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I'm going to start with the fact that, even as much as I love the combat in this game, I'm taking a much needed break from Cyrodiil. The PvP is officially a wasteland in desperate need of ZOS' attention.This isn't me quitting the game, just addressing issues that ZOS need to fix asap or the decent players in the PvP community are all going to end up becoming fed up just like me.

The straw that broke the camel's back was when I was killed multiple times in the safety of an unsieged outpost my alliance owned. Several players were zapping through the tiny crack in the door that Zenimax will apparently never fix, and dumping oil on our transitus shrine. It's one thing to exploit and get inside of keeps, because why not cheat if there are obviously no consequences? But when you insist on greifing within our own keep, that's where I draw the line. I was absolutely livid when this happened. And one of the players was one I once respected as a very good player and also well-known here on the forums. I've said it once, and I'm going to say it again. The PvP community is going to be reduced to 13 year old children whose parent's bought them this game because they played skyrim at a friend's house once, if cheaters, exploiters, and harassers aren't taken care of. I have NEVER played a game where so much harassment by players and flat out cheating has been allowed for so long. I understand there may be grey areas, such as dragon leap, or why not bolt inside a keep if you can. But when a door is obviously supposed to be sealed, and players are deliberately glitching their way inside, that is flat out exploiting/cheating. There is no grey area there. And on top of that harassing players who are expecting to safely port in especially if the outpost is unflagged or not under siege is just plain scummy. What is the point of defending an outpost anybody can glitch their way into. There isn't one.

Of course this isn't the first case I've seen this happen, and at this rate, it definitely won't be the last. I'm sure once this door issue is fixed, all of the players who have most likely been reported for taking part, will still be running around finding ways to infect Cyrodiil. I'm tired of the lack of effort, and I could care less about "waiting until after the console release has settled down." I have an internal list of just about everyone who deserves at least a warning, or who would have received one in any other MMO by now, in my head. Some of them are even friends. Not that I would want them banned, that's not it by any means. I just know that what a lot of people are allowed to get away with in this game is crazy and I'm flabbergasted that the only people to ever receive a slap on the wrist are the people who ported to enemy gate wayshrines. Which who even cares about that, those players were destroyed within seconds by everyone at the gate every time they ported to it.

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Discussing Disciplinary Actions]
Edited by ZOS_ArtG on May 20, 2015 8:12PM
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  • Rylana
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    Um.... did I cause this feel?

    I like to troll outposts :(
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  • PeggymoeXD
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    No @Rylana, in this case, it wasn't you.
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  • Yonkit
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    Awww, don't quit pvp. Baddies gonna bad, but it doesn't have to get you down. I came across a handful of reds griefing like this the other day, so we just killed them for it. Most good players aren't gonna bother with it, just the weak and the delusional would sneak into outposts just so they could drop oil on poor folks coming out of transit. Ultimately they're more like fodder than anything else.
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  • Rylana
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    Yonkit wrote: »
    Awww, don't quit pvp. Baddies gonna bad, but it doesn't have to get you down. I came across a handful of reds griefing like this the other day, so we just killed them for it. Most good players aren't gonna bother with it, just the weak and the delusional would sneak into outposts just so they could drop oil on poor folks coming out of transit. Ultimately they're more like fodder than anything else.

    I resent this. My outpost trolling is in direct defiance of them clipping my wings in 1.6

    :(

    I believe I can fly
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  • PeggymoeXD
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    Yonkit wrote: »
    Awww, don't quit pvp. Baddies gonna bad, but it doesn't have to get you down. I came across a handful of reds griefing like this the other day, so we just killed them for it. Most good players aren't gonna bother with it, just the weak and the delusional would sneak into outposts just so they could drop oil on poor folks coming out of transit. Ultimately they're more like fodder than anything else.

    More plays into this decision than just this one instance. This is just the example that put me over the edge.
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  • PeggymoeXD
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    Rylana wrote: »
    Yonkit wrote: »
    Awww, don't quit pvp. Baddies gonna bad, but it doesn't have to get you down. I came across a handful of reds griefing like this the other day, so we just killed them for it. Most good players aren't gonna bother with it, just the weak and the delusional would sneak into outposts just so they could drop oil on poor folks coming out of transit. Ultimately they're more like fodder than anything else.

