Obviously you've put more thought and work into this build than I have, but if you rely on Overload so much, aren't your two 5 piece set bonuses partially going to waste?

Snit wrote: »

Good video. There are two things I have learned from your vids in the past, both of which I adopted into my playstyle:

• Mines are terrific to provide a mobile redoubt
• Ball of Lightning should not be used more than every 6 seconds, and positioning is important to make it work

Watching this one, I'm shocked by how much success you have with Overload. I love it in large group situations, where I know the target is unlikely to see it coming. In smaller group situations, I have not been able to achieve much with it.

Also, I can't believe you play with that little health and that much cloth I notice you run Defensive Rune in some specs, but even then, you must eat a lot of Surprise Snipe Deaths.

@Snit

I had a lot of my earlier footage in that video that I didn't want to trashcan like I did a good 2-3 videos worth of pre-1.6 footage so I held back some of more current footage for the next video I made (if there is a next one, those things take me way too much time, I spent a good 20 hours tweaking those first 30 seconds to get it to look the way I wanted).

I also want to switch to Combat Cloud for the more visible text, FTC doesn't display very well when my 2560x1600 footage gets converted to youtube 1080p format and I want to finish my shield mod or modify an existing one to my tastes (I've seen one in one video that looks similar to how I want it to look).

The skills in my build that I posted above are what I'm running currently. The Boundless Storm gives a much needed Physical bonus and another 12K+ to my spell resistance due to the Nirnhoned stacking (ridiculous). I've gradually modified a few of my skills as I've watched my footage and analyzed what is more useful. I found that Mana detonation for me was only good against dodge rollers and that I could do almost as much damage with resto staff heavy attack / velocious curse rotations that increase my ultimate generation instead. I also dropped Dampen magick for efficient purge. In this day of constant siege, CC, invisible oil, etc, being able to spam Efficient purge is insanely powerful, even moreso in group. In my group now I call myself a "Purgebot" and what I do is stick on the point of attack and do nothing but spam purge nonstop to keep all negative effects off of my group. I can do this for several minutes without running out of magicka which is insane.

On the Daedric mines, not only do they make a NB/DK stam user (who isn't stacking full Nirnhoned) hesitate charging you and play more defensively, they also actually heal you when people run into them. They have a huge cost but since I have them slotted into my overload bar the cost is negligible then since my primary offense there is overload.

I use defensive rune liberally as it is my first line of defense against Snipers and crit charge/wrecking blow gankers. It procs the moment the first ability hits me and there is really no way to stop it unless they're smart and pop a immovable pot or something before attacking me. Since it lasts such a ridiculously long time it is almost a no-brainer for any sorc and it even works on your mount and will proc when you're hit by enemy siege! This helps with the low health scenario but if I let my shield drop for a moment I become 1-shot-able. It's actually been a couple of weeks since I was killed solo by a bow-sniper because of this. Then again this is probably because I haven't run into the guy who was doing this a lot to me who hits you with 5 attacks in less than a second via macro or whatever the hell they do to make that possible.

The scenes where I'm using a destro staff are when I run into enemy players while CP grinding or in the case of the 3 in Cropsford are where they tried to gank me while I was trying to sell my trashmob loot. I'm terrible with a destro staff as you can probably tell by the way I block-cast with it instead of animation-cancel light attack. I was never the best light-attacker.

I'm going to move some of these comments into my build section above.

Juraigr wrote: »

hamon wrote: »

this forum section is nothing but sorc/NB videos , where we,re all to look at how good they are at wading through multiple players... but we,re absolutely not to form the opinion that sorcs are in any way too strong or nb burst is a bit severe..

its all down to uber players, compare the number of sorc videos to templar and DK ones since 1.6 landed....

sort of reminds me when it was nothing but dk's who felt they had enough footage of themselves looking awesome to flood the same forum section with videos of them selves wading through loads of folk...

funny thing was back then sorcs and nb's were all quite sure that dk's were indeed to powerfull then.

kind of ironic

im still posting and im still op!! i hope

Obviously, even the worst DK EU can kill multiple people...

Erock25 wrote: »

Obviously you've put more thought and work into this build than I have, but if you rely on Overload so much, aren't your two 5 piece set bonuses partially going to waste?

Why you no answer this? It is because you don't use Archmage and just wanted to shoot up the price isn't it, right? GOTCHA EZARETH!

Erock25 wrote: »

Erock25 wrote: »

Obviously you've put more thought and work into this build than I have, but if you rely on Overload so much, aren't your two 5 piece set bonuses partially going to waste?

Why you no answer this? It is because you don't use Archmage and just wanted to shoot up the price isn't it, right? GOTCHA EZARETH!

