The Grand Bazaar!

SantieClaws · May 2015

Had some thoughts about trading.

We have more new players. More competition for trading slots. We could do with more traders.

Why not have some great trading centres - maybe even an island or two or three (one per alliance) devoted to trading? Have them indoors if required so they don't impact too much on existing landmasses. Imagine the Grand Bazaar of Sentinel, A sea of Khajiiti tents and caravans or the Great Market Hall of Glenumbra. Great trading centres where everything you could ever want is at your fingertips (or claws if you know what this one means). Locations with 20 or more traders - as many as can practically be put in one place without killing the game.

The NPC marketplace in Daggerfall is great as is the one in Sentinel. Lots of atmosphere. However the locations of guild traders are kind of stuck out on the edge and you don't really get so much passing traffic (footfall I think is the phrase in retail). This is obviously because they needed to be put in later on and were not there at launch. Trade should be at the heart of Tamriel's cities though.

So who is with me on this?

Daemons_Bane · May 2015

I'm in

a great "common" marketplace would be awesome.. What I think could be really sweet if we simply put in on a island and allowed every faction access to it.. Like put a wayshrine in thee towns that could send you over there.. Make it a haven so every faction could travel there.. Also we should be allowed to put stuff up there for sale

Peekachu99 · May 2015

It still annoying until they save your damn search settings between vendors. It's bad enought you have to visit half of Tamriel sometimes to find something that you want. Add to that the inconvenience of having to click through menus each and every time and you have a perfect storm of irritation.

BuggeX · May 2015

Wy the community dont just creat a own bazaar?

choice a hill, City wathever. were vendors and consumer meet and can trade stuff.

A community base Action would also work.

There is no Need Zos have to implement some Things, the com just have to start somwhere. even if just a few start. but with the time i will grow to a real bazaar...

mby in auridon at the beach Close to the starter City? anyone have Access. and you still have a nice view

the auction would work easy, without a mess. vendors /s wts [wathever]

player1 -7 are interest in it and wsp him.

Vendor invite this 7 in grp so they have a own instans Chat and can bid and trade the item.
So up to 23 ppl can join a auction

SantieClaws · May 2015

The difficulty with a community bazaar would be that people would need to be logged in and standing there for a lot of the time for it to work

SgtSilock · May 2015

I know the perfect way of fixing it,

being able to set up player stalls. It works in Aion, it worked in SWG it can work in ESO.

Theosis · May 2015

BuggeX wrote: »

Wy the community dont just creat a own bazaar?

choice a hill, City wathever. were vendors and consumer meet and can trade stuff.

Server would break. We need something built for this like Cyrodiil to handle large amounts of people.

BuggeX wrote: »

A community base Action would also work.

No it wouldn't. Players can be very strange about this. To many variables.

BuggeX wrote: »

There is no Need Zos have to implement some Things, the com just have to start somwhere. even if just a few start. but with the time i will grow to a real bazaar...

Rawl'Kha is a decent setup for AD but the trade chat kills it for players who are questing. We need something set aside for us.

We need something built for us do to, banking and crafting.

Player A has a ton of mats for sale but bags are full due to selling other items...

Player B wants to buy an axe with a special trait so Player c can craft it for 200 gold.

Ive been asking for this on the forums for a while. I think we as a community still need this.

Cuyler · May 2015

Peekachu99 wrote: »

It still annoying until they save your damn search settings between vendors. It's bad enought you have to visit half of Tamriel sometimes to find something that you want. Add to that the inconvenience of having to click through menus each and every time and you have a perfect storm of irritation.

The "awesomeguildstore" addon will save your searches and provide much needed filters.

BuggeX · May 2015

Theosis wrote: »

BuggeX wrote: »

Wy the community dont just creat a own bazaar?

choice a hill, City wathever. were vendors and consumer meet and can trade stuff.

Server would break. We need something built for this like Cyrodiil to handle large amounts of people.

no it would not, but i forgot about a other Problem, phasing....

there would be no way all ppl. around could meet.

idk · May 2015

I like how the market as it is. The current market is very TES with exploring to find traders and seeing the world. It's also a good free market expression to be able to have a trader. Not every guild that is larger enough to have a trader should in order to keep the ones that exist well stocked. Richer and fuller.

Zos. Please do not change the current trading system.

RazzPitazz · May 2015

BuggeX wrote: »

Theosis wrote: »

BuggeX wrote: »

Wy the community dont just creat a own bazaar?

choice a hill, City wathever. were vendors and consumer meet and can trade stuff.

Server would break. We need something built for this like Cyrodiil to handle large amounts of people.

no it would not, but i forgot about a other Problem, phasing....

there would be no way all ppl. around could meet.

This is the main issue. You only meet people from your own faction which makes community based events a little rough for everyone to participate.

BuggeX · May 2015

rajaniemiorama_ESO wrote: »

BuggeX wrote: »

Theosis wrote: »

BuggeX wrote: »

Wy the community dont just creat a own bazaar?

choice a hill, City wathever. were vendors and consumer meet and can trade stuff.

Server would break. We need something built for this like Cyrodiil to handle large amounts of people.

no it would not, but i forgot about a other Problem, phasing....

there would be no way all ppl. around could meet.

This is the main issue. You only meet people from your own faction which makes community based events a little rough for everyone to participate.

i never said, i would like to trade with smurfs

Darklord_Tiberius · May 2015

So basically, you want them to create an "Orgrimmar" of ESO, so people do not have to go to any other cities anymore?

