Worst Designed zone in MMO History

Dren_Utogi · May 2015

Worst thought out design of a pvp zone in the history of the business. Ive never seen a zone get so exploited in this short of time. A{ grinding guilds have taken complete control of the campaigns leaving Faction loyal players out in the cold of participating in fun and competitive pvp.

Take AP out of the zone and put into PVE where it belongs.

maryriv · May 2015

Take Alliance points out of PvP? Are you mad? I do agree that 2 faction guilds (ad and ep) are taking over campaigns and trading emps but what kind of whackey solution is that? lol.

Dren_Utogi · May 2015

Change the name to faction points and stick into pve which one starts getting for quest rewards at rank 1 through 14.

Then create an alliance point system that doesn't have any game value. Just keeps track of your alliance points.

If a player logs out of a character in one alliance and then log into a different alliance, they lose alliance ranking for being a traitor.

Teargrants · May 2015

Dren_Utogi wrote: »

Take AP out of the zone and put into PVE where it belongs.

Ohaithar, I see you don't like having to PvP for AP?

Seri · May 2015

Dren_Utogi wrote: »

Take AP out of the zone and put into PVE where it belongs.

Can I assume AP you refer to is still for levelling the alliance skills? Undaunted is a pure PvE skill-line (the rest can pretty much be leveled via XP). Why can't PvP'rs get their own?

Dren_Utogi wrote: »

If a player logs out of a character in one alliance and then log into a different alliance, they lose alliance ranking for being a traitor.

I have one set of friends I run PvP and some PvE with on one alliance. I have a different set of friends (completely non-overlapping so I can't exactly say 'oh, everyone reroll') on a different alliance who I pretty much never PvP on. I don't wanna lose my alliance/'faction point' rank

Draxys · May 2015

TheBull · May 2015

I disagree.

sirston · May 2015

Dren_Utogi wrote: »

Take AP out of the zone and put into PVE where it belongs.

ROFL

golfer.dub17_ESO · May 2015

*le epic maymay images*

Alright, we had our fun. On-topic time.

Dren_Utogi wrote: »

Change the name to faction points and stick into pve which one starts getting for quest rewards at rank 1 through 14.

Then create an alliance point system that doesn't have any game value. Just keeps track of your alliance points.

If a player logs out of a character in one alliance and then log into a different alliance, they lose alliance ranking for being a traitor.

Why are you against PvP giving people rewards?

I mean I totally get that people will usually abuse the system to get as many rewards as possible, but surely there's other ways to fix that than removing the rewards altogether (and that's not really unique to PvP anyways..)

bloodenragedb14_ESO · May 2015

actually like the idea, but not in the way mentioned. Remove all ap gain from everything but in and round keeps. would eliminate that most filthy of practices, ganking. (or ap farming, same thing, filthy ganker)

Snit · May 2015

bloodenragedb14_ESO wrote: »

actually like the idea, but not in the way mentioned. Remove all ap gain from everything but in and round keeps. would eliminate that most filthy of practices, ganking. (or ap farming, same thing, filthy ganker)

Dying in a videogame is not that big a deal.

Snit · May 2015

Dren_Utogi wrote: »

...leaving Faction loyal players out in the cold of participating in fun and competitive pvp.

You can find good PvP now. You may have to switch campaigns. You almost certainly need to be involved with a regular PvP group or guild. You have five guild slots -- I highly recommend you dedicate at least one to PvP.

When you find the right guild, Cyrodiil becomes a lot more fun.

kkravaritieb17_ESO · May 2015

I sense butthurt !!!

MoneyOverEverything · May 2015

reroll eu-orc-nb

^_^

Ghostbane · May 2015

maryriv wrote: »

taking over campaigns and trading emps.

wut.

heystreethawk · May 2015

MoneyOverEverything wrote: »

reroll eu-orc-nb

^_^

I don't care which server you play on, so long as you re-roll an orc

The way things have been going, we're all gonna wind up slaves to the Argonians and that is too lore-breaking for me to even handle atm

Nivzruo_ESO · May 2015

I'm so confused..

Dren_Utogi · May 2015

I would also like a way to see all characters a player has in what alliance.

Teargrants wrote: »

Dren_Utogi wrote: »

Take AP out of the zone and put into PVE where it belongs.

