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Why do some still call magicka NB weak?

Araxleon
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Its not weak at all XD
  • cozmon3c_ESO
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    lol awesome, best post ever!
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  • ToRelax
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    The melee ones because it's easier to counter now and the ranged ones because burst > sustain damage right now... I guess.
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    I am stronk!
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    Arms broken and im waiting ER. I need stuff to talk about
  • Shunravi
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    Who calls it weak?
    This one has an eloquent and well thought out response to tha... Ooh sweetroll!
  • Araxleon
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    Shunravi wrote: »
    Who calls it weak?

    All the stam.NBs I feel like they dont know what they doing
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    Ouch Araxleon. How'd you manage that?

    I play a hybrid NB and do ok in PvE.
  • Araxleon
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    Ysne58 wrote: »
    Ouch Araxleon. How'd you manage that?

    I play a hybrid NB and do ok in PvE.

    I was considering making a build video lol
    Recently some great stam builds ive gone against were kosmoko izjiz velconn and someothers. They are great and some have nirn and I tie or win against them.
    Just gotta build magicka right <3
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    Araxleon wrote: »
    Arms broken and im waiting ER. I need stuff to talk about

    I don't think it is weak at all but I think Stamina NB is superior to it, especially in the age of Nirnhoned. Stamina champion synergies right now are just insane. Look at Medium armor and compare it to light. I'm sure surprise attack spam is nice against a dodge roller but man 2 handers just hit so hard.

    I can't wait to fight some good magicka NBs on my NB (once I get to VR14 and throw some Nirn on). I do notice I'm far more effectiver against multiple opponents versus single because I can use dodgeroll animation cancel crit charge spam to pretty much continously fly around the battlefield and use it to ensure my primary target always takes a max bonus damage crit-charge rush as I hop back and forth.




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  • Ezareth
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    Araxleon wrote: »
    Ysne58 wrote: »
    Ouch Araxleon. How'd you manage that?

    I play a hybrid NB and do ok in PvE.

    I was considering making a build video lol
    Recently some great stam builds ive gone against were kosmoko izjiz velconn and someothers. They are great and some have nirn and I tie or win against them.
    Just gotta build magicka right <3

    You must not be using that Robot set when fighting them haha.

    I'd be interested in seeing your stats/build though.
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  • Gizit
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    Magic NB is weak. Compared to its magic counterparts. and also strongly weak compared to a same class Stamina.

    Whats your hardest hitting magic attack, then start to compare it to armor values of a player. I can nirnhood your attacks down greatly can i not?

    however your snipe still hurts.

    Maybe weak is a bad word to use, however if you are looking to do damage, stamina seems the way to go.


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  • Ezareth
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    Gizit wrote: »
    Magic NB is weak. Compared to its magic counterparts. and also strongly weak compared to a same class Stamina.

    Whats your hardest hitting magic attack, then start to compare it to armor values of a player. I can nirnhood your attacks down greatly can i not?

    however your snipe still hurts.

    Maybe weak is a bad word to use, however if you are looking to do damage, stamina seems the way to go.


    Ohh you can hit like a truck as a Magicka NB, as long as your targets aren't wearing 40K+ Spell ress.

    I'm too new to NB to speak from a position of authority and Arax is the best Magicka NB out there so if he says they're better I'm listening (even if I wont take him at his word until he proves it to me ( = ).

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  • Araxleon
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    Ezareth wrote: »
    Araxleon wrote: »
    Arms broken and im waiting ER. I need stuff to talk about

    I don't think it is weak at all but I think Stamina NB is superior to it, especially in the age of Nirnhoned. Stamina champion synergies right now are just insane. Look at Medium armor and compare it to light. I'm sure surprise attack spam is nice against a dodge roller but man 2 handers just hit so hard.

    I can't wait to fight some good magicka NBs on my NB (once I get to VR14 and throw some Nirn on). I do notice I'm far more effectiver against multiple opponents versus single because I can use dodgeroll animation cancel crit charge spam to pretty much continously fly around the battlefield and use it to ensure my primary target always takes a max bonus damage crit-charge rush as I hop back and forth.




    Thing is ezareth ive been doing insanely well verse stam builds but i do know that down the line stam builds will be stronger because up CP paasives.
  • Ifthir_ESO
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    12k+ detonation crits are great btw
  • Gizit
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    I dont believe they are weak, Mine is only vet 2 but quite discouraging starting out, he does not hit like said truck, more like a bug.