Nah, bad idea really.

If they add more traders, that would be fine. But centralizing all trade guilds to one area would do more harm than good.

SantieClaws · May 2015

I wasn't suggesting removing the existing traders - just the establishment of a few new really big, beautiful looking trade centres.

I hate to use this analogy but maybe like the Tamriel equivalent of big, out of town, shopping centres (malls)?

Moonshadow66 · May 2015

Theosis wrote: »

BuggeX wrote: »

Wy the community dont just creat a own bazaar?

choice a hill, City wathever. were vendors and consumer meet and can trade stuff.

Server would break. We need something built for this like Cyrodiil to handle large amounts of people.

BuggeX wrote: »

A community base Action would also work.

No it wouldn't. Players can be very strange about this. To many variables.

BuggeX wrote: »

There is no Need Zos have to implement some Things, the com just have to start somwhere. even if just a few start. but with the time i will grow to a real bazaar...

Rawl'Kha is a decent setup for AD but the trade chat kills it for players who are questing. We need something set aside for us.

We need something built for us do to, banking and crafting.

Player A has a ton of mats for sale but bags are full due to selling other items...

Player B wants to buy an axe with a special trait so Player c can craft it for 200 gold.

Ive been asking for this on the forums for a while. I think we as a community still need this.

How about directly at the two gates of each alliance? Called "The Great Gate Trade"^^
But either way, I prefer the OP's vision

SantieClaws · May 2015

In practical terms, throughout history traders have always gathered together. You didn't get one or two people saying "you know what we will go away from the main marketplace where all the other traders are and I'm sure we will do much better business that way". Central marketplaces and grand bazaars happened for a reason - because they were good for trade. People knew the one place they had to go to get what they needed and all they could possibly have needed was in one place.

Good for the traders, good for the customers.

Praxxos · May 2015

Darklord_Tiberius wrote: »

If they add more traders, that would be fine. But centralizing all trade guilds to one area would do more harm than good.

Actually it would be more good than harm. Having an area, heavy guarded with like 50 stores guilds can buy. People would gather there a lot. Everytime people gather somewhere, community events take place, social interaction occur. Thats a good thing.

I like the Idea of "The grand bazaar"!

Robotmafia · May 2015

yess that's a very good idea! travelling from town to town to talk to traders kinda sux... a big market area where everything is centralized would be great! and also reduce the need for a auction house

Heromofo · May 2015

Cut out the middleman bring in a global auction house

Praxxos · May 2015

Heromofo wrote: »

Cut out the middleman bring in a global auction house

nah, a global auction house for a 1 big mega server would dump all prices into the ground. The result is a pointless craft and gathering system since buying would be cheaper than doing it yourself.

SantieClaws · May 2015

They have already totally ruled out an AH in the traditional sense as it would pretty much kill the server.

Heromofo · May 2015

Praxxos wrote: »

Heromofo wrote: »

Cut out the middleman bring in a global auction house

nah, a global auction house for a 1 big mega server would dump all prices into the ground. The result is a pointless craft and gathering system since buying would be cheaper than doing it yourself.

Depending on how its implemented but something has to be done to widen the the games version now.
Unless they were to triple the guild vendors around the place or have one vendor host say 5 guilds at a time.

SantieClaws · May 2015

I sell more than I buy at the moment but I think a nice atmospheric place to shop might change my mind. I just have this vision of turning up to somewhere about the size of Bergama. Players arriving across the desert on camels (yes I really want a camel mount too). Players gathering to shop, a few people dancing, some acrobats (when we get acrobatic emotes), maybe someone putting on a play. Players standing by their shops to bring in the trade. A lively, interesting space to trade in and be in.

Heromofo · May 2015

wenxue2222b16_ESO wrote: »

I sell more than I buy at the moment but I think a nice atmospheric place to shop might change my mind. I just have this vision of turning up to somewhere about the size of Bergama. Players arriving across the desert on camels (yes I really want a camel mount too). Players gathering to shop, a few people dancing, some acrobats (when we get acrobatic emotes), maybe someone putting on a play. Players standing by their shops to bring in the trade. A lively, interesting space to trade in and be in.

@wenxue2222b16_ESO
Uuum is it just me or does that sound unreal i am in favor of a global AH but even i would be happy with that type of atmosphere.

drschplatt · May 2015

I'm all in favor of anything that improves on the broken, useless trading system we have now. If we can't get an alliance or global trading hall, then create a market place like the original poster suggested. It would improve the trading experience greatly.

AzraelKrieg · May 2015

I'm all for this but I'd like some stuff added to it. Some Bazaars don't just feature shops. They may feature other services. Crafting stations would be a good, gives you a chance to use the raw materials you buy or a place to upgrade or research the gear you buy. Maybe add a representative from the Mages, Fighters and Undaunted guilds to give daily quests. Some of the cities in this game are large enough that they could support the bazaar within the city limits. Wayrest, Daggerfall and Mournhold have a fair amount of space that could be used.

Theosis · May 2015

Praxxos wrote: »

Heromofo wrote: »

Cut out the middleman bring in a global auction house

nah, a global auction house for a 1 big mega server would dump all prices into the ground. The result is a pointless craft and gathering system since buying would be cheaper than doing it yourself.

then what happens when all the items are used up.. prices would not go down so easily

yeah argument invalid