Azura Star

RedTalon · May 2015

Poxheart wrote: »

I didn't stay long, but DC was getting the DP tonight on Azura's.

Was a better night on another campaign that is for sure

PainfulFAFA · May 2015

Azuras last night was just so so sad.

CN_Daniel · May 2015

There was a heavy spy presence last night in DC. We will have to counter that some way...

CN_Daniel · May 2015

NPK Daniel wrote: »

There was a heavy spy presence last night in DC. We will have to counter that some way...

A lvl 10 DC shot a ballista in the middle of my 20 warrior group stealth-ed group right as a large force of EP was passing by. Then the entire EP team immediately turned towards us and obviously we got destroyed. Then the DC lvl 10 jumped off the outer ring wall and danced with the EP. I am naming nor shaming no one, just stating facts.

Ifthir_ESO · May 2015

PainfulFAFA wrote: »

Azuras last night was just so so sad.

go on....

*signed, player who left Azuras for another campaign*

Earendal · May 2015

Spies? Or the unstealthed members of you group jumping off the wall to join you? If there are any spies on DC, they aren't sharing any info with us...

Takllin · May 2015

Earendal wrote: »

Spies? Or the unstealthed members of you group jumping off the wall to join you? If there are any spies on DC, they aren't sharing any info with us...

Who is "us"?

From how he explained it, it is pretty clear that there was a spy, and this was more than merely tracking some people who jumped off without sneak on. A DC player shot a ballista at them while they were all in sneak.

Which is pathetic, IMO, but such are things in war.

Earendal · May 2015

Takllin wrote: »

Who is "us"?

From how he explained it, it is pretty clear that there was a spy, and this was more than merely tracking some people who jumped off without sneak on. A DC player shot a ballista at them while they were all in sneak.

Which is pathetic, IMO, but such are things in war.

Well, considering the fact that our guild leader was the one getting hate-tells accusing us of spying I think the assumption is fair. We don't, however, use spies. If someone did shoot a ballista in their groups direction that wasn't what tipped us off. It was the fact that there were multiple members of the group that weren't in stealth when they jumped off the wall to join them. But, by all means, keep it up with the baseless accusations. A lack of evidence hasn't stopped any of you in the past so I have no expectation that it will stop you now.

Bouvin · May 2015

Earendal wrote: »

Spies? Or the unstealthed members of you group jumping off the wall to join you? If there are any spies on DC, they aren't sharing any info with us...

LOL, like when we watched a couple of EP ride right into your stealth bomb last night, then we rolled right over you.

Happens to everyone I guess!

Altho, I'm guessing a couple of people got chewed out haha..

Agrippa_Invisus · May 2015

Earendal wrote: »

Takllin wrote: »

Who is "us"?

From how he explained it, it is pretty clear that there was a spy, and this was more than merely tracking some people who jumped off without sneak on. A DC player shot a ballista at them while they were all in sneak.

Which is pathetic, IMO, but such are things in war.

Well, considering the fact that our guild leader was the one getting hate-tells accusing us of spying I think the assumption is fair. We don't, however, use spies. If someone did shoot a ballista in their groups direction that wasn't what tipped us off. It was the fact that there were multiple members of the group that weren't in stealth when they jumped off the wall to join them. But, by all means, keep it up with the baseless accusations. A lack of evidence hasn't stopped any of you in the past so I have no expectation that it will stop you now.

The verbal abuse was getting leveled at me, too.

Apparently, even the possibility that you might be running with Havoc (I wasn't -- not a member of, nor have I run with Havoc) is grounds to be labeled a lot of very nasty things.

I am sick and tired of it.

If people want to talk to me they can do so without the name calling. I am now in the position of just /ignoring anyone who even thinks about tossing insults beyond friendly smack talk.

CN_Daniel · May 2015

i told your leader i believe him, i hear he's a good dude. But believe me it did happen by someone there. The dancing with EP after the fact....?

Durham · May 2015

ZOS fix the #%$"%$" lag! Last night was horrid

Warraxx · May 2015

what goes around comes around... plenty of DC trolls on EP toons doin' the same crap. There is an incredible lack of class in the ESO PVP player base.

Alomar · May 2015

NPK Daniel wrote: »

There was a heavy spy presence last night in DC. We will have to counter that some way...

Lol, step one take off the tin foil hat. Step two, one of your members jumped off the Aleswell wall out of stealth on top of your grp. We recognized the name and proceeded to detect pot the area and wipe you. Ap was earned, spying was accused, in the end excuses don't make players better. Look forward to the next.

