I can't wait for Console!

BrassRazoo · May 2015

I think getting hit five times in two seconds from the same guy is wearing kind of thin.
PC this, PC that, I'm willing to do without add-ons and Zone Spam for a more secure and even playground.

Yes. I died in PvP.

nastuug · May 2015

BrassRazoo wrote: »

I think getting hit five times in two seconds from the same guy is wearing kind of thin.
PC this, PC that, I'm willing to do without add-ons and Zone Spam for a more secure and even playground.

Yes. I died in PvP.

"...more secure and even playground." Oh boy, are you in for a lovely surprise.

NewBlacksmurf · May 2015

I'm with you BrassRazoo. Don't mind nastuug he's just picking at ya

nastuug · May 2015

He's right. I have a pessimistic view of console gaming overall in today's world. But these PC xfer's of all their VR14's, gold, and items doesn't sound like it's going to create much of a fair and balanced environment...

technohic · May 2015

Fair exists about as much as Sasquatch. My renewed interest in console will be that it is controlled differently with the UI for a game pad and maybe therefor will be a bit smoother in weapon swaps and ability firing. I didn't get to test it though to know, and I'm not betting on it either.

freespirit · May 2015

nastuug wrote: »

He's right. I have a pessimistic view of console gaming overall in today's world. But these PC xfer's of all their VR14's, gold, and items doesn't sound like it's going to create much of a fair and balanced environment...

Have to agree with this I'm afraid.....

and to play Devil's Advocate here........

@BrassRazoo, what if the guy who just killed you has brought a transfer?

Sallington · May 2015

BrassRazoo wrote: »

I think getting hit five times in two seconds from the same guy is wearing kind of thin.
PC this, PC that, I'm willing to do without add-ons and Zone Spam for a more secure and even playground.

Yes. I died in PvP.

What does this even mean?

NewBlacksmurf · May 2015

freespirit wrote: »

nastuug wrote: »

He's right. I have a pessimistic view of console gaming overall in today's world. But these PC xfer's of all their VR14's, gold, and items doesn't sound like it's going to create much of a fair and balanced environment...

Have to agree with this I'm afraid.....

and to play Devil's Advocate here........

@BrassRazoo, what if the guy who just killed you has brought a transfer?

The thing about PvP is that anyone dies and character level is no content for skill.
Other than that, we are so separated by content and levels that ppl copying over Vr's only helps other VR folks or console only that speed through 50 levels....this is a good thing vs bad.

I don't see why there is any assumption otherwise

BrassRazoo · May 2015

Let's face it, in my experience, there is more wriggle room for a player to do strange shut on PC than there is on Console.
There is a lot of weird stuff going on right now in PvP that I suspect is due to Macros, Add-ons or something else that I don't see happening on Console.

nastuug · May 2015

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

freespirit wrote: »

nastuug wrote: »

He's right. I have a pessimistic view of console gaming overall in today's world. But these PC xfer's of all their VR14's, gold, and items doesn't sound like it's going to create much of a fair and balanced environment...

Have to agree with this I'm afraid.....

and to play Devil's Advocate here........

@BrassRazoo, what if the guy who just killed you has brought a transfer?

The thing about PvP is that anyone dies and character level is no content for skill.
Other than that, we are so separated by content and levels that ppl copying over Vr's only helps other VR folks or console only that speed through 50 levels....this is a good thing vs bad.

I don't see why there is any assumption otherwise

Massive amounts of gold to lock down trader locations
Ultimate supremacy in PVP due to VR and item quality gap
Large CP advantage on launch

Sallington · May 2015

BrassRazoo wrote: »

Let's face it, in my experience, there is more wriggle room for a player to do strange shut on PC than there is on Console.
There is a lot of weird stuff going on right now in PvP that I suspect is due to Macros, Add-ons or something else that I don't see happening on Console.

What weird stuff? Because I guarantee it's because of bugs and server lag.

Shunravi · May 2015

Same thing will happen on consoles, and people will ask how macros are possible on console, and people who understand the mechanics will say the same things they always have.

BrassRazoo · May 2015

Maybe it is lag, maybe it is bugs, maybe it's not.
Either way I look forward to combat without aids of any kind and that is what Console will deliver.

NewBlacksmurf · May 2015

nastuug wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

freespirit wrote: »

nastuug wrote: »

He's right. I have a pessimistic view of console gaming overall in today's world. But these PC xfer's of all their VR14's, gold, and items doesn't sound like it's going to create much of a fair and balanced environment...

Have to agree with this I'm afraid.....

and to play Devil's Advocate here........

@BrassRazoo, what if the guy who just killed you has brought a transfer?

The thing about PvP is that anyone dies and character level is no content for skill.
Other than that, we are so separated by content and levels that ppl copying over Vr's only helps other VR folks or console only that speed through 50 levels....this is a good thing vs bad.

