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Suggested changes for templar's Spear Shards.
yogarogue
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Just offering some quick and simple suggestions to change templar's spear shards ability to help improve in areas it is lacking for PVP encounters.
- Firstly, templar have very little access to AoE CC compared to other classes, allowing the ability to stun/disorient more than one enemy upon impact would help bring more control to templar gameplay; a 6 second aoe disorient is long, I know. So to counter balance this the disorient / stun effect (from blazing spear) could be reduced. Or consider keeping it to one disorient / stun but immobilizing all enemies within the shards, this would offer a great synergy with biting jabs seeing as biting jabs can be difficult to use towards moving targets.
- Secondly, allow the templar to pick up his or her own spear, effectively restoring stamina or magicka (if theyve morphed to luminous shards) for themselves.
- Also consider just making the ability a frontal cone attack to make it more dynamic during fights where one has to act quickly, the current ability creates a HUGE gap between the time that the user decides he is going to use the ability to when the ability actually goes into effect.
Edited by yogarogue on May 7, 2015 1:02PM - Firstly, templar have very little access to AoE CC compared to other classes, allowing the ability to stun/disorient more than one enemy upon impact would help bring more control to templar gameplay; a 6 second aoe disorient is long, I know. So to counter balance this the disorient / stun effect (from blazing spear) could be reduced. Or consider keeping it to one disorient / stun but immobilizing all enemies within the shards, this would offer a great synergy with biting jabs seeing as biting jabs can be difficult to use towards moving targets.
- Secondly, allow the templar to pick up his or her own spear, effectively restoring stamina or magicka (if theyve morphed to luminous shards) for themselves.
- Also consider just making the ability a frontal cone attack to make it more dynamic during fights where one has to act quickly, the current ability creates a HUGE gap between the time that the user decides he is going to use the ability to when the ability actually goes into effect.
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C0pp3rhead✭✭✭✭I have a suggestion: remove the delay between casting the ability and the spear hitting the ground. That's all this spell needs."Things which are alike in nature grow to look alike, and the speaking stones have lain a long time lookin' at the sun. Some believe they descend with the lightning, but I believe they are on the ground and are projected downward by the bolt."
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Saft✭✭✭C0pp3rhead wrote: »I have a suggestion: remove the delay between casting the ability and the spear hitting the ground. That's all this spell needs.
Whaaat Zenimax cannot implement a templar skill without either A: Delay or B: Cast time / channeling
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ArRashid✭✭✭✭A 4 seconds long AoE root would be enough. Those delays and cast times are killing templars though.
Spear is a good spell to use if you want to help your tank in a fight, but otherwise it's amost unusably bad. And using the spell just for the sake of synergy seems silly, unless they at least boost the synergy to be more useful.0 -
maryriv✭✭✭✭C0pp3rhead wrote: »I have a suggestion: remove the delay between casting the ability and the spear hitting the ground. That's all this spell needs.
Whaaat Zenimax cannot implement a templar skill without either A: Delay or B: Cast time / channeling
That's fine, as long as the power of the spell is compensated accordingly, so far it hasn't been though.0 -
yogarogue✭✭C0pp3rhead wrote: »I have a suggestion: remove the delay between casting the ability and the spear hitting the ground. That's all this spell needs.
Would be nice to see it changed into a frontal cone attack this way...0 -
ThatHappyCat✭✭✭✭✭I think Spear Shards already does enough (single target CC, ally stamina restore, AoE DPS). If Templars are to get an AoE CC it should be in a different skill, e.g. Solar Barrage (which currently is made somewhat redundant by Spear Shards).0 -
technohic✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I actually find use for bother versions of spear shards. One is not blockable mez. The other stuns which is blockable but also adds a little extra DPS and I like it to pin at least one target before hitting nova. Both provide decent synergies useful to any friendlies around.
Going for AOE ranged mez or stun might be a little too much. If they were to tweak it, I wouldn't mind an AOE root in its place for a couple of seconds to try to keep more targets in the damage but I wouldn't want to drastically change the ability from an AOE to a cone or anything like that. Maybe it could go on a target like Nova now does to save the extra click.Edited by technohic on May 7, 2015 3:38PM0 -
Baphomet✭✭✭✭✭
✭Basicly what the OP said.
There should be no cap on the stun/disorient - you don't see talons or streak only working on a single target, now do you?
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TheSunAlsoRises✭✭✭i don't agree with the idea of giving templars an AOE CC/root because this takes away diversity in the game. there are already sorcs and DKs that can do AOE roots. or worst case, use a bow and bombard.
templars are the best healers and that's a role i'm happy to have. being able to heal so well AND root is just too much, imo. in group pvp that's what you'd have a sorc or DK with you to use their roots (if that's what you're lacking).
TLDR: i say keep spear shards as it is.No man is an Iland, intire of it selfe0