I kinda wonder the same. I have found that for me personally anything above 1.5-16k regen is being wasted. It means I'm sitting on a ton of magicka I'm never using and my burst damage or shield strength (scales off max mgk) suffers for it, making me more prone to damage bursts. I very very occasionally (when being severely chased) break LOS and channel so Dark Exchange, but that's about it.

I guess that's the beauty of it. Everyone tries stuff and ultimately finds a build they are comfortable with. Some like max spell dmg + magicka glass cannons, others like sustain builds and others like sth in the middle. It's whatever works for everyone.

Why not post when i kill you?? jk but I need to start recording stuff and posting it Maybe a 1v1 with you and me too

Ezykil wrote: »

Why not post when i kill you?? jk but I need to start recording stuff and posting it Maybe a 1v1 with you and me too

@ezkil
Who are you and what class? I don't duel but if you've ganked me congrats, it's not really hard given how buggy and unresponsible the vet campaigns are right now. I do open field PvP not duels, you're welcome to play in my domain any time you'd like and by all means please record.

Xeven wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

When you get "infinite" resources you end up utilizing them in ways you wouldn't think of otherwise.

Lol what? When you "get infinite resources" you've traded so much that you have to lean on overload to actually do any damage. Except that doesnt work unless you're shooting them in the back or they're just really bad. There is absolutely nothing worthwhile you can do with 3k magiregen that I can't with 1700. In the EXTREMELY rare cases where you got away with those few extra bolt escapes, you're standing in the middle of nowhere recasting lol rune cage while I've already respawned and killed 2 more zerglings.

Ezareth wrote: »

When I'm under attack I'm constantly bolt escaping around in a circle

Lmfao!

Ezareth wrote: »

The scaling of shields on max magicka is too small for that to be a major consideration for me

It's hard to take you seriously when you derp like this. You get 1 hardened ward hit point for every ~3 magicka, and 1 spell powers worth of damage for every ~10 magicka ON TOP OF MORE SUSTAIN. It's fantastic. You can do the math behind the mechanics all day long, but you have no concept of the in game practical value of these numbers. At some point you need to step away from the speadsheet and look at your playstyle. 3k magiregen is bad. Stop bolting in a circle.

Ezareth wrote: »

I'm terrible with a destro staff as you can probably tell by the way I block-cast with it instead of animation-cancel light attack. I was never the best light-attacker.

You are by far the best overload light attacker. ...

@Xeven

I don't trade much at all actually, that's the point of being a min/maxer. I maximize everything I want and minimize the things I don't. Who cares if I "lean" on Overload, elemental damage is the entire design of my build and Power Overload scales far better than any other ability a sorc has, bar now. I see Sorcs "lean" on Crystal fragment procs and "lean" on Crushing shock all the time. However, I use plenty of damage abilities outside of overload, if you've ever seen me play you'd know that. And yes zipping around the battlefield in large circles, always spreading and isolating my targets is my strategy and I designed my build to accommodate it. I use terrain to my advantage and play the edges to minimize the damage I take Any class that chases me ends up dying unless I'm zerged down including Sorcs.

You think relying on shields and spamming shields to tank your attacks and damage abilities to burst your opponents down is a somehow superior strategy? How much stamina regen are you running? I guarantee it isn't the 1300 I have. The point of 3000 Magicka regen is I don't have to rely on Magicka Cost Reduction enchants and can use Stamina cost reduction enchants to their full effect which pretty much no other class or build is doing. How many times can you break free with Food? Can you sustain against a fear spammer and break free (when not bugged) every 8 seconds perpetually? I can, and I can dodge roll whenever I need to as well. That's part of the power of my build and I don't need your approval to know how effective it is, I only need to look at the hate tells I get while playing as confirmation of that.

Xeven wrote: »

I think you unerestimate invuln pots. It gives you 7 tics of stam regen breathing room, and allows you to burst down one opponent while tanking another with impunity. You are vulnerable to CC in short 30 seond windows between pots, in which time only 3 CC are even possible. You can also pair invuln with detect and magicka, which is awesome VS NB (or anyone else for that matter). Worst case you bolt out for 4 seconds when your stam is low, then come back for round 2.

You are trading a lot. Your mundus stone, 10k magicka, 3k shield, real food, or a buttload of spell power should you go that rout.

You mean immovable pots I'm assuming but I've considered them. The extra 20% magicka regen for me works out to 600 magicka return though(I'm at 2400 magicka regen without a pot up and only 2200 or so when I'm on my Resto Staff bar). It may have its uses depending on the fight but waiting to use a pot in general for a situation is not as desirable for me. I keep Tri-pots rolling 24/7 for the 20% multi stat regen in addition to the extra stats.

As I mentioned I'm planning on switching out Attronach back to Apprentice now that I have enough Magicka regen from CPs, so that is the next optimal choice for me. I've considered running martial knowledge and stuff like others and while 2-shotting everyone may be fun at times I prefer my own playstyle where I'm like Yoda on the battlefield.

