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Sorc's bolt escape BS

  • daemonios
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    Axorn wrote: »
    for example : you abmushed by 3 people you are a dk or nb or templar doesnt matter you have only 1 choice you have to fight to death you cant escape them !!! you need to kill them or they will kill you there is no escape but if you are a sorcerer you can just spam 1 key and ignore them there is no way they can catch you up also bolt escape stuns !!! even this is enough reason to nerf bolt escape

    None of what you're saying is new. It's been stated and rebutted again and again and again. You're tiresome. Have a nice rant.
  • Qyrk
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    Axorn wrote: »
    Teargrants wrote: »
    Whoa whoa whoa! So now you're complaining about losing a 7v1???? 7 dudes not only could not kill one person, but 3 of them died to him? And please tell me how it could not be any more clear that this is a L2P issue?

    You've been playing since 1999? Great! Have you been playing ESO since 1999? Cuz if so, can I please have your autograph since you are clearly a Time Lord.

    lol i knew some one going to say that ^ but you guys dont get it. Its not about being pro or noob its about balance between classes and i dont need to be a pro player to see this unbalanced ability !!! i know im going to be pro if i focus on pvp in eso i didnt due to lag/fps issues in cyrodiil. I ve been playing since beta btw also this doesnt prove anything i know that too but i know this bolt escape is unbalanced :/

    But you need to be prepared to be in pvp to have a solid argument on the case you're making. Again you said and I quote
    i didnt even put abilities for pvp !! also my gear got full training traits i was leveling my medium armor
    , therefore you cannot make an argument if you aren't even ready to pvp in the first place. Get that through your head mate, you have no argument here since you can't blame a skill for your lack of preparedness for the situation. I am a PvE and play a dragonknight, and I am not a pro player, and yet I can stand my own against sorcerers that Bolt-Escapes. YOU need to learn to play, young padawan.
    Edited by Qyrk on April 27, 2015 12:10AM
  • Julianos
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    daemonios wrote: »
    Axorn wrote: »
    for example : you abmushed by 3 people you are a dk or nb or templar doesnt matter you have only 1 choice you have to fight to death you cant escape them !!! you need to kill them or they will kill you there is no escape but if you are a sorcerer you can just spam 1 key and ignore them there is no way they can catch you up also bolt escape stuns !!! even this is enough reason to nerf bolt escape

    None of what you're saying is new. It's been stated and rebutted again and again and again. You're tiresome. Have a nice rant.

    then i will just start to level up my vet1 sorc cos its superior to the other classes by far :/
  • UrQuan
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    Axorn wrote: »
    UrQuan wrote: »
    Axorn wrote: »
    only templar got great and sustainable healing
    Axorn wrote: »
    i am dragon knight
    Hmm, well then. So somehow, as a Dragonknight you think that only Templars have great and sustainable healing? You must be Dragonknighting wrong.

    Between Burning Embers, Coagulated Blood, Burning Heart, and Battle Roar the DK has amazing and sustainable healing. Especially if you use your Champion Points on the passives that increase the healing received and healing initiated.

    lol i know that but you think you can race with templar on healing?????????????????????????????????????????
    also burning embers takes forever and you cant just spam dragon blood it cost a lot !! and again i didnt complain about dk abilties and again sorcs can use defensive champ skills and wear heavy armor with resto staff too but they dont they want full offense with unlimited bolt escape and it makes them most unbalanced class !! if i do as you said they will DRAIN me in the end !!! cos i cant escape 90854 yards in secs !!
    Bottom line is that you said that only templars have great and sustainable healing. That tells me that you don't understand the classes of this game, as much as does your comment about "burning embers takes forever and you can't just spam dragon blood".

    So that comment tells me that you don't understand how DKs sustain their healing. You don't spam DK heals, you set them up in a rotation. Start a fight by putting Burning Embers on something (you won't get healed yet, but you don't need it yet, and it's causing damage), when you're starting to get hurt enough to be in the danger zone where a couple of high damage abilities could kill you, pop Coagulating Blood for a good self-heal, and a buff to incoming healing, then when you're next hitting that danger zone you pop your ultimate (whichever it may be) to instantly regain a bunch of health (and magicka and stamina - note that the health you regain will be increased because of Coagulating Blood), then after that you should be getting the incoming heal from Burning Embers (increased because of Coagulating Blood), and you start over from the beginning. Anything else you may have along the way (maybe from a resto staff, whatever) just makes this more effective and sustainable, and sometimes you'll switch up the order, but the bottom line is that you rotate to sustain your heals.
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    Manut Redguard Temp (AD)
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  • Julianos
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    UrQuan wrote: »
    Axorn wrote: »
    UrQuan wrote: »
    Axorn wrote: »
    only templar got great and sustainable healing
    Axorn wrote: »
    i am dragon knight
    Hmm, well then. So somehow, as a Dragonknight you think that only Templars have great and sustainable healing? You must be Dragonknighting wrong.

