To Zenimax: Veteran LFG Chat SPAM in Grahtwood

moXrox · May 2015

Veteran LGF Chat SPAM in Grahtwood

Higher Veteran Players are litteraly spamming the Grahtwood area chat with group search/LFG for dungeons

This is worse than any gold seller spam I saw around a year ago - this is just SPAM.

It is that bad that you cant even have a normal conversation with players at your own level in Grahtwood, almost every second a new chat line pops and people LFG

This is not acceptable if you enter Grahtwood and you cant even have a conversation in this area with people who are leveling in Grahtwood and doing quests.

If you ask them why they dont use the group search tool, they say it does not work or nobody is using it.

So what is the issue here, because people are not using it or does it not work for veteran players ?

This issue needs a solution, please ZOS have a look here.

Rosveen · May 2015

It isn't restricted to Grahtwood, it happens in all three alliance capital zones because that's where the Undaunted Enclaves are located. At this point it doesn't make any difference why the LFG tool doesn't work, we've been grouping via zone chat for months and it's not going to change unless ZOS adds some real incentive to use the tool (and the tool works flawlessly, but this goes without saying). I apologize for the annoyance, but we aren't spamming the chat out of malice towards lower level players, it's just the only way to PUG pledges. We can't help that ZOS put the Enclaves where they are.

Mishanya · May 2015

moXrox wrote: »

Veteran LGF Chat SPAM in Grahtwood

it not work for veteran player

This.

You can't choose what level you want to pick up there, so group tool will pick up all vets together. In this way VR12+ will have low level loot, and VR1+ will have no loot at all.

So this is mostly unnacceptable for VR12+, because most of them visits dailies for loot, though some low vets visits it for experience mostly, because low vet loot are usable for pair of levels and then goes for deconstruct, but as most players gave up for group tool long time ago, so nobody just use it.

Iselin · May 2015

It'll be interesting to see how this works for the no text chat console version... I foresee a lot of group dropping when you end up with a range of players from VR1 to VR14 being grouped together by the LFG tool.

UrQuan · May 2015

moXrox wrote: »

[If you ask them why they dont use the group search tool, they say it does not work or nobody is using it.

So what is the issue here, because people are not using it or does it not work for veteran players ?

Both. It doesn't work properly and people aren't using it because it doesn't work properly.

For an AD player, the only way to reliably get a PUG for pledges (either the non-vet pledge or the vet pledge) is to post LFG in /zone in Grahtwood. It has to be Grahtwood because that's where the AD Undaunted Enclave is, so that's where all AD players have to go to pick up the pledge.

I mean, you could grab the pledge and then go to one of the Cadwell's Silver or Gold zones (one that's appropriate for your VR level), but you're much much less likely to be able to form a group that way, because the people interested in doing the pledges are going to Grahtwood to pick them up. The population in the Silver and Gold zones is smaller to begin with, and the vast majority of the people there are busy questing or grinding in order to level up, so they're unlikely to be interested in joining a PUG for a pledge.

ItsRejectz · May 2015

They should give LFG its own channel

Valymer · May 2015

ItsRejectz wrote: »

They should give LFG its own channel

They should allow us to create custom chat channels like a 2015 MMORPG

Moonshadow66 · May 2015

I'm not sure if this occurs in all 3 Grahtwood instances (low level, Silver, Gold), but if you mean Silver, I can definitely confirm this is true. I'm in Grahtwood since 2 days with my DC char, and the chat gets spammed with this, more than in other zones, of what I've seen (I don't always have the Zone Chat tab open).

Moonshadow66 · May 2015

ItsRejectz wrote: »

They should give LFG its own channel

Great idea, this would help us all a lot! The ones which are actually searching, and the others which want to chat.

newtinmpls · May 2015

Wasn't there something on another thread about the next hotfix/update will remove the restrictions on "be within X level to get loot" for the grouping for vet levels only?

UrQuan · May 2015

newtinmpls wrote: »

Wasn't there something on another thread about the next hotfix/update will remove the restrictions on "be within X level to get loot" for the grouping for vet levels only?

I've heard that too (and a few of us in my guild were discussing it last night), but now I'm unsure what the source of that was. It sure would go a long way towards making grouping for vet dungeons easier.

King Bozo · May 2015

There are other zones for you to play in if it really bugs you that much. This is were people group to do undaunted so they can get there undaunted passive open perhaps. You can always turn off your chat box and you don't have to see anything which is a easy fix for you.

Mashille · May 2015

...Chat Filter...

Ley · May 2015

It would really make grouping much easier if the LFG tool allowed cross faction grouping.

Yolokin_Swagonborn · May 2015

Ley wrote: »

It would really make grouping much easier if the LFG tool allowed cross faction grouping.

Cross faction grouping, a LFG/Dungeon channel or persistent queue has been needed since day 1. But so has a better guild system, a better trade system, an improved and more rewarding loot system, PvP that works and templar abilities that aren't plagued with bugs and cooldowns.

But Cross faction grouping is probably "OMG so complicated" for the poor devs to wrap their heads around that implementing it would crash the entire game for a month, cause people to drop group through the floor of dungeons and end up in pvp where they would promptly lag and then die to a one-shot.

"Software is hard guiz! Let's give them another year to figure it out and implement basic functionality to the game."

StaticWax · May 2015

I vote to remove the chat window like the console version.

DaveMoeDee · May 2015

King Bozo wrote: »

There are other zones for you to play in if it really bugs you that much. This is were people group to do undaunted so they can get there undaunted passive open perhaps. You can always turn off your chat box and you don't have to see anything which is a easy fix for you.

I think the point of the OP is that he is questing at his current level and trying to have conversations in zone chat.

