Pesky NB's giving you trouble? No worries pop a detect potion!

Ryuho · May 2015

kijima wrote: »

You necro a thread from October 2014 and use that for making a point now in May 2015 when everything has changed?

Let me just say that the game was very different back then. NB's were squishy, cloak didn't work as intended and many, many things were still broken for NB's. Fast forward to current day and NB's are bad ass in PvP.

All I'm seeing here is someone used a detect pot on you in PvP and you died...

Yeah it changed for worst.. Now ppls use det + immo potions.. U are detected, and u cant stun/fear them for 11s.. GL killing shieldstacker as magicka NB while u are perma detected and they are perma stun resist.. Det pot should only reveal hidden targets, not provide CC immunity/spell powa or so..

Merlin13KAGL · May 2015

Ryuho wrote: »

kijima wrote: »

You necro a thread from October 2014 and use that for making a point now in May 2015 when everything has changed?

Let me just say that the game was very different back then. NB's were squishy, cloak didn't work as intended and many, many things were still broken for NB's. Fast forward to current day and NB's are bad ass in PvP.

All I'm seeing here is someone used a detect pot on you in PvP and you died...

Yeah it changed for worst.. Now ppls use det + immo potions.. U are detected, and u cant stun/fear them for 11s.. GL killing shieldstacker as magicka NB while u are perma detected and they are perma stun resist.. Det pot should only reveal hidden targets, not provide CC immunity/spell powa or so..

@Ryuho, both of which can be produced via skills.

Multi-effect potions have been in the game since day 1. Also, immovable does not prevent you from draining stamina other ways, even if you cannot fear/stun.

If they're knee deep in defense (shield stacking, blocking, whatever), they're also not damaging you while the potion ticks away, and most people have longer than 11s cooldown on potions.

So, avoid for 10 seconds and resume. Nothing new here.

Samadhi · May 2015

BuggeX wrote: »

Detect Pots?

nobody have space for this vs a NB. i prefer use a triheal bot....

Triheal pots?
You mean those 40-45 second cooldown potions that give roughly 1-2 attacks worth of burst healing and have 2/3s of their bonuses replaced by Green Dragon Blood or Radiant Aura?

No thank you.

Personally run Detection potions approximately 99-100% of the time on 3 out of 4 of the classes -- have a Reduce Potion Cooldown enchantment on my Necklace to give 40 second cooldown to 40 second duration buffs.

Compare the benefits of this to triheal potions for my Templar or Dragonknight:
Triheal potions give Magicka Regen, Stamina Regen, Health Regen -- the Stamina Regen and Health Regen get overwritten by my class buffs voiding nearly 2/3s of the potion's utility.
Detection potions give Magicka Regen, 20% increase to my Spell Damage stat, and permanent ability to eliminate 90% of a single class' best defense skill, as well as the ability to see Sneaking gankers or zergs.

Triheal potions used to be great before 1.6 when the cooldown was low and the heal over time effect was independent of other stats.
With the new potion buff system, do not use them for anything but my Sorcerer (because Sorcerer lacks meaningful class-based Stamina management to replace them with).

jkemmery · May 2015

CapuchinSeven wrote: »

It's true they do, Nightblade Cloak is useless around anyone running a cheap, quick to make detection potion.

I've said it a number of times before, but you don't see a potion shutting down GDB or Bolt Escape.

To be fair I believe there has been mention of it being looked into.

You're comparing GDB to Invisibility? Really? They don't even do the same thing, whatsoever. All GDB does is give you a heal and a short buff.

Awwww, you can't gank me with impunity. QQ

I didn't realize this was a dead thread

TequilaFire · May 2015

Yo have to be kidding me.
NBs are so overpowered in certain build right now, got to have some defense.

Davadin · May 2015

I didn't know this... must craft some bottles once I'm home.

nastuug · May 2015

Mark Target from stealth. GG NB.