Madness1 wrote: »

I like some of the others have mentioned was primarily a console player (grew up this way), now that I have my own PC that I built myself I would never chose a console over it. I'd also imagine that the console audience will quickly drop off soon after release which will ruin the game by turning it into a wasteland.

Yep. Drop off like Destiny predictions....

(Sarcasm)

I honestly predict a much stronger player base IF DLC hits by September than what PC has.
It's been true all of 2014-2015 for AAA game sales at least. I see no reason why this would differ now that there is no sub

I really am spoiled by the add-ons with the PC, but I also get annoyed when I don't have enlightenment. By playing both console and PC I can switch back and forth when I have enlightenment on one platform and not the other.

If I don't have enlightenment on either platform then it's time to spend some time with my old man

That's a lot of No votes...

PKMN12 wrote: »

Maddhawk wrote: »

I see this whole Console gambit going down in flames. It won't be immediate, but consoles just do not have the necessary tools to allow players to build the proper kind of community an MMORPG requires to be successful in the long haul. If you start making keyboards to work with consoles then they go from being consoles, designed to support up to 4 players in friendly face to face gaming, to being very specialized PCs with limited hardware and no upgradeability.

first off, Keyboards DO mostly work with many consoles
also, FF11 says hi, an MMO longer running then WOW, and is/was on Console, and is still on PC
FF14 ALSO says hi.
DCUO has MOST of its players on console.

Also does no one realize windows 10 and Xbox are going to be closer than ever coming up later this year? By the way there is what 1,000,000,000 MMOs on PC vs 2-3 on consoles right now so which is more likely to fall off?

Also I have regularly played with 6-7 other guys in FIFA this year on Xbox without any issues playing another team of 5/6/7 players. Console might have some short comings but no add-ons allows for an even playing field for even the more casual player who might not spending 20 hours perfecting his setup.

PC has a certain type of player and console another, both fit what the player wants out of their game. While I am disappointed with no text chat in the end with playing primarily through Xbox party chat it will still be a great relaxing time.

golfer.dub17_ESO wrote: »

Not ashamed to claim PC master race.

I don't understand why someone would want to go from playing this on the PC to console. Worse graphics, worse controls, having to pay a console subscription fee, no text chat, probably more time between dlc releases or less of it, and so on.

Not to bash consoles in general (indeed, consoles have moments where they truly shine), but I don't see how this specific type of game is compatible with consoles.

By the way there is what 1,000,000,000 MMOs on PC vs 2-3 on consoles right now so which is more likely to fall off?

Perhaps there's a reason why there's so few...

I'm sure id software was saying the same thing when they tried and failed to break into the console market with Quake. "No one else is doing it, so we're guaranteed to win." Except shooters didn't become popular on consoles until they started radically changing their formula to better adapt to a console's limitations (see Goldeneye and Halo for prime examples).

If your platform can't provide a quality game of a specific genre then it doesn't matter how little direct competition exists on that platform, the game will fail simply because it doesn't play well.

the ONLY thing consoles have is console exclusives.

One of the major draws to having a console was split-screen. The ability to be at a party and all play in the same room and have a good time.

Nowadays developers are all "we better release games that only support 1-2 players offline because we need that space for graphics instead".

Another was being able to simply pop in a disc and play. But now you have to install everything just like you would on a PC.

Developers have forgotten what set consoles apart from PC's. They shoot themselves in the foot by not playing to the inherent strengths a console has.

It is pretty simple me. I prefer playing on my console because I going from a crappy pc barely playing on medium graphics to a more stable system. A system that only has to worry about one type of hardware instead of thousands. Where I do not have to have add ons or worry about other people using add ons to unfairly change the game because they want to make it easier for themselves.

Lower graphics settings, lower frame rate, no text chat. Just to name a few reasons why I won't be

Originally I wanted to get ESO for console but with the delayed release obviously I went PC. Now I couldn't imagine playing ESO without some of the addons I use. I'll be sticking with PC for now, as long as all of the content and such stays the same.

MalodorousIntent wrote: »

I'm transferring to PS4 because I'll just be more comfortable. I have Carpal tunnel syndrome in my left hand, so after just an hour with mouse and keyboard, I can no longer feel my fingers. A controller would be so much better. I also would feel more comfortable leaning back on my couch while playing this.

if you have carpal a controller is as equal painfull as a mouse or keyboard.

While I realize they are the vast minority, I'm honestly surprised that there are even as many people as there are that want to give up playing on a PC to play on a console.

I do understand why many gamers play on consoles (like, the lack of a decent gaming PC), but assuming that anyone who has played this game on PC already has a decent PC to use, I don't really know why anyone would want to give that up to switch to a console.

I won't make fun of people for it, as anyone is free to do whatever they want. I just don't understand it.

Nope,

From what i have seen, console will be running @1080p at 30 fps with very little to no AA at all, no Ambient Occlusion that i can see, much lower quality textures, and lesser levels of HDR. I couldn't handle the amount of jaggies, would make me feel like its poking my eyes out.

