So, my 10 months of loyalty only worths 2500 crowns to you ?

SHADOW2KK · April 2015

Kronosphere wrote: »

MehmetCan wrote: »

My loyalty reward tiger mount will be on sale at crown store soon. (yes, with a diffeent skin)

So, my 10 months of loyalty only worths of 2500 crowns to you. This made me sad.

Even if you sold it to $1000, I would still be sad. I was with you from the beginning, I belive, I deserved to stay a little bit uniqe.

Anyway. I wish you sell enough of that to keep up this wonderful game.

are you serious? they dont owe u anything. u paid to play the game. they gave game u gave money end of story. be thankful they gave u anything. think of it as an added bonus and be happy.. stop being so god damn entitled man

Edit: removed offensive words directed at the op, regrettably.

Don`t hold back or anything:P lol, thought I was blunt.

End of the day as I have said many times, its a game, the sun will still rise regardless of what happens in the game, people take things way too seriously.

I was in beta too, I was a month short of the senche tiger, don`t really care, its pixels.

I am more bothered about the state of the game in PvP and PvE and the lag monster that affects most of us, regardless of how good your rig is, or how good your net is.

IMO playing this fantastic game, would be way better if it did not lag every so often.

Everything else is shiny bells and whistles, get the core game sorted first.

Elitist attitudes like oh I been here since beta blah blah, so what, so was I, so was many others, our experience was shared by many others.

Slightly unrelated, but I am still in the top 1% in the world for longest headshot on Battlefield 3, still, after 2 odd years, and | share that honour with many others.

Moral of story is, its a game, its what we are within the game is what matters for everyone playing it.

Don`t feel as though you are higher godlike beings in the game cos you were in beta, as said, so was I but I still help people in zone who ask questions, I don`t think scrubs or L2P or w/e, its a game, I am happy that new people have bought the game and experiencing it just like us veterans.

Remember the honeymoon period when you first started, regardless of how long ago it was, and that wow emotion you had, don`t spoil it for anyone else, or who gets a tiger or w/e.

Let them write their own legend.

Wolfshead · April 2015

@MehmetCan

Where were you when rest off forum was talk about this thing a few week back?? Serious come this late to table and whine about thing that is ancient history and the loyalty reward tiger mount we got no one else will have that skins on it and we all know that would be tiger mounts i tihnk is cliché of you come now and whine about thing that rest of us have move pass.

stabbykitteh · April 2015

Tanaka_Khan wrote: »

I'm looking at the store right now and I can't see any monkey there.

That would make two of us. They'll probably offer a reskin of it soon though.

Don't see any problem with that personally.

Robotmafia · April 2015

you could look at it this way.. with the mount, pets and costumes your loyal is worth about 50-60 bucks if you woulda had to buy em with crowns.. and like someone else said, you didn't play for the gifts you would later recieve

fromtesonlineb16_ESO · April 2015

MehmetCan wrote: »

My loyalty reward tiger mount will be on sale at crown store soon. (yes, with a diffeent skin)

So, my 10 months of loyalty only worths of 2500 crowns to you. This made me sad.

Even if you sold it to $1000, I would still be sad. I was with you from the beginning, I belive, I deserved to stay a little bit uniqe.

Anyway. I wish you sell enough of that to keep up this wonderful game.

You (and I) deserved nothing simply for playing a game we CHOSE to pay for.

The entitlement round here over the defunct 'loyalty' scheme is unbelievable.

MehmetCan · April 2015

For some of you who don't understand what I wrote.

They gave us a "loyalty reward tiger mount" which said to be exclusive for us.

But they decided to sell the tiger mount for 2500 crowns now ( this is why I'm asking if my loyalty worths 2500k crowns. Not because they gave me crown rewards etc. It's the price tag of their loyalty gift. Please read a little bit carefully)

And some people still really can't get it. They still say "they don't owe you anything". It's nothing related to "owe". If they didn't gave us anything that was fine. But they gave us something exclusove for our loyalty and now they sell it. Which means putting a price tag for our loyalty. Is it really hard to undetstand what I say? Or my English is not good enough to describe it.

Tabbycat · April 2015

Last time I looked it wasn't a Senche tiger being made available in the Crown store. It was a Senche leopard.

Dudegeridoo · April 2015

MehmetCan wrote: »

For some of you who don't understand what I wrote.

They gave us a "loyalty reward tiger mount" which said to be exclusive for us.

But they decided to sell the tiger mount for 2500 crowns now ( this is why I'm asking if my loyalty worths 2500k crowns. Not because they gave me crown rewards etc. It's the price tag of their loyalty gift. Please read a little bit carefully)

And some people still really can't get it. They still say "they don't owe you anything". It's nothing related to "owe". If they didn't gave us anything that was fine. But they gave us something exclusove for our loyalty and now they sell it. Which means putting a price tag for our loyalty. Is it really hard to undetstand what I say? Or my English is not good enough to describe it.

Is not even the same mount...

MehmetCan · April 2015

Tabbycat wrote: »

Last time I looked it wasn't a Senche tiger being made available in the Crown store. It was a Senche leopard.

