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Player Suggestion: The Mirrored City [Neutral Hub - Small Scale PvP & Player Housing]
As the war rages on and Molag Bal threatens all of Tamriel, the three Alliances decide a neutral ground is required.
The best and brightest from each Alliance gather, creating a mirrored version of the Imperial City.
As the city is a mere copy of the Imperial City it is free from war, free from anguish, and free from much of the destruction.
This neutral ground could be where many requested features are contained.
Player Housing:
As the city is created entirely from magic, players can walk in the same door and be transported to different instances of the same house. How housing could work from here is an entirely separate matter.
The Imperial Colosseum:
A place where players can duke it out in 1v1, 4v4, or 12v12.
This would be instanced, similar to housing. You would gather your fighters and only those participating would be seen. Other players fighting would have other instances of the arena.
Players could also watch the fight by joining a random match or joining a specific match by referencing any of the participating fighers' name or username.
Multiple versions of the arena could be offered, each with different terrain/ obstacles. This supports various play styles and could even support other types of matches, such as Capture & Defend or Capture-the-Flag.
Marketplace:
Each Alliance would control 1/3 of outlying city.
Here there would be a marketplace for each alliance. Similar to guild stores, you can only sell from your own alliance but buy from any of them. You could freely explore another alliance's territory in the city.
The center of the city would be controlled by whomever is in control of the real-world Imperial City. It could offer exclusive shops and items, among other features that are up for discussion.
I imagine the city looking similar to Limbo, from DmC.
The city would be [mildly] distorted and have rubble and other effects from the real city bleeding though.
Here's some sample images as reference:
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It could also include some more distorted platforming areas, if people are interested. Perhaps as races with rewards?
Edited by c.p.garrett1993_ESO on May 4, 2015 3:58PM The best and brightest from each Alliance gather, creating a mirrored version of the Imperial City.
As the city is a mere copy of the Imperial City it is free from war, free from anguish, and free from much of the destruction.
This neutral ground could be where many requested features are contained.
Player Housing:
As the city is created entirely from magic, players can walk in the same door and be transported to different instances of the same house. How housing could work from here is an entirely separate matter.
The Imperial Colosseum:
A place where players can duke it out in 1v1, 4v4, or 12v12.
This would be instanced, similar to housing. You would gather your fighters and only those participating would be seen. Other players fighting would have other instances of the arena.
Players could also watch the fight by joining a random match or joining a specific match by referencing any of the participating fighers' name or username.
Multiple versions of the arena could be offered, each with different terrain/ obstacles. This supports various play styles and could even support other types of matches, such as Capture & Defend or Capture-the-Flag.
Marketplace:
Each Alliance would control 1/3 of outlying city.
Here there would be a marketplace for each alliance. Similar to guild stores, you can only sell from your own alliance but buy from any of them. You could freely explore another alliance's territory in the city.
The center of the city would be controlled by whomever is in control of the real-world Imperial City. It could offer exclusive shops and items, among other features that are up for discussion.
I imagine the city looking similar to Limbo, from DmC.
The city would be [mildly] distorted and have rubble and other effects from the real city bleeding though.
Here's some sample images as reference:
It could also include some more distorted platforming areas, if people are interested. Perhaps as races with rewards?
Player Suggestion: The Mirrored City [Neutral Hub - Small Scale PvP & Player Housing] 38 votes
Yes, I would like to see something similar to this.
68%
26 votes
No, I would not like to see anything like this.
23%
9 votes
Other (Please Explain.)
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Athas24✭✭✭✭Other (Please Explain.)I wouldn't likely be down for the marketplace idea. The mirror image concept seems a bit far fetched. I think it would be better served improving upon the concept of Eyvea and building a neutral city there where all's safe. Access to the city would then come after a character has unlocked it through the mages guild quest line. /[color]1
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Yes, I would like to see something similar to this.I wouldn't likely be down for the marketplace idea. The mirror image concept seems a bit far fetched. I think it would be better served improving upon the concept of Eyvea and building a neutral city there where all's safe. Access to the city would then come after a character has unlocked it through the mages guild quest line. /[color]
That would be fine as well, essentially it's just a neutral hub concept.