I can't even play at @1080p anymore, anything less then 1440 (prefer 2560x1600) is just painful for me (1st world problems, i know)

Also, i have my doubts the Console Hardware is up to the challenge.Especially in PVP. I saw videos of PVP in the console beta, and there were moments of FPS drops below 30 FPS, in what on PC right now, i'd consider smaller skirmishes....and this was with a much, much, much smaller amount of players then their will be at live launch. I can see the console being more of a lagfest then the PC version.

I know all about optimization having read most of the documents out on AMD Mantle, you can't get any closer to the bare metal on AMD hardware then that....it took them quite awhile to fix the bugs in Battlefield 4 to make Mantle work correctly...there is more to it then just optimizing for consoles.....

II'll wait to see the large zergfests on consoles...im curious to see what happens once you get those large zergfests together on console, chances are it will be just as much, perhaps more unplayable then the PC version....if thats the case, console players, will make a mass exodus from this game that will look like the exodus that took place with the PC launch after the 1st 30 days childs play in comparison.

Im just being a realist, if they could fix the lag in Cyrodiil they would have fixed it by now. ZOS doesn't want this lag anymore then any of us do, and if there was a viable fix it would have been done already. Just putting the game on console will not magically fix the lag.

the beta is not really a valid test because the PC version looked and played great in beta/Cyrodiil too, but it doesn't now....Just wait until those large zergballs collide on console....chances are the forums here explode with lots of angry console people...color me UN-optimistic...if they could have fixed the lag issue, they would have done so by now, fixing it on PC would be easier then on console because there are no restrictions. You are restricted in some ways on waht you cna do coding for console vs coding for PC.

We will see i suppose.

Divinius wrote: »

While I realize they are the vast minority, I'm honestly surprised that there are even as many people as there are that want to give up playing on a PC to play on a console.

I do understand why many gamers play on consoles (like, the lack of a decent gaming PC), but assuming that anyone who has played this game on PC already has a decent PC to use, I don't really know why anyone would want to give that up to switch to a console.

I won't make fun of people for it, as anyone is free to do whatever they want. I just don't understand it.

Keep in mind that a lot of us wanted to play on consoles from the beginning. I only bought the PC version as a holdover when they first announced the console transfer program (shortly after the PC launch, at the same time they announced the indefinite console delay). So there are a lot of us console defectors already playing on PC because we didn't want to have to wait over a year for ZOS to get its act together and finally get the console versions out.

I have a good mid-range gaming PC, mind you. But I much prefer to lazy-out on the couch and play most games that way if possible. I spend enough time sitting at my desk staring at my PC when I'm working. When I'm gaming, I like to crash on the couch or in bed.

uberkull wrote: »

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

Nope,
Also, i have my doubts the Console Hardware is up to the challenge.Especially in PVP. I saw videos of PVP in the console beta, and there were moments of FPS drops below 30 FPS, in what on PC right now, i'd consider smaller skirmishes....and this was with a much, much, much smaller amount of players then their will be at live launch. I can see the console being more of a lagfest then the PC version.

I know all about optimization having read most of the documents out on AMD Mantle, you can't get any closer to the bare metal on AMD hardware then that....it took them quite awhile to fix the bugs in Battlefield 4 to make Mantle work correctly...there is more to it then just optimizing for consoles.....

II'll wait to see the large zergfests on consoles...im curious to see what happens once you get those large zergfests together on console, chances are it will be just as much, perhaps more unplayable then the PC version....if thats the case, console players, will make a mass exodus from this game that will look like the exodus that took place with the PC launch after the 1st 30 days childs play in comparison.

Im just being a realist, if they could fix the lag in Cyrodiil they would have fixed it by now. ZOS doesn't want this lag anymore then any of us do, and if there was a viable fix it would have been done already. Just putting the game on console will not magically fix the lag.

the beta is not really a valid test because the PC version looked and played great in beta/Cyrodiil too, but it doesn't now....Just wait until those large zergballs collide on console....chances are the forums here explode with lots of angry console people...color me UN-optimistic...if they could have fixed the lag issue, they would have done so by now, fixing it on PC would be easier then on console because there are no restrictions. You are restricted in some ways on waht you cna do coding for console vs coding for PC.

We will see i suppose.

Finally someone has said it. The beta was not a stress test, and more importantly has not proved Cryodiil will work at all. On console there is frame lag on Destiny, Diablo 3, or any game with a massive amount of spell effects on the screen at one time.

And here is the problem, when the issue hits right after console release, what do you do to hotfix this? The only solution is to push a patch that lowers the graphics settings which are equivalent to LOW on PC. Making the game look like H1Z1...some sandbox game with minecraft characters.

Ouch.....I guess when they have 50+ people standing on a flag spamming Impulse, Bats, Steel Tornado, and Ice Comet....i bet that slide show will look just grand....oh did i mention abilities not working either? that should go over well....

Nestor wrote: »

I am only doing this to help out my mom. Once she buys the game, I will log in and mail her stuff to give her a leg up on the game.

This has to be the quote of the year. Props to you. May you find the epic Unicorn mount that no one else can ever get.