I don't see why there is any assumption otherwise

Massive amounts of gold to lock down trader locations

Ultimate supremacy in PVP due to VR and item quality gap

Large CP advantage on launch

Don't use the PC experiences and assume they will move to console.
The trader locations and PvP or CP don't really amount to much in the grand scheme of things.

It's not them against all fresh console players. They are playing WITH others guys/gals

Heromofo · May 2015

I am really looking foward to the console release i was able to talk 7 people off the pc version and 23 from Destiny(old clan).
So i am looking foward to it alot playing with both crowds of peeps again in our own guild.
But i gotta say loving the look of the console side from beta its really well done.

I cant wait to play ma joker in green and purple on ma couch

Ps pc and console players should be working together here to make this a better game for all.

Pc players remember you may have beta tested the game for a year according to some but atleast you got to play it.
I have friends that pre ordered almost 2 years ago to this day at EB games for the console version announcement.
They were so upset when it was delayed 6 months then they gave up when told another 6 months before they could play.

So you have to wait a little for content while they fix their promise to the console players its ok.

Shunravi · May 2015

Why do people keep saying 'on my couch' as if it's some exclusive thing for consoles?

Heromofo · May 2015

Shunravi wrote: »

Why do people keep saying 'on my couch' as if it's some exclusive thing for consoles?

No idea i play all my consoles and Tower from a 70 inch tv on my lazy boy.

I dont think anyone should dismiss playing this way its really comfy.

Shunravi · May 2015

Heromofo wrote: »

Shunravi wrote: »

Why do people keep saying 'on my couch' as if it's some exclusive thing for consoles?

No idea i play all my consoles and Tower from a 70 inch tv on my lazy boy.

I dont think anyone should dismiss playing this way its really comfy.

It very much is. I luvs mah couch.

Heromofo · May 2015

Shunravi wrote: »

Heromofo wrote: »

Shunravi wrote: »

Why do people keep saying 'on my couch' as if it's some exclusive thing for consoles?

No idea i play all my consoles and Tower from a 70 inch tv on my lazy boy.

I dont think anyone should dismiss playing this way its really comfy.

It very much is. I luvs mah couch.

Yeah i tried multiple screens back when i had a separate study room and i really did not like it for gaming.
After i moved it all on one room onto my tv and I cannot go back and urge all pc gamers to try the couch style.

You can also order sliding tables for both left and right arms.

Zhoyzu · May 2015

Im excited too to be honest. ZoS might actually get around to fixing their $#!7.

Nah, they'll just let console fall into the same state of disrepair.

WTB TES:VI

NewBlacksmurf · May 2015

Shunravi wrote: »

Why do people keep saying 'on my couch' as if it's some exclusive thing for consoles?

Lol. It was a reference from ZOS in the April Twitch live when they addressed who they are marketing to for console and why text chat was not included.

Shunravi · May 2015

Heromofo wrote: »

Shunravi wrote: »

Heromofo wrote: »

Shunravi wrote: »

Why do people keep saying 'on my couch' as if it's some exclusive thing for consoles?

No idea i play all my consoles and Tower from a 70 inch tv on my lazy boy.

I dont think anyone should dismiss playing this way its really comfy.

It very much is. I luvs mah couch.

Yeah i tried multiple screens back when i had a separate study room and i really did not like it for gaming.
After i moved it all on one room onto my tv and I cannot go back and urge all pc gamers to try the couch style.

You can also order sliding tables for both left and right arms.

One of my favorite parts is reclining

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Shunravi wrote: »

Why do people keep saying 'on my couch' as if it's some exclusive thing for consoles?

Lol. It was a reference from ZOS in the April Twitch live when they addressed who they are marketing to for console and why text chat was not included.

Yea

stupid stereotypes for everything! Thanks ZOS.

RedTalon · May 2015

About the zone spam, you did hear how voice chat is being handled in pvp for consoles, might hear a 100 people at times in general voice in the game less you turn it off of-course...so the spam on that thing isn't going anywhere.

Has for fair and balance, even though don't own the bargain pc that is a console now a-days, a number of v 14s chars and some of are quite old and already very far in the champ system are switching to console, so not to sure about how fair and balance it will be at times, but hey we may get ballegrounds now

Shunravi · May 2015

RedTalon wrote: »

About the zone spam, you did hear how voice chat is being handled in pvp for consoles, might hear a 100 people at times in general voice in the game less you turn it off of-course...so the spam on that thing isn't going anywhere.

Has for fair and balance, even though don't own the bargain pc that is a console now a-days, a number of v 14s chars and some of are quite old and already very far in the champ system are switching to console, so not to sure about how fair and balance it will be at times, but hey we may get ballegrounds now

The voice only bit has me concerned....