The distorted Imperial City concept was just to give it form and personality. It is by no means essential to the concept as a whole. If another neutral hub exists or is planned I would rather that be expanded upon.
There's no reason to separate the players with multiple different areas.1 -
Heromofo✭✭✭✭✭Yes, I would like to see something similar to this.Garret you brillant bugga another great idea mate.
Heromofo support +1
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PKMN12✭✭✭✭✭Other (Please Explain.)c.p.garrett1993_ESO wrote: »
No, I mean your concept is simply not going to happen.0 -
Wyietsayon✭✭✭Other (Please Explain.)I like the idea of all the players of any alliance having a place to go to, aside from Cyrodiil. Sometimes, you just want to be able to interact with other alliance players, but don't want to be on constant alert from others.
Not sure on the rest though. Player housing would be better spread out, so you could pick what kind of area you'd like cosmetically. Small scale pvp is what people have been trying to get forever. It might come eventually, buy it doesn't need to be tied into this. Could be set in it's own realm of oblivion. The marketplace one goes against the idea of guild stores. They don't want a central selling point, and this creates one.
AN alternate version of the Imperial City is cool though. Coldharbour kinda sorta has that. Well, ok, all I remember is the bridge, and some dark hallways in game. Maybe it could be expanded into a full city? Or we could just expand Meridia's City into this.
Or like a thousand other ideas, using the "It's a realm of oblivion by itself!" as a general lore excuse. You can basically get away with anything with that line. Fanfic writers probably do. It's just too tempting.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭No, I would not like to see anything like this.Got lost at this first sentence. I defeated Molag Bal already so he isn't a threat to tamriel.1 -
Heromofo✭✭✭✭✭Yes, I would like to see something similar to this.c.p.garrett1993_ESO wrote: »
No, I mean your concept is simply not going to happen.
Aaah did not know you worked for ZOS now.
Tell me why are you not working on fixes or updates but instead hassling people who only want to share an idea lol.0 -
PKMN12✭✭✭✭✭Other (Please Explain.)c.p.garrett1993_ESO wrote: »
No, I mean your concept is simply not going to happen.
Aaah did not know you worked for ZOS now.
Tell me why are you not working on fixes or updates but instead hassling people who only want to share an idea lol.
its called common sense and seeing what MMOs devs do. there has NEVER been an MMO that has actually listened to is its players on the forums for new features, especially not for something like this. So, unless you think your single idea is the one that will break over ten years of status quo, this is simply not going to happen unless they already had this planned, which is unlikely.1 -
Heromofo✭✭✭✭✭Yes, I would like to see something similar to this.c.p.garrett1993_ESO wrote: »
No, I mean your concept is simply not going to happen.
Aaah did not know you worked for ZOS now.
Tell me why are you not working on fixes or updates but instead hassling people who only want to share an idea lol.
its called common sense and seeing what MMOs devs do. there has NEVER been an MMO that has actually listened to is its players on the forums for new features, especially not for something like this. So, unless you think your single idea is the one that will break over ten years of status quo, this is simply not going to happen unless they already had this planned, which is unlikely.
It sounds like your saying:
Common sense dictates that ZOS does not care about feedback and ideas
And we are only wasting our time on the forums because in an mmo you do as your told and get what your given.
I dont know about you but thats a pretty silly way of looking at games.
An mmo just like any other game will always listen to feedback and apply the information to their game.Edited by Heromofo on May 4, 2015 5:21PM0 -
PKMN12✭✭✭✭✭Other (Please Explain.)c.p.garrett1993_ESO wrote: »
No, I mean your concept is simply not going to happen.
Aaah did not know you worked for ZOS now.
Tell me why are you not working on fixes or updates but instead hassling people who only want to share an idea lol.
its called common sense and seeing what MMOs devs do. there has NEVER been an MMO that has actually listened to is its players on the forums for new features, especially not for something like this. So, unless you think your single idea is the one that will break over ten years of status quo, this is simply not going to happen unless they already had this planned, which is unlikely.
It sounds like your saying:
Common sense dictates that ZOS does not care about feedback and ideas
And we are only wasting our time on the forums because in an mmo you do as your told and get what your given.
I dont know about you but thats a pretty silly way of looking at games.