True. Same 3d model, different texture (skin).
Actually horses are the same as well. One model, half dozen of skins.

I was under the expression of having unique mount, not unique skin. But now many dedicated defenders will come and say "no they didn't promise such thing.", "they never promised anything", "you're lucky to get something.", "you're greedy, stiny, self-centered, elitist, etc."

If being loyal to a game, gifted by something and then being punished and insulted by Zenimax shall be named as these. Yes then I'm all of these.

Then again, someone will come and zealously say "NO! you don't deserve anything, you got game time during paid period, they don't need to give you something, etc. etc..." again and again without even reading and understanding what I'm saying.

It's all about respect. If you promote someone, you shouldn't disgrace that promotion. Otherwise it would be considered as an insult.

nerevarine1138 · April 2015

MehmetCan wrote: »

Tabbycat wrote: »

Last time I looked it wasn't a Senche tiger being made available in the Crown store. It was a Senche leopard.

True. Same 3d model, different texture (skin).
Actually horses are the same as well. One model, half dozen of skins.

I was under the expression of having unique mount, not unique skin. But now many dedicated defenders will come and say "no they didn't promise such thing.", "they never promised anything", "you're lucky to get something.", "you're greedy, stiny, self-centered, elitist, etc."

If being loyal to a game, gifted by something and then being punished and insulted by Zenimax shall be named as these. Yes then I'm all of these.

Then again, someone will come and zealously say "NO! you don't deserve anything, you got game time during paid period, they don't need to give you something, etc. etc..." again and again without even reading and understanding what I'm saying.

It's all about respect. If you promote someone, you shouldn't disgrace that promotion. Otherwise it would be considered as an insult.

If you consider this an insult or punishment, you should probably never go outside your door. Or interact with other human beings ever.

They never claimed they wouldn't sell other senche mounts through the Crown Store. The skin for the mount was always the exclusive reward for being subscribed since day one. Your lack of understanding was not ZO's fault here.

Gidorick · April 2015

@MehmetCan You're late to the party man. This discussion happened, was hotly debated, and settled down through JAN and FEB of this year.

Loyalty appreciation doesn't exist anymore so you might as well stop expecting it to. Those of us who played since the beginning have unique (as in uniquely skinned):

Monkey (if you were in the Beta)
Ice Wraith
Dwemer Sphere
Mask of Cheerful Slaugher
Senche Mount

Plus we got 1,000-1,200 Crowns for our past months of subscription.

Should we have gotten more than that? That's up for pointless, fruitless debate (obviously).... but we didn't get nothing.

I went through a similar debate and in the end it came down to one question that I will phrase for your situation?

Will you feeling disrespected result in you leaving the game?

For me, the answer was a resounding NO. Yes, I felt like ZOS should have done more, but they could have done less. It didn't upset me enough to quit the game, so I let it go. So, if this upsets you enough to leave the game... we're sorry to see you go (Can I have your stuff? -hehe-). If it doesn't upset you enough to leave the game, it's best to just accept the way things are, allow this experience to inform your future perspective within the game, and play on.

MehmetCan · April 2015

How did you guys discussed this topic on January ~ February ? Several people also said the same thing.

I have just learned that they're going to sell the tiger on crown store with the expectation of winning back the beta testers (beta testers free weekend event). I have learned it yesterday to be honest.

Are you guys clear on what I am saying ?
I'm not complaining about the gifts they gave.
I'm complaining about their desicion to sell those gifts on store as well.

Of course I'll play ESO.
But I'll not respect Zenimax anymore since they disgrace their promise.

drackonir · April 2015

what a hate on the OP, some people really need to check their heads.
A year ago ZOS was claiming this game will never go into different business model. I was happy with that and kind of felt it is worthy to pay the sub. Now the game is B2P what is different to what i was promised when i bought the game and signed the subscription agreement.
As a token of appreciation to my loyalty i received a skin to a mount, lol. I would not complain if the game was beta phase or F2P but i was paying for a year to "play" it. It is ZOS that changed the initial agreement between us.
I was hoping for a token of appreciation that means something more than a mount skin.
In 6 months time nobody will remember that striped senche tiger was an exclusive mount for loyal paying players, nobody will ask where did i get that nice thing i am riding on; everyone will ride a tiger mount one type or another.
Yes i like to stand out of the crowd but this topic shows that crowd hates people who thinks about doing that.

I am a loyal customer of Vodafone (same as with ZOS it is my decision to be with them and pay them money to use their services). Last year I was about to renew my contract and i found out that i am getting less then a new customer. I called their customer service and told them I will take away both of my contract to different service provider as i am not happy with the way they treat loyal customers. As a result i received 15% discount on both contracts and free 4G as a token of appreciation.
According to some people here i should not demand anything from Vodafone but only be grateful that they allow me to spend my money on their services

nerevarine1138 · April 2015

drackonir wrote: »

what a hate on the OP, some people really need to check their heads.
A year ago ZOS was claiming this game will never go into different business model. I was happy with that and kind of felt it is worthy to pay the sub. Now the game is B2P what is different to what i was promised when i bought the game and signed the subscription agreement.
As a token of appreciation to my loyalty i received a skin to a mount, lol. I would not complain if the game was beta phase or F2P but i was paying for a year to "play" it. It is ZOS that changed the initial agreement between us.
I was hoping for a token of appreciation that means something more than a mount skin.
In 6 months time nobody will remember that striped senche tiger was an exclusive mount for loyal paying players, nobody will ask where did i get that nice thing i am riding on; everyone will ride a tiger mount one type or another.
Yes i like to stand out of the crowd but this topic shows that crowd hates people who thinks about doing that.

