tplink3r1 wrote: »

I always t-bag people, problem?

YES.

By taking the time to do that you are taking away time that could be used killing. I generally don't do it because I want to quickly run off to go somewhere else to kill some more. It takes valuable time to properly desecrate a corpse.

But like I said this week I will gladly sacrifice killing time for this in hopes that more situations occur where some irresponsible parent exposes their children to such things and then tries to pass the buck and point the finger at either the game company or the community.

I think I will make some macros as well for giggles.

macro #1
/r I do not entertain whispers regarding actions of my character. If you or your character has issue with something my character has done, please attempt to resolve this in game using proper roleplay. Thank you and have a pleasant day.

macro #2
/r I am sorry you did not appreciate my previous response. As a courtesy I would like to remind you we are playing a roleplaying game. If you are new to RPGs there are numerous guides and tutorials available on the internet that can referenced. Thank you and have a pleasant day.

Raash wrote: »

[Thats true. better teach the younglings to make sure THEY get the frag and be the tea-bagger. Best defense is a strong offense.

"Do unto others before they have time to do unto you."
--- George Bernard Shaw


* I twisted his actual quote for effect. Alas, it's polar opposite.

Welcome to any game that has pvp in it now a-days without auto respawn

Heromofo wrote: »

nastuug wrote: »

Heromofo wrote: »

nastuug wrote: »

Heromofo wrote: »

vichoi wrote: »

technohic wrote: »

No offense OP; but 30 years of playing and you want to pretend like this sort of thing isn't a regular occurrence in online multiplayer? This stuff is not exclusive to ESO at all and has not been for at least 10 years.

And I would also ask myself "How old is my daughter, and what is this M in a white box at the bottom of my screen?" Even with that, they still add the legal extra of "Online interactions not rated by the ESRB" because they have known for years how an online community can be.

It's true it happens in almost all PVP games i ever play, the worst experience means the moment my daughter saw it.

Sylvyr wrote: »

vichoi wrote: »

I'm not talking about the game alone, ESO is one of the best online game i ever played.

However, it's the player habit in the game, almost everytime I dead in PVP, other players will XXXX my corpse.
Last time my daughter was watching me playing PVP and asked me what are they doing on my char's dead body, which i don't know how to explain such a behavior to a girl.

If ESO is a small society, ZOS should be responsible to stop such an ridiculous and offense activities happening in their game.
it's like the broken glass theory, if they do nothing, it's just encourage other player to follow.

Your inability to shelter your daughter from seeing mature content as well as your inability to explain to her what other players are doing to desecrate your dead body is not our responsibility.

Elder Scrolls is not a Disney game. Never has been. What would give you the idea that it is suitable for a young ladies viewing? Would you play GTA in front of her as well?

If you got caught watching *** would you blame the ***'s producers for allowing such sexual content in their movie?

Furthermore, if you are talking about the squatting gesture that occurs, there is no actual genitalia exposed so it is not explicit either.

Solution: Be a responsible parent don't make ZoS parent for you.

When i was young i love seeing mature content, there's no internet but every kid manage to watch mature content alllll the time. nobody in this world nowaday can stop kids watching mature contents with the internet.

The "M" on the screen will not make your kid to change the channel, if they can't watch it now, they'll watch later, if not here they'll go somewhere else. Think about what you did when you're a boy, and you'll know what they're doing, but just alot easier.

a wrong behavior is just wrong, if you did it 1000 times and get numb, it's doesnt make it right.

newtinmpls wrote: »

Davadin wrote: »

: She did ask me about a male orc in a wedding dress running around cyrodiil once, and THAT i have no idea how to explain.

I must have missed this.

Yes I can see the whole tea-bagging/disrespect/troll thing as a problem, an evidence of immaturity, and generally more (entirely subjective) fuel for my personal suspicion that PvP can be more inherently attractive to less mature people. Blah Blah Blah.

But you are upset about a male orc in a dress?

Cross-dressing .... somehow not on the same level as *** to me

wrong guy.

i'm not the OP.

go re-read my post again.

golfer.dub17_ESO wrote: »

Dude, it's an "I owned you" gesture in a game that is played by adults and teenagers. I've yet to meet anyone except yourself offended or traumatized by it, my friends do it to each other all the time.

While I do now realize this behavior is common, your comment does not nominate you for a poster child of mature behavior. If this is what you and your friends consider common and appropriate and enjoyable.... you social standards are quite different than mine.

vichoi wrote: »

technohic wrote: »

No offense OP; but 30 years of playing and you want to pretend like this sort of thing isn't a regular occurrence in online multiplayer? This stuff is not exclusive to ESO at all and has not been for at least 10 years.

And I would also ask myself "How old is my daughter, and what is this M in a white box at the bottom of my screen?" Even with that, they still add the legal extra of "Online interactions not rated by the ESRB" because they have known for years how an online community can be.

It's true it happens in almost all PVP games i ever play, the worst experience means the moment my daughter saw it.

Sylvyr wrote: »

vichoi wrote: »

I'm not talking about the game alone, ESO is one of the best online game i ever played.

However, it's the player habit in the game, almost everytime I dead in PVP, other players will XXXX my corpse.
Last time my daughter was watching me playing PVP and asked me what are they doing on my char's dead body, which i don't know how to explain such a behavior to a girl.

If ESO is a small society, ZOS should be responsible to stop such an ridiculous and offense activities happening in their game.
it's like the broken glass theory, if they do nothing, it's just encourage other player to follow.

Your inability to shelter your daughter from seeing mature content as well as your inability to explain to her what other players are doing to desecrate your dead body is not our responsibility.

Elder Scrolls is not a Disney game. Never has been. What would give you the idea that it is suitable for a young ladies viewing? Would you play GTA in front of her as well?

