Charismatic Skill Line

Faugaun · May 2015

This idea was spawned http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/1795241/#Comment_1795241

Ignoring the offspring concept portion of the linked post (unless zos wants the offspring system...which they should....)

I think ZoS aught consider a charisma skill line:

Different titles could be:

Reknown, Charismatic, Socialite, Popularity etc...

It could be an alternative to vampire/ww or a crafting skill, or similar to ledgermain or even similar to undaunted.

Basically it would start, at the same time that a player unlocks Caldwell's silver. The player could then do Charismatic quests...public speaking, networking with other socialites, networks with kinds generals etc...all those charismatic things charismatic people do.

Some ideas for passives:

"Vendor friends" Reduced vendor prices, cause when you buy from a store so does everyone else.

"At ease" your charismatic nature reduces the aggro range due to your friendly appearance.

"Schmooze" you can schmooze the NPCs to shorten quests (like intimidate and pursuade).

Actives:

(The actives would focus around utility skills, by using your charismatic powers you can get weakminded individuals to do your whims)

"Fake Disaster" - your character says something (yes the character would scream something at his foes like "Oh my god it is a Dragon" and point, he could have a whole slew of one liners associated with the skill. The ability would actually distract the enemy, causing loss of aggro and a brief 1 to 5 second stun.

"Challenge" - you yell at an enemy, you and me, I'm the hero of tamriel! If you can beat me surely you will be famous, the ability causes the enemy (or enemies, if you want a group taunt) to attack the hero for a certain amount of time.

"Fan Sacrifice" - a die hard groupie runs out of the bushes jumping between an enemies blow and the hero, this can only occur once every 60 seconds and stops all damage on a blow that would otherwise kill the hero.

" Motivate" - the hero shouts out motivational words causing his allies to gain a buff.

Maybe if the skill line needs a balancing drawback like ww and vamp you could do a 5% speed reduction ( because he is constantly being stopped by fans to sign autographs).

I dunno what passives, actives, drawbacks would you create for a charisma line?

Jaxsun · May 2015

I like it. Needs a new name though. I think they should call it "Eric Roberts".

Faugaun · May 2015

Leroy Jenkins skill line!

BeardLumber · May 2015

I like the idea of this being a support line, I feel like the active skills would have to be more in line with what a Bard might have. General group buffs and such.

I do think the "Schmooze" skill is a little redundant because like you said we already have intimidate and persuade.

Faugaun · May 2015

Maybe instead of the fan jumping out of a bush they could pop out of stealth and the fan could protect anyone in the group from death. That way its group utility based.

Faugaun · May 2015

Could also rename it from fan sacrifice to stalker, lol

Could do a paparazzi ability ..that slows enemy movement speeds due to a flash mob

Faugaun · May 2015

I dunno I know some of this is kinda outlandish, I'm not sure how you would tactfully implement it but the idea behind the line is great

BeardLumber · May 2015

"Ensemble" - Summon a group of musicians to play music granting various buffs. Increased magicka and stam regen or something like that.

And so we can stay in line with the game, when they play it will also be out of sync.

Faugaun · May 2015

Love it!

Faugaun · May 2015

I really like the idea of "flash mob" a crowd suddenly forms around the hero doing.... Where just masses off NPCs appear....this could have rp utility also.

Gidorick · May 2015

I like the core concept. There are a few Guilds that were enacted with the Guilds Act that could hold these sorts of abilities:

Astrologers
Barristers
Minstrels
Prostitiutes

Astrologers could provide players buffs the following day, like a fortune teller.
Barristers skills could involve persuasion skills.
Minstrels could provide support with rallying skills.
Prostitutes could provide immediate buffs to their group.

There's a discussion of the Guilds Act here: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/159824/the-guilds-act-a-discussion

Faugaun · May 2015

Gidorick wrote: »

I like the core concept. There are a few Guilds that were enacted with the Guilds Act that could hold these sorts of abilities:
Astrologers

Barristers

Minstrels

Prostitiutes

Astrologers could provide players buffs the following day, like a fortune teller.
Barristers skills could involve persuasion skills.
Minstrels could provide support with rallying skills.
Prostitutes could provide immediate buffs to their group.

There's a discussion of the Guilds Act here: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/159824/the-guilds-act-a-discussion

Thanks gidorick

Gidorick · May 2015

Faugaun wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

I like the core concept. There are a few Guilds that were enacted with the Guilds Act that could hold these sorts of abilities:
Astrologers

Barristers

Minstrels

Prostitiutes

Astrologers could provide players buffs the following day, like a fortune teller.
Barristers skills could involve persuasion skills.
Minstrels could provide support with rallying skills.
Prostitutes could provide immediate buffs to their group.

There's a discussion of the Guilds Act here: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/159824/the-guilds-act-a-discussion

Thanks gidorick

np mate. It's a great idea! Support skills are one of the many many MANY things ESO really needs to take a look at as it grows.

TheShadowScout · May 2015

I for one would dearly love to see more guilds. Social stuff in guilds would be nifty!

I don't see atrologers being of much use, game-wise, but...

Ministrels? Certainly, they could get a "special weapon" aka musical instrument which cannot do attacks, but "cast" songs for buff/debuff effects... (which then would also serve as their disadvantage, since it means they must switch weapons and have to decide to either use their bardic skills, or their fighting abilities) ...the bard would then have to stay in the back, play to support their group...

Barristers? They could get oratory spells, like the bardic songs, maybe without instrument, but... one could give them their own special tool (a flag to wave? A speaking tube? both? -same disadvantage as the bard-)

Prostitutes? Oh, myyyy. I would love to see the powers that be dare to go there... even though I doubt they'd do it. It would be difficult to implement in any useful way without degrading into an por... uhm... "adult entertainment" flavor.

Personally I would also love to see non-combat worthy "guilds" that merely provide passives (like merchant discount for their speciality, so for example members of the "brewers guild" might sell their "just made to level up" provisioning drinks for extra profit in vendors or writs and such), and perhaps daily missions...

snackrat · May 2015

Sounds like this would make a great Bard support line, actually.

Keep Challenge (more taunts will allow for more tank builds, so a good thing), and expand Motivate into a couple different channelled buff types, like stat regen, attack speed, or crit bonuses.

Vendor Friends and At Ease yes, but Schmooze no. Instead, passives that affect the Charisma/Bard abilities (duration, efficacy, special proc).

PBpsy · May 2015

Sexorz Beast line would be better.

Faugaun · May 2015

Thanks for the info all

Gidorick · May 2015

TheShadowScout wrote: »

Prostitutes? Oh, myyyy. I would love to see the powers that be dare to go there... even though I doubt they'd do it. It would be difficult to implement in any useful way without degrading into an por... uhm... "adult entertainment" flavor.

I was thinking their abilities would all be passive. You know how some people have that thing about them that makes everyone around them perk up? Sort of like that.