    Between Burning Embers, Coagulated Blood, Burning Heart, and Battle Roar the DK has amazing and sustainable healing. Especially if you use your Champion Points on the passives that increase the healing received and healing initiated.

    lol i know that but you think you can race with templar on healing?????????????????????????????????????????
    also burning embers takes forever and you cant just spam dragon blood it cost a lot !! and again i didnt complain about dk abilties and again sorcs can use defensive champ skills and wear heavy armor with resto staff too but they dont they want full offense with unlimited bolt escape and it makes them most unbalanced class !! if i do as you said they will DRAIN me in the end !!! cos i cant escape 90854 yards in secs !!
    Bottom line is that you said that only templars have great and sustainable healing. That tells me that you don't understand the classes of this game, as much as does your comment about "burning embers takes forever and you can't just spam dragon blood".

    So that comment tells me that you don't understand how DKs sustain their healing. You don't spam DK heals, you set them up in a rotation. Start a fight by putting Burning Embers on something (you won't get healed yet, but you don't need it yet, and it's causing damage), when you're starting to get hurt enough to be in the danger zone where a couple of high damage abilities could kill you, pop Coagulating Blood for a good self-heal, and a buff to incoming healing, then when you're next hitting that danger zone you pop your ultimate (whichever it may be) to instantly regain a bunch of health (and magicka and stamina - note that the health you regain will be increased because of Coagulating Blood), then after that you should be getting the incoming heal from Burning Embers (increased because of Coagulating Blood), and you start over from the beginning. Anything else you may have along the way (maybe from a resto staff, whatever) just makes this more effective and sustainable, and sometimes you'll switch up the order, but the bottom line is that you rotate to sustain your heals.

    i ve been playing with my dk since beta and i can solo even normal dungeon bosses on my own at vet14 i done it lots of time so dont dare to teach me how dk works after dungeons people whispering to me and say "you are the best tank i ve ever seen" when people rain down spells on you you cant sustain a s***. you can sustain for a while helplessly without doing any damage they lock you down

    you know what sorc is the best i ve been leveling right now and its too overpowered its one shot everything. even im not going to talk about surge and power overload and shield for me just bolt escape is enough to kick every class in the game
    also i dont have to split up my attirubute points between stamina and magicka i will just scale everything with magicka and kill everything like a king ok ? i have 5 pieces seducer and 3 pieces magnus gift already teleporting almost limitless and im only vet1

  • vichoi
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    Axorn wrote: »
    i am dragon knight

    you know what sorc is the best i ve been leveling right now and its too overpowered its one shot everything. even im not going to talk about surge and power overload and shield for me just bolt escape is enough to kick every class in the game
    also i dont have to split up my attirubute points between stamina and magicka i will just scale everything with magicka and kill everything like a king ok ? i have 5 pieces seducer and 3 pieces magnus gift already teleporting almost limitless and im only vet1

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    I don't think you truly tested the BE skill with your sorc, for dps and balanced , it's about 8-10 bolt, with full sustain build its 10-12 bolts. Nothing close to limitless, if your asking for sorc nerf, please don't make up numbers and ppl may listen.
    And please explain how to 'one shot' everything please.
    And surge with overload? Who's using surge now?
    Edited by vichoi on April 27, 2015 7:14AM
  • Julianos
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    10-12 bolts in pvp its limitless for me lol please listen to yourselves in any game any class can use escape mechanics like 12 times in a row ? thats totally BS. Also yes i one shot every mob with power overload light attacks and its almost limitless too its always up i kill skull bosses with power overload light attacks before they can reach me it takes like 3-4 seconds to kill them .

    i got dragon knight i can wear full light armor too wtih destro staff also we have dragon wings why we cant leap 12 times in a row for escape ?

    ZOS shuold give similar escape mechanics to other classes or they should nerf bolt escape like a hell until then sorcerer is way superior compered to other classes if someone tells you otherwise prolly they are trying to fool you or they are fooling them selves
    Edited by Julianos on April 27, 2015 5:28PM
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