It would be great if they brought it back but also allowed the person using the heavy attack to defend themselves in some way

I'm tempted to vote Yes, but I don't know enough about the pros or cons or their reasoning to make an informed vote. However... are you Puerto Rican? Because, uh...

Destro/Resto/Bow Yes
TwoHand/SwordandBoard/DualWield No

you said one of the choices twice.... lol

ANYWAY I personally think bashing heavies should return. Especially in the case of the resto staff. right now anyone using a resto staff can get a butt load of magic back for low risk.

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You should be able to bash everything in this game that has a cast time.

AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »

Bashing heavy attacks never did anything, blocking them did. You bashed things with cast times, which actually does work still, but almost nobody uses the one or two abilities that each class has that have a cast time.

Since the facts of the poll are wrong, I can't see how a vote would make much difference.

1) You're not on the game for long
2) You forget fast
In both cases you shouldnt affirm something like that while you dont know what you're talking about.
Heavy attack were bashable before 1.5ish.

AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »

Erondil wrote: »

AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »

Bashing heavy attacks never did anything, blocking them did. You bashed things with cast times, which actually does work still, but almost nobody uses the one or two abilities that each class has that have a cast time.

Since the facts of the poll are wrong, I can't see how a vote would make much difference.

1) You're not on the game for long
2) You forget fast
In both cases you shouldnt affirm something like that while you dont know what you're talking about.
Heavy attack were bashable before 1.5ish.

Only resto staff, and maybe destro staff and bow. Why would NB need such a blatant buff, since they would be the only class still able to land a WB as they use WB from stealth. NBs are already too strong and need some serious re-balancing in the stealth and fear department.

I think your premise is wrong, adding it back won't take any modicum of skill to execute. Not interrupting is just a sign of having no skill. All but the worst players will interrupt every heavy attack, more so with ad-dons that tell you exactly when to do it. This is just a thinly veiled plea for yet another unnecessary NB buff.

Such nonsense, use cc, LOS, confuse your enemies - you were always able to use heavy attacks, you were even able to use Wrecking Blow when it had a longer cast time and was interruptible, and not just from stealth but in duels against top players. Needs some skill for sure but that's what we want, or so I still hope...

AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »

Erondil wrote: »

AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »

Bashing heavy attacks never did anything, blocking them did. You bashed things with cast times, which actually does work still, but almost nobody uses the one or two abilities that each class has that have a cast time.

Since the facts of the poll are wrong, I can't see how a vote would make much difference.

1) You're not on the game for long
2) You forget fast
In both cases you shouldnt affirm something like that while you dont know what you're talking about.
Heavy attack were bashable before 1.5ish.

Only resto staff, and maybe destro staff and bow. Why would NB need such a blatant buff, since they would be the only class still able to land a WB as they use WB from stealth. NBs are already too strong and need some serious re-balancing in the stealth and fear department.

I think your premise is wrong, adding it back won't take any modicum of skill to execute. Not interrupting is just a sign of having no skill. All but the worst players will interrupt every heavy attack, more so with ad-dons that tell you exactly when to do it. This is just a thinly veiled plea for yet another unnecessary NB buff.

Kronosphere wrote: »

no way. heavy attacks are already hard enough to land on a skilled player, theyd be 100% useless on non staff weapons if they put this back. dont scale pvp around bad players who just stand there and get hit by everything. the fact u can block it and it do crap all damage after all that windup is balance enough.

Right now wrecking blow unbashable is stupid, there is no counter for magicka specs (and interupt in les than 1sec isnt as easy as you might think) and some ppl spam their staff heavy attacks to get magicka in melee, I should be able to do something to counter them and stop feeding their ressource.
When wrecking blow and heavy attacks were bashable, months ago, not a lot of people were used to interrupt them, because it needs a good reaction time (especialy in 1vX situation) and cost a bit of stamina. Interrupt them needed a good reaction time and not a lot of people were interrupting them.More than that, the bash cost is really high in 1.6 so we would have to decide between keep stamina or interrupt the ennemy attack. wb and heavy attacks unbashable reduces the skill needed to be good, while this one was already not so high.

demonlkojipub19_ESO wrote: »

I'm certain there are other attacks you can use to interrupt a heavy attack, like shield bash and several other stun/disorient abilities.

Ofc those are named "cc" but then comes the cc immunity...