Ohaithar, I see you don't like having to PvP for AP?

Thanks for the insult. I've pvped in some of the most epic battles in mmorpg history like Lineage 2 , Shadowbane, eve online, Age of Conan so you can take your meme and shove it.

Pvpers , true pvpers play for the thrill and the loot (if a game has full loot), not the pve rewards.

AP = PVE crap.
Emperor = PVE crap

Dren_Utogi · May 2015

golfer.dub17_ESO wrote: »

*le epic maymay images*

Alright, we had our fun. On-topic time.

Dren_Utogi wrote: »

Change the name to faction points and stick into pve which one starts getting for quest rewards at rank 1 through 14.

Then create an alliance point system that doesn't have any game value. Just keeps track of your alliance points.

If a player logs out of a character in one alliance and then log into a different alliance, they lose alliance ranking for being a traitor.

Why are you against PvP giving people rewards?

I mean I totally get that people will usually abuse the system to get as many rewards as possible, but surely there's other ways to fix that than removing the rewards altogether (and that's not really unique to PvP anyways..)

Age of Conan was amazing, before the pvp gear. Once pvp gear came, people cheated and exploited the ranks to get pvp gear. PVP rewards brings out the lamest of the lame. One of the most under rated games, Shadowbane is pinnacle of light of what great pvp can be like. Shadowbane was the most brutally fun game ever made, which didn't have any "reward system" but the loot that other players carried, and the cities guilds owned.

The who emperor thing is lame, cause no one is really an emperor, specifically when it s an imperial zone.

RadioheadSh0t · May 2015

You play for the thrill and the loot, but want to remove AP from the game?

You do realize AP buys gear, right? And that you get loot (Rewards for the Worthy) for gaining AP?

Calling AP 'PvE crap' shows you clearly don't understand the game... Or you're just QQing with no substantial logic behind it.

RadioheadSh0t · May 2015

Dren_Utogi wrote: »

golfer.dub17_ESO wrote: »

*le epic maymay images*

Alright, we had our fun. On-topic time.

Dren_Utogi wrote: »

Change the name to faction points and stick into pve which one starts getting for quest rewards at rank 1 through 14.

Then create an alliance point system that doesn't have any game value. Just keeps track of your alliance points.

If a player logs out of a character in one alliance and then log into a different alliance, they lose alliance ranking for being a traitor.

Why are you against PvP giving people rewards?

I mean I totally get that people will usually abuse the system to get as many rewards as possible, but surely there's other ways to fix that than removing the rewards altogether (and that's not really unique to PvP anyways..)

Age of Conan was amazing, before the pvp gear. Once pvp gear came, people cheated and exploited the ranks to get pvp gear. PVP rewards brings out the lamest of the lame. One of the most under rated games, Shadowbane is pinnacle of light of what great pvp can be like. Shadowbane was the most brutally fun game ever made, which didn't have any "reward system" but the loot that other players carried, and the cities guilds owned.

The who emperor thing is lame, cause no one is really an emperor, specifically when it s an imperial zone.

Oh, now I get it...

EEEEMMMMMEEEERRRRSSSSHHHHHUUUUNNNNN!

Dren_Utogi · May 2015

RadioheadSh0t wrote: »

You play for the thrill and the loot, but want to remove AP from the game?

You do realize AP buys gear, right? And that you get loot (Rewards for the Worthy) for gaining AP?

Calling AP 'PvE crap' shows you clearly don't understand the game... Or you're just QQing with no substantial logic behind it.

Player dropped loot, not PVE NPC items.

Teargrants · May 2015

Dren_Utogi wrote: »

I would also like a way to see all characters a player has in what alliance.

Teargrants wrote: »

Dren_Utogi wrote: »

Take AP out of the zone and put into PVE where it belongs.

Ohaithar, I see you don't like having to PvP for AP?

Thanks for the insult. I've pvped in some of the most epic battles in mmorpg history like Lineage 2 , Shadowbane, eve online, Age of Conan so you can take your meme and shove it.

Pvpers , true pvpers play for the thrill and the loot (if a game has full loot), not the pve rewards.

AP = PVE crap.
Emperor = PVE crap

Lemme fix that for you since it looks like you could use some help keeping the message consistent with your OP.

Pvpers , true pvpers make threads on the forums complaining for the loot (AP is this game's loot) to be changed to pve rewards.

