist. Just delete every account, that plays less than four hours a day and delete every guild with less than 200+ members, because *** casual players, that want to achieve anything in this game.

Oh wait, i have a better idea: Pay 500 crowns to buy a flag and only with this flag you can name a keep. But it's B2P, so you can buy this flag for 100.000 AP, so you can "decide", if it's worth.

Huntler · May 2015

Bodycounter wrote: »

Im starting to hate this community. For every good thread, ten stupid threads (yeah, like this one) packed with nonsense exist. Just delete every account, that plays less than four hours a day and delete every guild with less than 200+ members, because *** casual players, that want to achieve anything in this game.

Oh wait, i have a better idea: Pay 500 crowns to buy a flag and only with this flag you can name a keep. But it's B2P, so you can buy this flag for 100.000 AP, so you can "decide", if it's worth.

Hehe, I like you. But lets be real here... it would cost at least 2500 crowns.

RinaldoGandolphi · May 2015

I think so the guild names are kinda funny to be honest with you. Gotta give props for some very creative and funny names i have saw.

Maulkin · May 2015

You got life insurance @redtalon ?

Manoekin · May 2015

filmoretub17_ESO wrote: »

Draxys wrote: »

Lawl

Just deal with it like the rest of us. Buy more than one stack of potions and 10 food/drink at a time. Problem solved.

And I sure as hell hope you aren't insinuating that the ones who contribute the most to the "war" are large guilds like the glorified pug groups and trade guilds. Often, they are doing more to kill PvP by perpetuating buff servers than help it.

Also, sometimes a well timed/placed troll guild is an excellent way to send a message to an opposing faction. It can be for more than just giggles.

Yea don't fix things that are broken makes perfect sense. Oh wait no it doesn't.

It's not broken. You can buy almost anything you want in zone chat anyway, but even then... if you have a guild that sells good stuff just go to a random resource, claim it, buy what you need, and be on with your life. You don't have to claim a keep in order to get your guild store in cyrodiil.

filmoretub17_ESO · May 2015

Huntler wrote: »

filmoretub17_ESO wrote: »

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

filmoretub17_ESO wrote: »

I know its funny to have a troll name on a keep but they need to make it so you must have at least 100 members to claim a keep. Anything is better then how it is right now.

Over-reaction much? What's the problem here, is it ruining you immurtion or sth?

Why should it be 100, does it take 100 players to take a keep? If a guild of 7 people capture a keep, should not they not be able to claim it?

Is that too many rhetorical questions?

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I don't understand how you fail to see that a small 5 man guild who sells nothing in the guild store is a waste of time. In your eyes it is somehow better then a 100 man guild who has tons of items for sale. IDk why you think this has anything to do with being self entitled when I have wrote several times it is about trolling and stopping a real contribution to the campaign by allowing people to buy stuff from guild stores. You cant buy anything from a 5 person guild store because they don't sell anything. I hope that clears up all the big words I must have been using before. Oh and take your 7 man group and I will paste the floor with them with any full raid in a guild. Matter of fact take 10x7 man groups and watch them all die to 1 organized full raid. So glad to clear some things up for you.

[Moderator Note: Edited quote to match moderated version]

ArcanusMagus · May 2015

AD is Free AP
DC is Free AP

Best guilds ever.

sKorcheD · May 2015

filmoretub17_ESO wrote: »

Huntler wrote: »

filmoretub17_ESO wrote: »

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

filmoretub17_ESO wrote: »

I know its funny to have a troll name on a keep but they need to make it so you must have at least 100 members to claim a keep. Anything is better then how it is right now.

Over-reaction much? What's the problem here, is it ruining you immurtion or sth?

Why should it be 100, does it take 100 players to take a keep? If a guild of 7 people capture a keep, should not they not be able to claim it?

Is that too many rhetorical questions?

So for the best of the game lets continue to allow small 5 man guilds to claim keeps under their banner and sell nothing in the guild store and do absolutely nothing to help the faction. Yes this makes much more sense now. We are at war and only those who are capable of fighting the real war should be the ones capable of supplying the soldiers with items for sale. It doesn't have to be 100 use a little common sense here.

[...]

I don't understand how you fail to see that a small 5 man guild who sells nothing in the guild store is a waste of time. In your eyes it is somehow better then a 100 man guild who has tons of items for sale. IDk why you think this has anything to do with being self entitled when I have wrote several times it is about trolling and stopping a real contribution to the campaign by allowing people to buy stuff from guild stores. You cant buy anything from a 5 person guild store because they don't sell anything. I hope that clears up all the big words I must have been using before. Oh and take your 7 man group and I will paste the floor with them with any full raid in a guild. Matter of fact take 10x7 man groups and watch them all die to 1 organized full raid. So glad to clear some things up for you.

This ^^^ right here, is why we need a LOL button. ZoS get on that!

[Moderator Note: Edited quote to match moderated version]

Draxys · May 2015

If you think claiming a keep should solely be for selling crap, just do everyone a favor and go ahead and zone out of Cyrodiil and don't come back.

tonemd · May 2015

A lot of troll guilds are butt hurt in this thread. The OP's point is that the guild stores in Cyro are useless because children make troll guilds and claim keeps just to troll. It may not be the biggest priority but it IS annoying.

Sometimes you run out of ***. Again, not a big deal but not pointless. Most of ya'll just jumped to "Oh, so my 5 man ERP guild is not a real guild? *** you, we just took Brindle lumber mill!"

Slurg · May 2015

I always thought it was strange that I could fast travel to a nice quiet keep, walk up to a guy and claim it for my trade guild, and then stroll out of the keep to go about my solo PVE questing, without having done a single thing in combat for ownership of said keep.

I suspect the players in the troll name guilds claiming them now did a whole lot more to deserve that claim than I ever did.

I like the idea of putting a biddable guild trader by the way shrines in the faction areas.