An mmo just like any other game will always listen to feedback and apply the information to there game.
they DON"T care about feedback or idea's i thought that was obvious in the first place.......
secondaly, no what i am saying is that idea's from people on the forums are NEVER implementted in ANY MMO, EVER. please name one MMO where a MAjor idea from someone on the forum was added simply because of the supposrt around it on the forums.1 -
Heromofo✭✭✭✭✭Yes, I would like to see something similar to this.c.p.garrett1993_ESO wrote: »
No, I mean your concept is simply not going to happen.
Aaah did not know you worked for ZOS now.
Tell me why are you not working on fixes or updates but instead hassling people who only want to share an idea lol.
its called common sense and seeing what MMOs devs do. there has NEVER been an MMO that has actually listened to is its players on the forums for new features, especially not for something like this. So, unless you think your single idea is the one that will break over ten years of status quo, this is simply not going to happen unless they already had this planned, which is unlikely.
It sounds like your saying:
Common sense dictates that ZOS does not care about feedback and ideas
And we are only wasting our time on the forums because in an mmo you do as your told and get what your given.
I dont know about you but thats a pretty silly way of looking at games.
An mmo just like any other game will always listen to feedback and apply the information to there game.
they DON"T care about feedback or idea's i thought that was obvious in the first place.......
secondaly, no what i am saying is that idea's from people on the forums are NEVER implementted in ANY MMO, EVER. please name one MMO where a MAjor idea from someone on the forum was added simply because of the supposrt around it on the forums.
Well eso is the first game i was happy to come into the forums because of the potential.
But i have to ask why would they not care?
Because feedback is a necessity in video games and if you dont listen it will die.
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Heromofo✭✭✭✭✭Yes, I would like to see something similar to this.Ok so lets say i have 500 people on the forums saying this idea would really be nice to have.
Now even if i was to consider a 1-1000 system and yet i still said sorry i dont want that in my game.
Instead of saying so how can i bring in this idea and make money off it.
Supply and demand must be apart of mmo's?0 -
Yes, I would like to see something similar to this.c.p.garrett1993_ESO wrote: »
No, I mean your concept is simply not going to happen.
Aaah did not know you worked for ZOS now.
Tell me why are you not working on fixes or updates but instead hassling people who only want to share an idea lol.
its called common sense and seeing what MMOs devs do. there has NEVER been an MMO that has actually listened to is its players on the forums for new features, especially not for something like this. So, unless you think your single idea is the one that will break over ten years of status quo, this is simply not going to happen unless they already had this planned, which is unlikely.
While it is certainly not the most popular or advanced MMO, RuneScape has listened to its players for years. Some of the most popular content came from the community. They even have a whole forum for it.
I wouldn't say never, but I would agree that it is unlikely.1 -
PKMN12✭✭✭✭✭Other (Please Explain.)c.p.garrett1993_ESO wrote: »
No, I mean your concept is simply not going to happen.
Aaah did not know you worked for ZOS now.
Tell me why are you not working on fixes or updates but instead hassling people who only want to share an idea lol.
its called common sense and seeing what MMOs devs do. there has NEVER been an MMO that has actually listened to is its players on the forums for new features, especially not for something like this. So, unless you think your single idea is the one that will break over ten years of status quo, this is simply not going to happen unless they already had this planned, which is unlikely.
It sounds like your saying:
Common sense dictates that ZOS does not care about feedback and ideas
And we are only wasting our time on the forums because in an mmo you do as your told and get what your given.
I dont know about you but thats a pretty silly way of looking at games.
An mmo just like any other game will always listen to feedback and apply the information to there game.
they DON"T care about feedback or idea's i thought that was obvious in the first place.......
secondaly, no what i am saying is that idea's from people on the forums are NEVER implementted in ANY MMO, EVER. please name one MMO where a MAjor idea from someone on the forum was added simply because of the supposrt around it on the forums.
Well eso is the first game i was happy to come into the forums because of the potential.
But i have to ask why would they not care?
Because feedback is a necessity in video games and if you dont listen it will die.
not even WOW tends to listen to teh forum idea's, so yeah, your whole "they HAVE to listen or die" mentality does not work.