Jakx · May 2015

rip azuras

Kupoking · May 2015

Earendal wrote: »

Takllin wrote: »

Who is "us"?

From how he explained it, it is pretty clear that there was a spy, and this was more than merely tracking some people who jumped off without sneak on. A DC player shot a ballista at them while they were all in sneak.

Which is pathetic, IMO, but such are things in war.

Well, considering the fact that our guild leader was the one getting hate-tells accusing us of spying I think the assumption is fair. We don't, however, use spies. If someone did shoot a ballista in their groups direction that wasn't what tipped us off. It was the fact that there were multiple members of the group that weren't in stealth when they jumped off the wall to join them. But, by all means, keep it up with the baseless accusations. A lack of evidence hasn't stopped any of you in the past so I have no expectation that it will stop you now.

Big bs. you guys use spies all the time. especially when you cant win a fair fight.

Thx for coming over spreading lies, perhaps you should be on the field more so ppl knows your in havoc in other way than reading your signature.

Manoekin · May 2015

QQ

CN_Daniel · May 2015

It was a pleasure fighting you guys last night. It's nice to finally have some competition again. I look forward to this weekend.

Your tactics are different than any other groups we face. I love the challenge.

Takllin · May 2015

Earendal wrote: »

Takllin wrote: »

Who is "us"?

From how he explained it, it is pretty clear that there was a spy, and this was more than merely tracking some people who jumped off without sneak on. A DC player shot a ballista at them while they were all in sneak.

Which is pathetic, IMO, but such are things in war.

Well, considering the fact that our guild leader was the one getting hate-tells accusing us of spying I think the assumption is fair. We don't, however, use spies. If someone did shoot a ballista in their groups direction that wasn't what tipped us off. It was the fact that there were multiple members of the group that weren't in stealth when they jumped off the wall to join them. But, by all means, keep it up with the baseless accusations. A lack of evidence hasn't stopped any of you in the past so I have no expectation that it will stop you now.

Care to point out where I accused you or anyone of using spies? I'll wait.

Ignorance hasn't stopped you in the past, so why should we expect it to change now? Ignorance is bliss...

I feel sorry for the rest of EP that has to deal with the reputation that bad apples have given it.

Jauriel · May 2015

NPK Daniel wrote: »

NPK Daniel wrote: »

There was a heavy spy presence last night in DC. We will have to counter that some way...

A lvl 10 DC shot a ballista in the middle of my 20 warrior group stealth-ed group right as a large force of EP was passing by. Then the entire EP team immediately turned towards us and obviously we got destroyed. Then the DC lvl 10 jumped off the outer ring wall and danced with the EP. I am naming nor shaming no one, just stating facts.

Another reason I always say to not pick up level 10's and if you do-watch them like a HAWK. If you pick one up and wipe x2 you kick them.

Earendal · May 2015

Takllin wrote: »

Care to point out where I accused you or anyone of using spies? I'll wait.

Ignorance hasn't stopped you in the past, so why should we expect it to change now? Ignorance is bliss...

I feel sorry for the rest of EP that has to deal with the reputation that bad apples have given it.

Daniel was the one who accused us of having spies. Implying that we're "bad apples" only highlights your own ignorance. How many times have you seen us exploit scroll gates? How many times have you seen us place troll camps? How many times have we exploited our way into outposts? How many times have you seen us run scrolls into slaughterfish? The answer to all these is zero, because we strive to play by the rules and be the best that we can be.

houimetub17_ESO wrote: »

Big bs. you guys use spies all the time. especially when you cant win a fair fight.

Thx for coming over spreading lies, perhaps you should be on the field more so ppl knows your in havoc in other way than reading your signature.

False. We have never, and will never, use spies. Also, by fair fight do you mean when we face your guild 16-24 to 60+?

The only time I'm on the forums is when I'm at work, or when I'm asked to respond to relevant accusations by our guild leadership. I'm not a forum-warrior like so many people I see around here. I'm just a concise and relatively cool-headed voice in Havoc that doesn't mind the mind-numbing and ignorant personalities that seem to be so prevalent on this forum. But by all means, keep slinging that mud, maybe some day it will stick.

CN_Daniel · May 2015

Bro, I told your leader I believe him. Like I said I hear he's a good guy. I accept it wasn't y'all, but I promise you, it did happen.

Earendal · May 2015

No hard feelings; It's water under the bridge. As long as people know and accept that we're not using spies, I'm a happy camper. Perhaps you should disseminate some of your feelings to the more accusatory members of your guild.