I am a loyal customer of Vodafone (same as with ZOS it is my decision to be with them and pay them money to use their services). Last year I was about to renew my contract and i found out that i am getting less then a new customer. I called their customer service and told them I will take away both of my contract to different service provider as i am not happy with the way they treat loyal customers. As a result i received 15% discount on both contracts and free 4G as a token of appreciation.
According to some people here i should not demand anything from Vodafone but only be grateful that they allow me to spend my money on their services

No. But as someone who has worked in customer service, that is a shining example of the worst kind of customer to deal with.

drackonir · April 2015

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

No. But as someone who has worked in customer service, that is a shining example of the worst kind of customer to deal with.

lol, you are not even funny, you are worst than that.
So as a customer i don't have rights to ask for equal treatment? I remind you: my renew contract was worst then a new customer contract.
I am sorry for your *** experience as a customer service but please do not measure everyone by your own standards.

BigM · April 2015

The sad part is ZoS may have picked the wrong side in this. We were loyal to them and believed they were working on the PC game when in reality they were working on the console version. It all comes down to how they have treated the one's that keep supporting them with our hard earned money. I love the game but unfortunately I can't trust them after lying to us about what they were doing. Bottom line you just don't mess with the loyal players and treat them like they have and expect good results from it. 3200 crowns and a pet just isn't a real thank you or an apology to how they treated us.

In time we will see if they picked the right or wrong side. We see how players have affected SOE when that company treated their customers the way they did. Just hope ZoS haven't gone into the same hole SOE did!

MehmetCan · April 2015

Yup... here it is.

My loyalty since beta is being sold for 2500 crowns right now.

Enjoy your easily acquired awesome Senche Leopard guys.

Moonglum83 · April 2015

MehmetCan wrote: »

Yup... here it is.

My loyalty since beta is being sold for 2500 crowns right now.

Enjoy your easily acquired awesome Senche Leopard guys.

Holy First-World-Problems Batman! -.-*

MehmetCan · May 2015

Ohhh

Here is the black panther skin.

What is next ?
Maybe a snow leopard with pink polka dots ?

Ajaxduo · May 2015

You paid for a service, that doesn't make you a special snowflake. *sigh*

Craven_Killmore · May 2015

you think a game in such a state would not re skin mounts to sell in the cash shop? really? how is this a surprise to you or anyone reading this? you can't be that numb, you didn't see them stop caring when it's been 9 months + with no content? Lol

Gidorick · May 2015

Who says necromancy isn't in ESO? It's just a Forum Skill.

Sunver · May 2015

People think that reskinning mounts is like: make a layer, recolor the layer, save. Not so. Try to do that yourself, youll see how crappy the end product of this 3 step tutorial looks.

Still with this in mind I think that mounts should be sold with a pack of skins, lets say Sanche-Cat mount with 3 skins(ofcourse Tiger skin excluded) for 5000 crowns. Problem solved.

sylviermoone · May 2015

Gidorick wrote: »

Who says necromancy isn't in ESO? It's just a Forum Skill.

LOL. +1 to you, good sir.

JD2013 · May 2015

Necromancy certainly should be a skill in ESO with all the raising of dead threads here.

BloodWolfe · May 2015

I am so sick of the level of self-entitlement these days!

You paid the subscription fee to play the game and at that point no expectations of any sort of loyalty rewards so when they do give you something you are now saying it's not enough? Be glad they gave you something at all because they truly did NOT have too give you a thing!

PBpsy · May 2015

Where's that damned LOL button when you need it?

MehmetCan · May 2015

I'll resurrect this post whenever they sell a tiger variation to make everyone remember ZOS betrayal. It's my post & if you don't like necromancy you can troll on elsewhere.

And what is wrong to stand out of the crowd ?

Why you guys paint your armor ? why you try to use all of those motifs on equipment ?
And why did you spend all that time on player creation screen ? Be honest !

You want to be special, everyone does. ZOS gave me that privilege and it's my right to have that. Like it or not.

Lord Xanhorn · May 2015

TLDR....2500 crowns is worth like 20 bucks. Seems pretty generous.

ZOS_GaryA · May 2015

Hey there folks,

We generally don't see an issue with thread necromancy as long as the new post is related to the previous topic (example: A bug is occurring again, etc). As the new discussion is not relevant to the original post, we're going to go ahead and close the thread. If you would like to provide feedback about the Senche-Panther, we encourage you to do so in one of the many existing threads, or in a newly created thread. Thanks for your understanding!