If you got caught watching *** would you blame the ***'s producers for allowing such sexual content in their movie?

Furthermore, if you are talking about the squatting gesture that occurs, there is no actual genitalia exposed so it is not explicit either.

Solution: Be a responsible parent don't make ZoS parent for you.

When i was young i love seeing mature content, there's no internet but every kid manage to watch mature content alllll the time. nobody in this world nowaday can stop kids watching mature contents with the internet.

The "M" on the screen will not make your kid to change the channel, if they can't watch it now, they'll watch later, if not here they'll go somewhere else. Think about what you did when you're a boy, and you'll know what they're doing, but just alot easier.

a wrong behavior is just wrong, if you did it 1000 times and get numb, it's doesnt make it right.

I see that your saying about children finding ways to content inappropriate for their age. I'm not going to get into an argument over access issues or pushing paternalistic policies in response to those issues, because that would be a very lengthy discussion.

But I gotta try to lay this one to bed because I don't want it to spread.

Focusing on your last line, "a wrong behavior is just wrong, if you did it 1000 times and get numb, it's doesnt make it right." Is generally true IRL. But what is important here is the context. This is a game. A fantasy game. Where like many other forms of adult entertainment the bounds and restrictions we place on ourselves in "normal everyday" real life are suspended giving us a playground in which to let loose in and behave differently. Something similar can be said for books and movies where anything the imagination can conceive can be portrayed. And in games we take a more active role in that whereas in books and film it's passive.

In real life it would be wrong of me to perform a rude gesture/desecrate your corpse after killing you. Oh wait, it would be wrong of me to kill you to.

I am adult enough to know the difference between fantasy and reality. If you don't know that difference or have gotten numb to recognizing it then that is on you.

You don't seem to recognize that:
1) This game not only allows for mature content, but is an appropriate place to "act" out. (Also if someone is truly harassing you beyond that and making it personal for example insulting tells, the makers of the game put /ignore in for just such things)
2) That regardless of your child (or all children) having access to mature content at every turn seems to be focusing you on the issue that the players in this game can make for uncomfortable situations between you and your daughter and players in this game should act in a more child-aware way (as if children were watching and should behave as such) which is a IMHO a total misplacement of your expectations and contextual mismatch.

I can't speak for others but I play this game as if I am not around children. I don't want to have to worry about it. I am in an 18+ guild so I don't have to worry about not cussing in front of children. Generally, I play to have fun and let loose and not stress or have to worry about such things.

I don't appreciate people trying to tell me that my in-game, fantasy behavior, is inappropriate because their children could be watching. Don't be "that guy" that bring the crying baby to a movie theater and ruins it for everyone else then gets upset that people are mad and tells them they need to be more patient and understanding.

It seems like your issue has evolved, through your additional responses, to do more with your issue that children have too much access to mature content. That is an issue to be taken up elsewhere, maybe with the FCC or other regulatory entity or even with a moral group to try to impose new or stronger paternalistic laws or whatever. But your barking up the wrong tree here.

Aside from the too much access issue it sucks that your daughter came in and you had an awkward moment. ESO might have plenty of time where it's innocent but it has the M rating because it is not ALL the time and you got caught with your pants down even though it was someone else acting on your screen and you are trying to blame them. Maybe lock the door or set up a minimize application button and be more aware of what you are participating in that your child can be exposed to.

newtinmpls wrote: »

golfer.dub17_ESO wrote: »

Dude, it's an "I owned you" gesture in a game that is played by adults and teenagers. I've yet to meet anyone except yourself offended or traumatized by it, my friends do it to each other all the time.

While I do now realize this behavior is common, your comment does not nominate you for a poster child of mature behavior. If this is what you and your friends consider common and appropriate and enjoyable.... you social standards are quite different than mine.

So... in this fantasy roleplaying game, all of our characters, should be lawful good? (translation for non D&D people, good two shoes). I think not.

Social standards in a fantasy RPG environment, game, fictional entertainment, whatever, don't need to, nor IMHO shouldn't reflect IRL social standards. Such environments are grounds for players, actors, whatever, to expand boundaries and yes this may include "social standards".

Ya know what? Killing someone is very very very very very rude in real life, and some would say totally socially unacceptable.

If you can explain why it's OK in a game then you might see how the context of how the game alters/stretches what is normally acceptable in real life.

ulrik.igerupb16_ESO wrote: »

Doesn't happen that often on Blackwater EU. Sure, there's emoting but mostly it's the more entertaining ones. Lute, sitchair, sweeping, bucket of water, different types of dancing. Perhaps the players on EU are more mature?

I see it all the time on Blackwater EU

TequilaFire wrote: »

Lol, my bad I apologize to Hero that is a good user name.

Polar opposites, actually.

TequilaFire wrote: »

SeñorCinco wrote: »

TequilaFire wrote: »

I find it interesting you complain about morality when your user name is Heromofo.
Just saying...

He's not the OP.

Lol, my bad I apologize to Hero that is a good user name.

Yeah thanks bud lol its meant to show both sides.

Because my moods change like a mad man lol

Hero mofo

TequilaFire wrote: »

I find it interesting you complain about morality when your user name is Heromofo.
Just saying...

Huh? What does mofo mean?

vichoi wrote: »

I'm not talking about the game alone, ESO is one of the best online game i ever played.

However, it's the player habit in the game, almost everytime I dead in PVP, other players will XXXX my corpse.
Last time my daughter was watching me playing PVP and asked me what are they doing on my char's dead body, which i don't know how to explain such a behavior to a girl.

If ESO is a small society, ZOS should be responsible to stop such an ridiculous and offense activities happening in their game.
it's like the broken glass theory, if they do nothing, it's just encourage other player to follow.

Game is rated mature. Your kid shouldn't be watching it. Also, this entire thread is hilarious.