They would not care because it is not as easy to change MMO's as some people believe, and some of the changes or featiures people are asking for on the forums would be incredibly hard, if not impossible to code afte teh game has already been finsihed.
they might also undnerstand aspects of what would happen if it WAS released that some people refuse to realize. for example, the reason there is classes is to allow people to actually have choices instead of everyone choosing the same abilities. they seem to understand that is EXACTLY what would happen, even when there are so many players on this forum who belive you are stupid to actually like any kind of classes in this game.
And then there is simply "it does not fit with the way they designed the game and the way they envisioned it", which is something A LOT of people do not seem to understand. They had an idea for this game, a vision, and are not going to add something that interferes with that simply because a small portion of the playerbase wants it, they believe that it is better for the game without it.0 -
AH93✭✭✭Yes, I would like to see something similar to this.This is a fantastic idea, would love to see it implemented, not sure it will, but nevertheless.0
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Yes, I would like to see something similar to this.@PKMN12 & @Heromofo
Both of you have valid points.
ZOS is unlikely to follow player suggestions, but it is possible.
It is unlikely, but that does not mean we can't submit concepts anyway.
Were it popular enough to prove profitable they may.
The problem with player ideas is they are often hard to implement. Mostly due to the time and resources it takes to add something that doesn't use existing assets.
In order for a concept to be implemented the profit would need to outweigh the cost.
A large amount of people would need to say "Yes, we want this!"
It's by no means impossible.0 -
Heromofo✭✭✭✭✭Yes, I would like to see something similar to this.c.p.garrett1993_ESO wrote: »
No, I mean your concept is simply not going to happen.
Aaah did not know you worked for ZOS now.
Tell me why are you not working on fixes or updates but instead hassling people who only want to share an idea lol.
its called common sense and seeing what MMOs devs do. there has NEVER been an MMO that has actually listened to is its players on the forums for new features, especially not for something like this. So, unless you think your single idea is the one that will break over ten years of status quo, this is simply not going to happen unless they already had this planned, which is unlikely.
It sounds like your saying:
Common sense dictates that ZOS does not care about feedback and ideas
And we are only wasting our time on the forums because in an mmo you do as your told and get what your given.
I dont know about you but thats a pretty silly way of looking at games.
An mmo just like any other game will always listen to feedback and apply the information to there game.
they DON"T care about feedback or idea's i thought that was obvious in the first place.......
secondaly, no what i am saying is that idea's from people on the forums are NEVER implementted in ANY MMO, EVER. please name one MMO where a MAjor idea from someone on the forum was added simply because of the supposrt around it on the forums.
Well eso is the first game i was happy to come into the forums because of the potential.
But i have to ask why would they not care?
Because feedback is a necessity in video games and if you dont listen it will die.
not even WOW tends to listen to teh forum idea's, so yeah, your whole "they HAVE to listen or die" mentality does not work.
They would not care because it is not as easy to change MMO's as some people believe, and some of the changes or featiures people are asking for on the forums would be incredibly hard, if not impossible to code afte teh game has already been finsihed.
they might also undnerstand aspects of what would happen if it WAS released that some people refuse to realize. for example, the reason there is classes is to allow people to actually have choices instead of everyone choosing the same abilities. they seem to understand that is EXACTLY what would happen, even when there are so many players on this forum who belive you are stupid to actually like any kind of classes in this game.
And then there is simply "it does not fit with the way they designed the game and the way they envisioned it", which is something A LOT of people do not seem to understand. They had an idea for this game, a vision, and are not going to add something that interferes with that simply because a small portion of the playerbase wants it, they believe that it is better for the game without it.
That was an interesting read but if i was to believe this i would lose all respect for the game.
I have to believe they care i have gotten a message from a zos member about my housing thread.
So it would mean that what they said and what i believe is all a joke.
But it is ok we both believe differently its like religion lol
Just dont try to wipe me out lol......0 -
Caroloces✭✭✭✭✭Yes, I would like to see something similar to this.I like the idea a lot, but rather than the Imperial City how about a magical re-imagining of ColdHarbour, so rather than a bleak, desolate zone, you have the direct opposite - a beautiful, verdant landscape of hills and quiet villages, peaceful and untouched by Molag Bal. This zone would be neutral, and it would have a city that would be the counterpoint of the Hollow City. But rather than being restored by the lights of Meridia over the course of your visit (a la Hollow City), it would start out as an enlightened haven (City of Light), but would be increasingly, and subtly, corrupted by insidious forces.