Dren_Utogi · May 2015

Teargrants wrote: »

Dren_Utogi wrote: »

I would also like a way to see all characters a player has in what alliance.

Teargrants wrote: »

Dren_Utogi wrote: »

Take AP out of the zone and put into PVE where it belongs.

Ohaithar, I see you don't like having to PvP for AP?

Thanks for the insult. I've pvped in some of the most epic battles in mmorpg history like Lineage 2 , Shadowbane, eve online, Age of Conan so you can take your meme and shove it.

Pvpers , true pvpers play for the thrill and the loot (if a game has full loot), not the pve rewards.

AP = PVE crap.
Emperor = PVE crap

Lemme fix that for you since it looks like you could use some help keeping the message consistent with your OP.

Pvpers , true pvpers make threads on the forums complaining for the loot (AP is this game's loot) to be changed to pve rewards.

The AP is PVE,.

REAL LOOT IS PLAYER OWNED GEAR, GOLD, ITEMS THAT DROP FROM INVENTORY OR FROM THE PLAYER

You shouldn’t mess with people quotes cause you can get sued for it. Its called defamation. I would suggest fixing your post. I did take media law.

WebBull · May 2015

Dren_Utogi wrote: »

you shouldn’t mess with people quotes cause you can get sued for it. Its called defamation. I would suggest fixing your post. I did take media law.

Too Funny. He thinks he can PvP you IRL based on a forum post.

Talcyndl · May 2015

Someone clearly never played SWTOR - or at least never made it to Ilum.

Teargrants · May 2015

Dren_Utogi wrote: »

Teargrants wrote: »

Dren_Utogi wrote: »

I would also like a way to see all characters a player has in what alliance.

Teargrants wrote: »

Dren_Utogi wrote: »

Take AP out of the zone and put into PVE where it belongs.

Ohaithar, I see you don't like having to PvP for AP?

Thanks for the insult. I've pvped in some of the most epic battles in mmorpg history like Lineage 2 , Shadowbane, eve online, Age of Conan so you can take your meme and shove it.

Pvpers , true pvpers play for the thrill and the loot (if a game has full loot), not the pve rewards.

AP = PVE crap.
Emperor = PVE crap

Lemme fix that for you since it looks like you could use some help keeping the message consistent with your OP.

Pvpers , true pvpers make threads on the forums complaining for the loot (AP is this game's loot) to be changed to pve rewards.

The AP is PVE,.

REAL LOOT IS PLAYER OWNED GEAR, GOLD, ITEMS THAT DROP FROM INVENTORY OR FROM THE PLAYER

You shouldn’t mess with people quotes cause you can get sued for it. Its called defamation. I would suggest fixing your post. I did take media law.

That's funny, what did I alter in your quote besides bolding a sentence? How about you expand on your argument with coherent reasoning instead of repeating yourself, BUT THIS TIME IN CAPS LOCK, and tangential tirades?

You get AP from killing players, that is the PvP reward in this game. Anything that you buy with that AP is thence also part of the PvP rewards. I don't expect much to come out of trying to reason with you, but hopefully some people can get a modicum of amusement out of reading this thread.

Dren_Utogi · May 2015

I don' t see any bag of loot or gravestone when a player is defeated that I can click on and get all of his belongs.. Rewarding players with AP is a pve mechanic, face the fact kid, you love PVE.

Dren_Utogi · May 2015

game is trash, later.

Torquebow · May 2015

Dren_Utogi wrote: »

game is trash, later.

Ultima Online awaits.... Oh wait..

But seriously with a breakdown and analysis of that quality, you must be right! Oh wait, sarcasm again.

Teargrants · May 2015

Dren_Utogi wrote: »

I don' t see any bag of loot or gravestone when a player is defeated that I can click on and get all of his belongs.. Rewarding players with AP is a pve mechanic, face the fact kid, you love PVE.

Quote of the year! This whole time I thought I was enjoying PvP, I must have actually secretly been wooed by the PvE fairy.

But please, how is that at all a coherent argument? You're just complaining about two types of PvP reward and claiming one isn't a PvP reward because...you don't click a button to get it.

Dren_Utogi wrote: »

game is trash, later.

All I'm getting is you spent money to B2P, didn't like it and now you're super salty.