    I resent this. My outpost trolling is in direct defiance of them clipping my wings in 1.6

    :(

    I believe I can fly

    My wings were clipped too. But if a door is obviously supposed to be closed, I don't try to go through the door. Now don't get me wrong, if there is an opportunity to legitimately fly to an enemy at the same level, I am the first to take it. Regardless of where they are.
    Edited by PeggymoeXD on May 20, 2015 8:16PM
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  • Rylana
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    The game does need a mechanic to bypass doors that doesnt involve siege. Historically many sieges were broken from within without a single stone being crumbled. Espionage, trojan horse, and the like.

    I have a real beef with smartass players that never leave the safety of keep walls and send me constant hatetells is all. I just want to hug them with my burning talons.

    DK life is a hard life. Just gimme a rope and grappling hook. Gimme a ladder. I want to hug bads :(
    Edited by Rylana on May 20, 2015 8:19PM
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    Aldmeri Dominion: Rylana Dionysis - DK - AR 25 == Kailiana - NB - AR 21 == Minerva Dionysis - Temp - AR 21 == Victoria Dionysis - Sorc - AR 13
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  • Yonkit
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    Rylana wrote: »
    Yonkit wrote: »
    Awww, don't quit pvp. Baddies gonna bad, but it doesn't have to get you down. I came across a handful of reds griefing like this the other day, so we just killed them for it. Most good players aren't gonna bother with it, just the weak and the delusional would sneak into outposts just so they could drop oil on poor folks coming out of transit. Ultimately they're more like fodder than anything else.

    I resent this. My outpost trolling is in direct defiance of them clipping my wings in 1.6

    :(

    I believe I can fly

    Maybe you should stop dropping oil on lowbies, then you can be less of a baddie and peggy moe won't have to quit. We all troll in one way or another, I prefer to troll DK's by archering through their wings :)

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    People die in PvP, this is a sad day indeed. :cry:

    Also, ZOS thought you wernt mad enough so they sunk your thread.
    Edited by Teargrants on May 20, 2015 8:48PM
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  • ArcanusMagus
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    It's garbage people who do things like troll wayshrines inside keeps they glitched into. Not garbage players, garbage people.

    ZOS does nothing. After all this time with nothing happening to fix it or to remove the players abusing the exploit, ZOS is a party to it, in my opinion.
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  • PeggymoeXD
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    It's garbage people who do things like troll wayshrines inside keeps they glitched into. Not garbage players, garbage people.

    ZOS does nothing. After all this time with nothing happening to fix it or to remove the players abusing the exploit, ZOS is a party to it, in my opinion.

    Couldn't agree more
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    Rylana wrote: »
    Yonkit wrote: »
    Awww, don't quit pvp. Baddies gonna bad, but it doesn't have to get you down. I came across a handful of reds griefing like this the other day, so we just killed them for it. Most good players aren't gonna bother with it, just the weak and the delusional would sneak into outposts just so they could drop oil on poor folks coming out of transit. Ultimately they're more like fodder than anything else.



    I believe I can fly

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    Edited by Armitas on May 20, 2015 10:02PM
    Retired.
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    Yeah I forsee a break in my future as well when my sub ends shortly. When Zenimax decides to start paying attention to their current and longtime customers again, maybe I will start playing(and paying) again.

    They really bit off more than they could chew with this whole console thing.
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  • Oughash
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    Now that the exploit to enter outposts is widely know, more and more people are doing it. Not many are innocent in this. Sure, its good for some lulz. Unfortunately, many of those that do it happen to be "elite" or "well known" players -- thus giving the impression to those which aren't that the behavior OK. Doesn't matter who you are, its tough to survive an oil on your head standing in caltrops the minute you step off the transitus.

  • CN_Daniel
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    My people get banned for cursing at people who do it. How hilarious. Yet, when we report the people who do the exploit, ZERO action is taken.

    Maybe if I start glitching my whole 50 warrior teams in they'll listen?
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    NPK Daniel wrote: »
    My people get banned for cursing at people who do it. How hilarious. Yet, when we report the people who do the exploit, ZERO action is taken.

    Maybe if I start glitching my whole 50 warrior teams in they'll listen?

    Yeah it seems that until the masses exploit, they could care less.

    If only ZOS would moderate their game as well as their forums.
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  • PeggymoeXD
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    Observant wrote: »
    NPK Daniel wrote: »
    My people get banned for cursing at people who do it. How hilarious. Yet, when we report the people who do the exploit, ZERO action is taken.

    Maybe if I start glitching my whole 50 warrior teams in they'll listen?

    Yeah it seems that until the masses exploit, they could care less.

    If only ZOS would moderate their game as well as their forums.

    Best statement on the forums.

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