NewBlacksmurf · May 2015

RedTalon wrote: »

About the zone spam, you did hear how voice chat is being handled in pvp for consoles, might hear a 100 people at times in general voice in the game less you turn it off of-course...so the spam on that thing isn't going anywhere.

Has for fair and balance, even though don't own the bargain pc that is a console now a-days, a number of v 14s chars and some of are quite old and already very far in the champ system are switching to console, so not to sure about how fair and balance it will be at times, but hey we may get ballegrounds now

Huh? That's not how it works at all.
There is no zone voice chat

Its proximity voice chat which is approx 20-25 yard radius
Otherwise it's group/raid chat which will max at 24 ppl.

Balance issues....those of is transferring over aren't playing alone, we are playing with others within the factions we choose. What is going on in ppl's minds?

RedTalon · May 2015

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

RedTalon wrote: »

About the zone spam, you did hear how voice chat is being handled in pvp for consoles, might hear a 100 people at times in general voice in the game less you turn it off of-course...so the spam on that thing isn't going anywhere.

Has for fair and balance, even though don't own the bargain pc that is a console now a-days, a number of v 14s chars and some of are quite old and already very far in the champ system are switching to console, so not to sure about how fair and balance it will be at times, but hey we may get ballegrounds now

Huh? That's not how it works at all.
There is no zone voice chat

Its proximity voice chat which is approx 20-25 yard radius
Otherwise it's group/raid chat which will max at 24 ppl.

I know that but but when you have 50-200 people around when sieging and defending a keep you will hear them at the same time It basically becomes a zone voice chat with how pvp works. Perhaps you should pvp more

-throws you a cookie and pats your head-

Shunravi · May 2015

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

RedTalon wrote: »

About the zone spam, you did hear how voice chat is being handled in pvp for consoles, might hear a 100 people at times in general voice in the game less you turn it off of-course...so the spam on that thing isn't going anywhere.

Has for fair and balance, even though don't own the bargain pc that is a console now a-days, a number of v 14s chars and some of are quite old and already very far in the champ system are switching to console, so not to sure about how fair and balance it will be at times, but hey we may get ballegrounds now

Huh? That's not how it works at all.
There is no zone voice chat

Its proximity voice chat which is approx 20-25 yard radius
Otherwise it's group/raid chat which will max at 24 ppl.

Balance issues....those of is transferring over aren't playing alone, we are playing with others within the factions we choose. What is going on in ppl's minds?

Have you seen a zerg?

Annyways, the balance concern is how much stronger transferred characters will be against native characters. Not against each other.

gard · May 2015

BrassRazoo wrote: »

I think getting hit five times in two seconds from the same guy is wearing kind of thin.
PC this, PC that, I'm willing to do without add-ons and Zone Spam for a more secure and even playground.

Yes. I died in PvP.

You don't think console has animation canceling?

RedTalon · May 2015

gard wrote: »

BrassRazoo wrote: »

I think getting hit five times in two seconds from the same guy is wearing kind of thin.
PC this, PC that, I'm willing to do without add-ons and Zone Spam for a more secure and even playground.

Yes. I died in PvP.

You don't think console has animation canceling?

Button mashing with how things are set up for gamepads can sometimes be a lot easier, won't have the marco problems pc do , but cancelling will still happen people are kidding themselves if they think it won't

NewBlacksmurf · May 2015

RedTalon wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

RedTalon wrote: »

About the zone spam, you did hear how voice chat is being handled in pvp for consoles, might hear a 100 people at times in general voice in the game less you turn it off of-course...so the spam on that thing isn't going anywhere.

Has for fair and balance, even though don't own the bargain pc that is a console now a-days, a number of v 14s chars and some of are quite old and already very far in the champ system are switching to console, so not to sure about how fair and balance it will be at times, but hey we may get ballegrounds now

Huh? That's not how it works at all.
There is no zone voice chat

Its proximity voice chat which is approx 20-25 yard radius
Otherwise it's group/raid chat which will max at 24 ppl.

I know that but but when you have 50-200 people around when sieging and defending a keep you will hear them at the same time It basically becomes a zone voice chat with how pvp works. Perhaps you should pvp more

-throws you a cookie and pats your head-

So again...that's not how it works.
In order to hear others
1 you have to have it turned on
2 they have to have their turned on
3 if you're in a raid you wouldn't have both on (accord to PS4 users, prix voice chat turns off and group becomes primary, same with guild chat)
4 you have to be within 20-25 yards of one another
5 the further you're away, the lower their voice is

Having played it myself....again, that's not how it works

vovus69 · May 2015

I also can't wait when they will push consoles out of the road and can do real stuff like DLC, solo zones and spellcrafting. They spent like half a year for nothing. Just hope they will milk enough money from console herd to make new content.