    However i run high spell with other toons, and i giggle when some of the magic NB touch me.
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    I havent had issues with many stambuilds only when outnumbered by them, sorc makes me struggle more, since I made edits I out dps stam builds
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    Ezareth wrote: »
    Gizit wrote: »
    Magic NB is weak. Compared to its magic counterparts. and also strongly weak compared to a same class Stamina.

    Whats your hardest hitting magic attack, then start to compare it to armor values of a player. I can nirnhood your attacks down greatly can i not?

    however your snipe still hurts.

    Maybe weak is a bad word to use, however if you are looking to do damage, stamina seems the way to go.


    Ohh you can hit like a truck as a Magicka NB, as long as your targets aren't wearing 40K+ Spell ress.

    I'm too new to NB to speak from a position of authority and Arax is the best Magicka NB out there so if he says they're better I'm listening (even if I wont take him at his word until he proves it to me ( = ).

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  • Synozeer
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    How does magicka NB do vs. sorcs these days?
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  • NukeAllTheThings
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    You want to know the real answer? Stam is FOTM and many rolled that instead of spending time to find the strengths of the new magicka NB. Add in that there aren't too many videos out showing builds and their effectiveness and you have a less informed community that base a class' strengths on what 1 person told another person who heard it from another.

    Put out video/guide of a strong and effective magicka NB build and watch how quick you see that same build out on the field.
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    How does magicka NB do vs. sorcs these days?

    Bleh... I do good but sorcs hit hard, dueling wise i hate sorcs, openworld they are easier.to handle/kill but the toughest enemy (out of all the classes I find a skilled sorc most deadly against magicka NB but thats just what I think
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    You want to know the real answer? Stam is FOTM and many rolled that instead of spending time to find the strengths of the new magicka NB. Add in that there aren't too many videos out showing builds and their effectiveness and you have a less informed community that base a class' strengths on what 1 person told another person who heard it from another.

    Put out video/guide of a strong and effective magicka NB build and watch how quick you see that same build out on the field.

    That happened with my 1.5 NB build. Magicka NB is Honstly better but harder to play
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    Ishammael wrote: »
    I am stronk!

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  • Lesspa
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    have fun fighting 50% sp resist.
  • Gizit
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    Well i watched a video of some Templar a week ago he was clearing out a keep,
    but they were all low level targets, and most of it was him running instead of fighting.
    and everyone was loving it.
    Posted somewhere on these forums.


    its not so much FOTM, its actually what works now? because soon you will see less and less people without the Nirnhoned as soon as the market is more flooded with it. Just like regen being the way to go for sorc's being that hardened ward is just a click away.


    so i am unsure what to believe anymore.
    FOTM of month is survival for a lot of classes
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    Lesspa wrote: »
    have fun fighting 50% sp resist.

    I fought izjiz a stam build with 3 nirn pieces and I won, i also fought a tank with 5. Im starting to think nirn isnt OP lol
  • Erondil
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    Ifthir_ESO wrote: »
    12k+ detonation crits are great btw

    12k?
    Screenshot_20150511_171256.jpg
    rofl.
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    Lesspa wrote: »
    have fun fighting 50% sp resist.

    mark target
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  • Araxleon
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    Erondil wrote: »
    Lesspa wrote: »
    have fun fighting 50% sp resist.

    mark target
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    To be fair mark target is *** compared to 1.5 mark... Still good though I miss the old one
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    Erondil wrote: »
    Ifthir_ESO wrote: »
    12k+ detonation crits are great btw

    12k?
    Screenshot_20150511_171256.jpg
    rofl.

    woooooooooot
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  • Erondil
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    Araxleon wrote: »
    Erondil wrote: »
    Lesspa wrote: »
    have fun fighting 50% sp resist.

    mark target
    RIP.jpg&sa=X&ei=y8lQVYL6Bov8ygPu4IC4Aw&ved=0CAkQ8wc&usg=AFQjCNEq6wxJbske3LFVbb4yoQiCX49k8Q

    To be fair mark target is *** compared to 1.5 mark... Still good though I miss the old one

    noooo
    1) Its bugged and actually reduces spell resist by 10k
    2) Its counted on base spell resist so if someone use 4 nirn=(100% spell resist) nirn is counted after therefore it reduces global spell resist by 20k.


    Etaniel wrote: »
    Erondil wrote: »
    Ifthir_ESO wrote: »
    12k+ detonation crits are great btw

    12k?
    Screenshot_20150511_171256.jpg
    rofl.

    woooooooooot

    Got a 22k crit this morning, literally one shot *_*

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