Kupoking · May 2015

Funny when you read that and have proof of the opposite. How many major guilds are there NA? Never wondered why only yours has a bad reputation?

Ill give you an hint. Its not because you think your good.

Jauriel · May 2015

Daniel is a lot nicer person than I am. I never will hide my true feelings about you guys. And your denials here only make me laugh. But what I don't find funny is how every server you show up in goes down the crapper and becomes downright unplayable at times.

NOBODY likes to be in the same server as your guild. I know of at least one guild that told you all to stay off and that they wouldn't help you with your plan to troll every campaign. You guys have a bad rep every where you go with everyone. Like I said nobody wants your guild around and there is a reason for that. And you can come here with your wide eyed and Miss Innocent routine- but even YOU guys have admitted you're only in Azura to "prove" some point to those who flee the servers you show up in. Something about people "running" from you right? You're gonna go from campaign to campaign crowning emp and trolling each campaign right?

JDar · May 2015

Earendal wrote: »

No hard feelings; It's water under the bridge. As long as people know and accept that we're not using spies, I'm a happy camper. Perhaps you should disseminate some of your feelings to the more accusatory members of your guild.

Problem is, some members of your guild have told us the exact opposite.

Huckdabuck · May 2015

Jauriel wrote: »

Daniel is a lot nicer person than I am. I never will hide my true feelings about you guys. And your denials here only make me laugh. But what I don't find funny is how every server you show up in goes down the crapper and becomes downright unplayable at times.

NOBODY likes to be in the same server as your guild. I know of at least one guild that told you all to stay off and that they wouldn't help you with your plan to troll every campaign. You guys have a bad rep every where you go with everyone. Like I said nobody wants your guild around and there is a reason for that. And you can come here with your wide eyed and Miss Innocent routine- but even YOU guys have admitted you're only in Azura to "prove" some point to those who flee the servers you show up in. Something about people "running" from you right? You're gonna go from campaign to campaign crowning emp and trolling each campaign right?

If that's their plan then stop it. Otherwise just tone down the tough girl rhetoric. Quit trying to come off as someone who actually makes a difference because in all honesty.........you don't. No one does! You don't even have a say in what happens on your own campaign much less the rest of them. Now if you do (and that's a long stretch....like oh my god long)........prove it but the bravado and blah blah blah is just getting old and tiresome. Oh and I know of at least a few EP guilds that will run with them to accomplish things (teamwork...something foreign to the other two factions) so you don't speak for everyone! "Lions don't concern themselves with the opinions of sheep" or AP piñatas.

Edit *Disclaimer* I've been drinking a smidge tonight.

rfennell_ESO · May 2015

NPK Daniel wrote: »

It was a pleasure fighting you guys last night. It's nice to finally have some competition again. I look forward to this weekend.

Your tactics are different than any other groups we face. I love the challenge.

If one of your characters is "wizard daniel" I gotta just laugh at the "I love the challenge" line.

CN_Daniel · May 2015

Why would you say that?

Jauriel · May 2015

Huckdabuck wrote: »

Jauriel wrote: »

Daniel is a lot nicer person than I am. I never will hide my true feelings about you guys. And your denials here only make me laugh. But what I don't find funny is how every server you show up in goes down the crapper and becomes downright unplayable at times.

NOBODY likes to be in the same server as your guild. I know of at least one guild that told you all to stay off and that they wouldn't help you with your plan to troll every campaign. You guys have a bad rep every where you go with everyone. Like I said nobody wants your guild around and there is a reason for that. And you can come here with your wide eyed and Miss Innocent routine- but even YOU guys have admitted you're only in Azura to "prove" some point to those who flee the servers you show up in. Something about people "running" from you right? You're gonna go from campaign to campaign crowning emp and trolling each campaign right?

If that's their plan then stop it. Otherwise just tone down the tough girl rhetoric. Quit trying to come off as someone who actually makes a difference because in all honesty.........you don't. No one does! You don't even have a say in what happens on your own campaign much less the rest of them. Now if you do (and that's a long stretch....like oh my god long)........prove it but the bravado and blah blah blah is just getting old and tiresome. Oh and I know of at least a few EP guilds that will run with them to accomplish things (teamwork...something foreign to the other two factions) so you don't speak for everyone! "Lions don't concern themselves with the opinions of sheep" or AP piñatas.

Edit *Disclaimer* I've been drinking a smidge tonight.

It gives me the warm and fuzzies knowing how deeply I have gotten under your skin, Huck. Have another drink and toast me while you're at it.