PvP weird Lag in Cyrodiil, needs to be adressed (na thornblade)

Kupoking · May 2015

It happened in NA Thornblade. AD took control of most of the map. Deposed and emp, crowned a new one, stole 2 scrolls...

So far, no lag. AD + EP pop locked. There was even a few blues on the field. They even picked up a scroll of their own. All that lag free.

Then at around 21:15 eastern, some extremely wierd type of lag started happening. Abilities not working, damage not recording properly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVItTWE7Lrc

I had this fight in which nobody seemed to be taking damage. Then I start attacking one random enemy using damaging abilities on him. He does the same. We are not taking any damage. The all of the sudden, servers decided to start working again and all the damage recorded at once. I end up dying, then my opponent ends up dying of the damage I gave him after I was dead, with a good 1-2 second delay. I was not using any dots abilities to damage him so it had to be the damage of my puncturing sweep.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSK8nvkln80

After AD took Aleswell and I was done scouting Bleaker, I wanted to suicide to get back into another one of AD's owned keep. But guards would not attack me. I poke at them with my resto staff and there was no damage.

Report in zone was were describing a big battle between EP and AD deep in AD's territory. Most of AD was not in that fight since my guild had 3 full raids that was transiting from Aleswell to Roebeck.

Here I am, across the map, lagging like hell. Not able to kill anything or be killed. Picked up a fight with an EP player. Abilities were not working most of the time.

But then here is where things get extremely wierd. A little bit before midnight, after having defended Roebeck keep for 2 hours of relentless attacks without any lag. This happened.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTh5WBHueGs

Tons of lag. Our abilities were not working. I could not get my proxy detonation to go off for some reason, neither my breaths of life. Yet, my ennemy's abilities seemed to work pretty well. Oh and note that ALL my add ons were disabled ( and, yes, I did restart my router earlier in the day )

I turn on the Campain tab, and you know what? EP and AD aren't pop locked anymore.

Note that similar fights happened in other servers. The result were: A- no lag. B- extreme lag that made lots of people disconnect/crash/freezing at the same time. No such thing as abilities not working at all or people able to walk around enemies w/o taking damage.

Yet that night, almost nobody crashed. Well not on out side at least. Exept 2 of our guys who admittedly have bad computed that can't seem to handle too much shiny effects on their screen.

Its been 2 months since Paul Sage's Update on Cyrodiil's performance post was out : http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/157157/update-on-cyrodiil-performance/p1

Since then, other than AP buffs from delves bosses and Cold Fire siege, any solutions regarding this? What happened to the promises of having large scale battles and hundreds of players on the screen? Should be remove the first 'M' letter of MMORPG reguarding PvP in this game?

Karamis_Vimardon · May 2015

Welcome to Cyrodiil.

EIGHTS · May 2015

You're really LAG.
That's Thornblade. It's normal.

MisterBigglesworth · May 2015

Hmmm that sure is a spooky mystery.
Perhaps special agent Anonymous Elf can help us crack the case!

Snit · May 2015

I was in the middle of all that, and it was fun yellowing up the map again. Then, we all got reminded of why we left lagblade.

"Bullet Time" is a bug, not a feature.

Johngo0036 · May 2015

i am in IT, Development to be precise,
What i dont understand is that the whole day we play, all factions locked no problem,

Come around 5pm GMT the REALLY bad lag begins,
I have a feeling that there are processes that run in the background like backups of something that bring this major lag to cyrodiil,

Kupoking · May 2015

markgd88nrb18_ESO wrote: »

Welcome to Cyrodiil.

Why would you welcome me. Ive been on Cyrodiil since beta.

kevlarto_ESO · May 2015

Nothing weird about that lag, happens on every campaign I have played in, same thing you described op, the other day on Chilrend was having some great battles then slowly can't place siege, can use any skill that has a cast time, health bars are not moving, just a typical day in the park when to many players show up at one place.

charley222 · May 2015

welcome to eso

the same probleme from release
anyway why i`m wasting time here ??? because everyone know nothing is fix in this game
have a good day bye

Davadin · May 2015

nothing new. it's Cyrodiil. it's laggy.

Pallmor · May 2015

Lag in Cyrodiil? Wow, that is unusual.

Kupoking · May 2015

Ok sooooo everyone just accept their fate n just play pve?

Excuse me for trying to change things then. Move back to your quest hubs.

Garion · May 2015

If this is the first time you have experienced this shite then you are so incredibly lucky.
For most of us, it's a daily experience.

Kupoking · May 2015

Garion wrote: »

If this is the first time you have experienced this shite then you are so incredibly lucky.
For most of us, it's a daily experience.

No in fact it isnt. I have been around since beta and been commenting the subject since then providing feedback, suggestion n solution.

And this is what I expected from this thread. Discussion and not *** comment of people who prefer to roll on them side and die whenever there is a problem.

You are fine with the lag in cyrodiil? You accepted your fate and prefered to step away from it like a loser? Good for you. I have not, for a year, stopped demanding changes and will not Stop

In other words, keep your smartass 'welcome to cyrodiil' posts to yourselves. Cause in fact those comment arent smart at all. Perhaps its a bit too much to ask for, intelligence?