I have 2 Spellpower stat bonuses in my setup so I'm not totally ignoring damage (or magicka at 28).

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

You mean immovable pots I'm assuming but I've considered them. The extra 20% magicka regen for me works out to 600 magicka return though(I'm at 2400 magicka regen without a pot up and only 2200 or so when I'm on my Resto Staff bar). It may have its uses depending on the fight but waiting to use a pot in general for a situation is not as desirable for me. I keep Tri-pots rolling 24/7 for the 20% multi stat regen in addition to the extra stats.

Any idea why that happens? Is your sword nirnhorned? Is it linked to spell resistance somehow?

I have the same issue switching from nirn destro to precise resto.

I have more regen on my s&b or destro than I do on my resto staff and it buffles me.

Prob Alliance war support skill giving +10% mana regen on his sw/sh bar.

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

Ishammael wrote: »

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

You mean immovable pots I'm assuming but I've considered them. The extra 20% magicka regen for me works out to 600 magicka return though(I'm at 2400 magicka regen without a pot up and only 2200 or so when I'm on my Resto Staff bar). It may have its uses depending on the fight but waiting to use a pot in general for a situation is not as desirable for me. I keep Tri-pots rolling 24/7 for the 20% multi stat regen in addition to the extra stats.

Any idea why that happens? Is your sword nirnhorned? Is it linked to spell resistance somehow?

I have the same issue switching from nirn destro to precise resto.

I have more regen on my s&b or destro than I do on my resto staff and it buffles me.

Prob Alliance war support skill giving +10% mana regen on his sw/sh bar.

Nope, I run no Alliance War skills on my bar. Though it could be mage's guild passive too, need to check that.

It is because I run Purge on the S&B(10%). Mages guild passive is only 2% but it could explain it being lower on one bar.

Hi Ezareth, have you notice all your weapon passive not working after activiate and de-activiate overload ultimate?

If you rely on overload so much, all your weapon passive will be wasted even you're not using it.

edit: ok, i found that you have to swap weapon after using overload to make the passive work again, don't know it's bug or intended.

bah..annoying...sorc..for

resistance
mobility
damage



imho

vichoi wrote: »

Hi Ezareth, have you notice all your weapon passive not working after activiate and de-activiate overload ultimate?

If you rely on overload so much, all your weapon passive will be wasted even you're not using it.

edit: ok, i found that you have to swap weapon after using overload to make the passive work again, don't know it's bug or intended.

The passives don't worry while in overload but your weapon traits *will* work in overload. This is why a double Nirnhoned dual wield overload is just crazy right now, I'm tempted to try a glass cannon build but it has always seemed so one-sided to me.

Xeven wrote: »

Just wanted to personally thank you Ezareth. The number of ball of light overload regen sorcs has went up an order of magnitude since this public announcement, and likewise so has my killboard.

@Xeven The number of bad sorcs period have went up as so many nightblades rolled sorc and realized the grass is not greener ( =

My Nightblade on BWB is having a blast crit-charge >fear-spamming> wrecking blow destroying every player wearing a dress. I can't wait until vet levels when they all aren't sitting on 30K HPs haha ( =

Makkir wrote: »

@ezareth we're running mostly same stuff looks like except I have to use Alteration Mastery set pieces since I don't have Arch Mage set yet...and using 3p healer's jewelry since I spent all my 500k AP this week on bags for the Arch pieces I need. I actually been toying around with 5p Seducer and 5pc Whitestrakes this week and while it's been I think I'd rather eat the lower health and go back to the seducers/alteration.

One note about the Resto bar...I actually took out Ward and replaces with healing springs. Mostly to troll the leaderboard and AP gains but for some reason spamming it is keeping me at full health all the time.

Good seeing ya on haderous this week although I spent much of last night running around with 0 durability armor and not being able to figure out why I was dying quicker than usual

Lucky you! I spent over 5 million AP to get my full VR14 Archmage set ) =

I looked at the Alteration mastery set, the bonuses are nice but since I'm running stam-cost reduction enchants the benefits of another additive 8% cost reduction to magicka is just so strong.

Yeah healing springs is amazing, always has been especially in group play but for survivability healing ward is still king.

I spent a bit of time on Had playing around with Destro staff. I'm using Force pulse instead of Crushing Shock, I need to switch that over. It's pretty OP versus other sorcs and for damage in general, I can't kill a half decent Ball lightning sorc right now who is running Destro/Crushing shock because it bugs BoL so much I'm always playing defensively.

Also switch my attronach mundus back to apprentice. I'm not having Magicka issues but I can't Bolt escape nearly as much. My MR is now 2200 on S&B/2416 with Tri-stat instead of 2600/3016.

Great fight! was really close