maryriv wrote: »

Percentage Chance to Process (PCP or Proc Rate) - Most 5 pc set bonuses have a ridiculously low chance to proc especially when considering how many opportunities are presented for the proc to occur. It seems that not much consideration is given to the amount of opportunities per second are potential but that instead a random number is picked.

Cooldown Timer - Most great 5 pc set bonuses are totally destroyed by long cool down timers.

These are the two main reasons most 5 pc set bonuses are very undesirable, here are a few more:

Bind on Pickup - Some sets require ridiculously long farms to get all 5 of the pieces because they are bound when you pick them up instead of when you equip them this causes them to be less than useful bank hogs.

Traits - Some items get random traits as well as random armor type, some get static traits. This is a really need idea, however, when you reach end game you frequently see really great sets with things like Training, Exploration, and Sturdy (it is arguable which is worse). I understand that crafted gear was supposed to be "the best" gear in game and this does a little towards forcing that to be almost true, however, it doesn't really work in practice except to intentionally nerf perfectly good sets. Perhaps you can implement the ability for super high level Crafters to change traits on armor with a % chance to destory the armor! Or just make crafted sets better and eliminate those 3 traits at least from all armor above say v12. Thank you

Crazy/Situational Conditional Procs - Spawn of Mephala has an okay chance to proc but only on a fully charged heavy attack which makes it quite useless especially where the proc is most desirable in AvA. Most of the time it's hard to land a heavy attack in the heat of battle where you are getting interupted and people are immune to CC's a lot of the time.

The Proc Itself - Sometimes the proc itself is not even worth procing as is the case with Wise Mage set it's not a very wise mage that uses this set!.

Awkward 2,3 and 4 Bonuses - Other sets just have terrible 2, 3 and 4 bonuses which takes away from the 5 set making a potentially good or great bonus just meh. This is one of the reasons why items like Morag Ton are sought after because at least all the bonuses go towards the Stamina/Weapon Power theme, even though the trait on armor is still terrible, it doesn't take away from the 5 piece as other sets do.

Availability of Set Pieces - Some sets only have exactly 5 pieces available 2 rings and 3 armor pieces or worse 1 Pendant and 4 other pieces like the Dreugh King Slayer set.

Limited Level of Set Pieces - Many sets are not available in V14 versions at all, rarity is one thing but not at all available is kinda a big downer especially when they go up to V12 and V13 so close but so awkward. This is the case of most of the 2pc sets helmets from dungeons. I know vet ranks will be phased out soon so not sure how this could be addressed or if it should, I guess it depends on what you decide to do with itemization at that time.

Crafted Sets - Lets face it, at end game, all crafted sets are terrible compared to other PvP found sets. Perhaps have some rare component that can be added during crafting to make them all much more powerful and thus viable end game.

Sometimes a combination of several of the above points are the issue as in the case of Magicka Furnace First we have the trait, Reinforced on Light armor is terrible! Especially since the armor was reduced on light (which is good but it stealth nerfed sets like this) the 2 pc of Physical Reistance, again on light armor, not so much, then we have the bonus itself, recovered magicka is good but the condition is ONLY on Melee attack THEN it has a 30 second CD on top of that. There are better examples but this one has the potential to be so much better if even one of the 3 problems with it were addressed. I would love to see the trait changed and the timer reduced to 15 seconds or on any damage not just melee.

Also there are abused sets such as the Valkyn Skoria where people stack aoe DoT abilities to get tons of chances to get the 4% proc and lagging out the whole world with meteors.

Finally there are absolutely ideal and perfect sets like the Arch-Mage which are super rare which is awesome. I think this type was done right, perfect but super rare.

I understand that every set can't be perfect but could we at least have them reworked so there are more than a hand full of desirable sets out of to many that are already out there. It's so bad that in almost all cases it's better to go maximum of 4 pc for the best spell/weapon damage rather than go for a bonus and sacrifice those stats. Plus you are talking about making more when most of the ones we already have need serious tweeking.

I'm not asking for all sets to be equal but just that most of them to not be completely useless

If you have some good examples that I can fill in the ones I'm missing or in addition to the ones I have please say below. Also if you don't agree with all or some of the points please elaborate with specific examples. Thanks.

Disclaimer: I am not asking for CD or Proc to be eliminated from gear, I like those mechanics. I am asking that some CD's be halved and some Proc %'s to be doubled for example, in order to make sets more viable.

lihentian wrote: »

everything will be better once they release *** crafting.. hopefully...

oren74 wrote: »

maryriv wrote: »

Crafted Sets - Lets face it, at end game, all crafted sets are terrible compared to other PvP found sets. Perhaps have some rare component that can be added during crafting to make them all much more powerful and thus viable end game.

Good post except this part. Crafted sets allow you to make exactly what you want...fnish off your build.

I use 5 piece shadow walker. Morag Tong daggers...leaving 5 more pieces. Tons of options now with crafted, and went to Night's Silence for sneak speed.

ThatNeonZebraAgain wrote: »

You forgot traits. I'm looking at you Footman's set with Exploration trait... (it's ok tho i still love you)

seblatourneb18_ESO wrote: »

Bad set traits or bonuses wouldn't matter so much if we could craft jewelry from craftable sets. It would add so much variety to what we can actually do? Warlock, shadow walker, ravager are good because of the bonuses, but especially because they have rings/necklace.

If I could have a 5 piece set with Hist bark that included 3 pieces of jewelry, I wouldn't care so much I have to wear a sturdy 5 piece set to complement it.

Just use the metal we already have in the game for levels, and add some 3 stones, one for robust, one for healthy, one for arcane, and we'll be happy.
You can always make a better system later ZOS, like you did with provisionning. It would take you less time than redoing all the sets in the game, right?