Garion · May 2015

houimetub17_ESO wrote: »

Garion wrote: »

If this is the first time you have experienced this shite then you are so incredibly lucky.
For most of us, it's a daily experience.

No in fact it isnt. I have been around since beta and been commenting the subject since then providing feedback, suggestion n solution.

And this is what I expected from this thread. Discussion and not *** comment of people who prefer to roll on them side and die whenever there is a problem.

You are fine with the lag in cyrodiil? You accepted your fate and prefered to step away from it like a loser? Good for you. I have not, for a year, stopped demanding changes and will not.

In other words, keep your smartass 'welcome to cyrodiil' posts to yourselves. Cause in fact those comment arent smart at all. Perhaps its a bit too much to ask for, intelligence?

Wow, that was an arsey response.

Did I say I was happy to accept the lag? No. Did I say "welcome to Cyrodiil"? No. So I am not quite sure why you felt the need to comment in the way you did. I was merely observing that this is quite a frequent problem for people, rather than just a "weird" event that happens once in a while.

Chill the *** out.

WhiskeyJac · May 2015

well no one is happy about it , we have been ranting on this forums as long as you have regarding the LAG , but ZOS seems oblivious to these , they have been saying that they are working on the lag for about a year now and nothing has changed and i can see atleast 1 thread daily comaplaining to ZOS about the lag but nothing , so people have given up and are just waiting for ZOS to do something about it

Sylvyr · May 2015

houimetub17_ESO wrote: »

Garion wrote: »

If this is the first time you have experienced this shite then you are so incredibly lucky.
For most of us, it's a daily experience.

No in fact it isnt. I have been around since beta and been commenting the subject since then providing feedback, suggestion n solution.

And this is what I expected from this thread. Discussion and not *** comment of people who prefer to roll on them side and die whenever there is a problem.

You are fine with the lag in cyrodiil? You accepted your fate and prefered to step away from it like a loser? Good for you. I have not, for a year, stopped demanding changes and will not Stop

In other words, keep your smartass 'welcome to cyrodiil' posts to yourselves. Cause in fact those comment arent smart at all. Perhaps its a bit too much to ask for, intelligence?

Demanding is not allowed on these forums.

PS: There comes a point when if you've been campaigning for so long and it keeps falling on deaf ears that you start to look like a rabid crazy person that doesn't get it... But keep on fighting the good fight. I just think another game will come out with ESO's vision of PvP utilizing a better engine before ZoS can. Don't exactly have my hopes up given what has been said from official sources that it's buried deep in the code and hardware improvements won't help.

Valymer · May 2015

IMO we should give up on Cyrodiil being "fixed" in the sense that we actually mean when we say that word -- huge battles but lag free (as advertised).

What we should really hope for is smaller-scale pvp, because if you think that ZOS has the resources to rewrite large portions of the game code (which is what it would take to fix Cyrodiil, I'm guessing) you are deluding yourself.

What they can do? Give us pvp on a smaller scale a la battlegrounds or even arena (and dueling). That is realistic. That is feasible.

Battles with hundreds of people all using abilities and siege in a lag-free Cyrodiil? I highly doubt it.

Raash · May 2015

its a feature now so just do as they say and spread out

firstdecan · May 2015

Do what everyone else is doing - stop paying for the game, don't buy crown store items, and keep posting \ reminding ZoS as to why you're withholding money.

ZoS' next big move is the console cash grab, so don't expect any significant improvements until then. Of course, then they will release the DLCs they developed during the paid beta, which we will call cash grab 3.0 (1.0 = Paid Beta, 2.0 = Console Release). To be honest, ZoS probably won't do anything, they seem to have given up on fixing the game and making it the fun experience they promised.

@houimetub17_ESO - I like your post, it goes as far as to correlate big action with lag effects (or show a lack of correlation). It is interesting anecdotally, but unfortunately we can't account for all the inputs \ outputs to their server(s). I'm not trying to discourage you from posting detailed \ methodical feedback, it's just that without knowing how the server works there's too many possibilities as to what the issue could be. You only have the tools to notice a subset of what's going on, and don't have insight as to how the server works (not an admonishment, we're all in the same boat). I think the feedback is good, I think it points out some definite inconsistencies in the user experience, I'm just not sure what ZoS is going to do with it (if anything).

Raizin · May 2015

but this game has no major issues running since beta guys, wtf u talking about :O

Sacadon · May 2015

Johngo0036 wrote: »

i am in IT, Development to be precise,
What i dont understand is that the whole day we play, all factions locked no problem,

Come around 5pm GMT the REALLY bad lag begins,
I have a feeling that there are processes that run in the background like backups of something that bring this major lag to cyrodiil,

backup maybe running at this time

vichoi · May 2015

"huge battles but lag free (as advertised)."

Did they really advertised this?

Never played a game lag and crash like ESO!

However, the game is still great, I think the game crashed 200+ times but I still love it.
Just hope Cyrodill can run better in console version, then I'll not touch the pc version one more time.

bell.weather122rwb17_ESO · May 2015

ZOS response
WHO CARES LOL !

Bouvin · May 2015

ZoS response to lag in Cyrodil.