Personally, I don't care about zone chat, but it is ruined for those that do.

Iselin · May 2015

DaveMoeDee wrote: »

King Bozo wrote: »

There are other zones for you to play in if it really bugs you that much. This is were people group to do undaunted so they can get there undaunted passive open perhaps. You can always turn off your chat box and you don't have to see anything which is a easy fix for you.

I think the point of the OP is that he is questing at his current level and trying to have conversations in zone chat.

Personally, I don't care about zone chat, but it is ruined for those that do.

ironically, what's ruined is their own level-specific LFG spam... which they also use over the LFG tool just like everyone else

Epona222 · May 2015

Turn off zone chat

Iluvrien · May 2015

Iselin wrote: »

ironically, what's ruined is their own level-specific LFG spam... which they also use over the LFG tool just like everyone else

Not always. I have had some pretty good conversations in Zone at various points. It doesn't happen often as it tends to get eaten by WTS/WTB and LFG spam (especially in Deshaan) but it does happen... and the spam does make it less of a possibility.

I would like to see the addition of two channels, LFG (until they actually get an LFG tool worth looking at) and Trade. While I can understand why people might be against the inclusion of a trade channel (difficult to reach impulse buyers who might not have Trade open at that moment in time) I can't imagine that there is a good reason not to create a LFG channel... for now at least.

bosmern_ESO · May 2015

Can't wait to hear you complain when you get to Rawl'kha.

If you don't enjoy the community then turn off chat simply, or go to another Alliance.

Qyrk · May 2015

^ bosmern, you beat me to it!

Considering that OP is only in Grahtwood, I wonder how much of those WTB / WTS / WTT 'spam' (as he call it) will be of nuisance to him once he sets foot in Rawlkha. Yeesh.

Yolokin_Swagonborn · May 2015

Just change factions to Daggerfall Covenant OP. Our low level zones are nice and dead most of the time. Even the undaunted hubs are usually quiet and its impossible to find a group.

I have been in zone chat on my EP or AD toons and its like night and day. There are full on conversations and arguments going on all the time. Not so in DC, there's a little bit of chatter from time to time but its never constant.

want peace and quiet? Switch to DC!

SeptimusDova · May 2015

OMG Kitty Town !!! Now that's my kind of town!! You never know what is going to come across chat. Or what your going to see on Rawl'Kha Rock. I mean just Imagine 20 plus naked twerkers ,flutes,lutes and drums! I love that place. Dont change Kitty Town. The Khajiit had it right.. Location,Location,Location

Snit · May 2015

Yeah... you're going to love Rawl Kha

Turn off /z if it bothers you. Or set up separate windows, so you can easily separate /group, /guild and /tell into a more manageable format.

ADarklore · May 2015

Snit wrote: »

Or set up separate windows, so you can easily separate /group, /guild and /tell into a more manageable format.

This is one of the first things I did when I started playing, just created separate tabs to avoid the constant zone channel chatter.

ForTheRealm · May 2015

moXrox wrote: »

Veteran LGF Chat SPAM in Grahtwood

This is not acceptable if you enter Grahtwood and you cant even have a conversation in this area with people who are leveling in Grahtwood and doing quests.

This happens because those veterans wants to do quests too and have no tool to effectively group.
I am pretty sure everyone will agree, including those veterans, this issue needs a solution and ZoS should work on it. The simple one was already mentioned - a dedicated channel for LFG.

ZOS_GinaBruno · May 2015

newtinmpls wrote: »

Wasn't there something on another thread about the next hotfix/update will remove the restrictions on "be within X level to get loot" for the grouping for vet levels only?

Yep! You can find that post in full detail here. Basically, all Veteran players who are grouped for a dungeon will receive loot after we make this change (which we're still aiming to get in for our next incremental patch).

Robbmrp · May 2015

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

newtinmpls wrote: »

Wasn't there something on another thread about the next hotfix/update will remove the restrictions on "be within X level to get loot" for the grouping for vet levels only?

Yep! You can find that post in full detail here. Basically, all Veteran players who are grouped for a dungeon will receive loot after we make this change (which we're still aiming to get in for our next incremental patch).

Hello @ZOS_GinaBruno, you should also implement a LFG Channel as mentioned above. If there were a level requirement in the LFG tool that could be entered as well that would help that work better.

imperial · May 2015

Probably going to be put in stocks for this but hay *** here I go- I do agree the lfg thing don't work. Spent about an hour outside a group dungeon then put out a couple of texts saying looking for such n such group. Finally got a group. Also I've mostly soloed as I'm Billy no mates(just joined pvp/pve guild hope to be more social)but I ve liked to do my own thing and got fed up with peeps saying this is how you should play on a game that said at launch play the way you want. Any ways I go in a diversion- so back to topic- when running around questing and looking forward to the day I get r14 (r7 at mo) I like to see people asking for such n such class to join grp- makes me think for a few seconds hey I could join......then I plod on my way looking for that n npc I have to chat with/kill or other. However spam in any context other than monty python or my frying-pan/plate is wrong imo but what is a player to do if they want a group?

Mishanya · May 2015

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

newtinmpls wrote: »

Wasn't there something on another thread about the next hotfix/update will remove the restrictions on "be within X level to get loot" for the grouping for vet levels only?

Yep! You can find that post in full detail here. Basically, all Veteran players who are grouped for a dungeon will receive loot after we make this change (which we're still aiming to get in for our next incremental patch).

As I understand, everyone will have loot of instance level, so if dungeon, for example, scaled to VR6, then everybody will have VR6, and this is still not much interested for VR12+, since they visit dungeons to farm items and monster sets items particularly.

Therefore, this decision will solve problem partly, VR12+ will still spam zonechat that way.