We would see Cadwell as a young scholar mage, before his soul was snatched by Molag Bal. He would guide us in our main efforts to preserve the peace and beauty of this region. Our success in these quests would lead to the reward of player housing. Guild Keeps would be established so players could gather and practice their PVP skills in 1v1, 4v4, or 12v12.0 -
Caroloces✭✭✭✭✭Yes, I would like to see something similar to this.Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »Got lost at this first sentence. I defeated Molag Bal already so he isn't a threat to tamriel.
He may be down, but he's not out!
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Yes, I would like to see something similar to this.Wyietsayon wrote: »I like the idea of all the players of any alliance having a place to go to, aside from Cyrodiil. Sometimes, you just want to be able to interact with other alliance players, but don't want to be on constant alert from others.
Not sure on the rest though. Player housing would be better spread out, so you could pick what kind of area you'd like cosmetically. Small scale pvp is what people have been trying to get forever. It might come eventually, buy it doesn't need to be tied into this. Could be set in it's own realm of oblivion. The marketplace one goes against the idea of guild stores. They don't want a central selling point, and this creates one.
AN alternate version of the Imperial City is cool though. Coldharbour kinda sorta has that. Well, ok, all I remember is the bridge, and some dark hallways in game. Maybe it could be expanded into a full city? Or we could just expand Meridia's City into this.
Or like a thousand other ideas, using the "It's a realm of oblivion by itself!" as a general lore excuse. You can basically get away with anything with that line. Fanfic writers probably do. It's just too tempting.
- After entering a door/ portal you could be teleported to your own plane. Here you could choose your setting and design, it does not have to be portrayed as entering a regular house.
- It doesn't "have to be" but making a central location for everything is more convenient.
- Agreed, but guild stores can be frustrating and limited. Generally it doesn't contain anything I want or can use at my level. Perhaps the hub can be used to incorporate the guild stores as well? Gather all the stores together as one but still have the item purchased act like it was purchased from the guild store. Those who do not have a store could benefit from this as well.
Ideally you would need to reach a certain level to access this as well. No earlier than level 10, as you can't reach Cyrodiil until then. Maybe even later.
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✭✭✭Yes, I would like to see something similar to this.i'd like them to pretend cadwell's doesn't exist and main story lines after molag ball become cross faction and all players meet up and quest together only divider being the pvp and cyrodil and their home faction area, and their vet zones. but make all future stuff cross faction like a reason to vet level and play.0 -
bertenburnyb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭No, I would not like to see anything like this.it already takes them ages to get the PvP version of ic ready, would take another age to get that one, I would like a meeting place for all alliances, but don't think it should be ic, since that's already used and the "mirrored" idea feels forced, can be another place I don't mindHaze Ramoran Dunmer Dragonknight Tank/Dps – Smoked-Da-Herb Saxheel Templar Tank/Healer
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Yes, I would like to see something similar to this.bertenburnyb16_ESO wrote: »it already takes them ages to get the PvP version of ic ready, would take another age to get that one, I would like a meeting place for all alliances, but don't think it should be ic, since that's already used and the "mirrored" idea feels forced, can be another place I don't mind
Doesn't have to be the Imperial City.
It can be an existing location or a new one entirely.
The twisted/ mirrored IC was simply an example of how it could be done.
The main point of the topic, and voting, is a neutral zone for all players.0 -
dafox187✭✭✭Yes, I would like to see something similar to this.isnt that just bioshock never the less great idea
don't get mad at my spelling, autocorrect doesn't cover fantasy.
Why couldn't the Khajiit go to the party? She had to be Elsweyr.0 -
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Heromofo✭✭✭✭✭Yes, I would like to see something similar to this.c.p.garrett1993_ESO wrote: »
Lol dont to change the idea bloody love it.
Gotta say garret you really should lol they are brillant games bro lol.0 -
Sorgrim✭✭✭Yes, I would like to see something similar to this.I was a little bit apprehensive when I read the topic title, but I actually really like this.0