Subbed for a Whole Year and didn't get a Beta code

Castielle · April 2015

Anyone else miffed they subbed for a whole year (I have my tiger mount) and didn't get a code for the beta. A friend of mine did as well and she didn't get a code either...

Was really looking forward to playing this weekend

Cas

JD2013 · April 2015

Sadly it's no guarantee. I didn't either but that's just how it goes!

Athas24 · April 2015

I didn't get a code and could care less. Stupid consoles *grumbles for no reason*.

Natjur · April 2015

But you did pay for the transfer and fill in the correct forms before the cut of date?

BrassRazoo · April 2015

Same.
Subscriber on PC from Beta, payed for Console Transfer day after announcement .. no beta code.
Didn't actually know there was going to be one until reading the forums.

LonePirate · April 2015

Unless you are a Twitch streamer or have the luck of the gods, you did not receive a Beta invite. It does not matter if you are a subscriber or if you purchased the console transfer. No customer appreciation for you!

These tidbits make me think this Beta event is not a testing event; but rather, it is a promotional event instead.

Castielle · April 2015

Yes I did. I bought the transfer 2 days after they became available and filled out the survey immediately after. I realize there was no guarantee, but it seems like they'd want to reward the ones who have been faithful to them the whole time. I mean, I even have the transfer so I can play on PS4...

TL;DR it just kinda sucks

Cas

c.p.garrett1993_ESO · April 2015

Beta.
Limited.
Quit whining. Everybody seems to have some reason to think they are entitled to the Beta.
As a customer, yes, you deserve more than what has been given to you. You've paid a lot of money and you've been screwed over quite a bit.
Betas, however, are for people who are qualified to test the game or who are going to be sharing gameplay and giving them free advertising. Everybody else is just luck of the draw. This is completely logical and fair.

Castielle · April 2015

c.p.garrett1993_ESO wrote: »

Beta.
Limited.
Quit whining. Everybody seems to have some reason to think they are entitled to the Beta.
As a customer, yes, you deserve more than what has been given to you. You've paid a lot of money and you've been screwed over quite a bit.
Betas, however, are for people who are qualified to test the game or who are going to be sharing gameplay and giving them free advertising. Everybody else is just luck of the draw. This is completely logical and fair.

You realize I run the ESO Wiki right? How am I not qualified?

Cas

Gidorick · April 2015

I was in the PC Beta. Been a subscriber since day one. Have paid for the PS4 console Transfer. Filled out all appropriate forms... no code.

Not miffed. I'll play it June 9th.

Gidorick · April 2015

Castielle wrote: »

c.p.garrett1993_ESO wrote: »

Beta.
Limited.
Quit whining. Everybody seems to have some reason to think they are entitled to the Beta.
As a customer, yes, you deserve more than what has been given to you. You've paid a lot of money and you've been screwed over quite a bit.
Betas, however, are for people who are qualified to test the game or who are going to be sharing gameplay and giving them free advertising. Everybody else is just luck of the draw. This is completely logical and fair.

You realize I run the ESO Wiki right? How am I not qualified?

Cas

Nice Wiki BTW.

Nyghthowler · April 2015

Castielle wrote: »

c.p.garrett1993_ESO wrote: »

Beta.
Limited.
Quit whining. Everybody seems to have some reason to think they are entitled to the Beta.
As a customer, yes, you deserve more than what has been given to you. You've paid a lot of money and you've been screwed over quite a bit.
Betas, however, are for people who are qualified to test the game or who are going to be sharing gameplay and giving them free advertising. Everybody else is just luck of the draw. This is completely logical and fair.

You realize I run the ESO Wiki right? How am I not qualified?

Cas

No, didn't realize that. And still don't see why you should expect preferential treatment. Beta invite is random. I have applied to numerous beta's over the years. Some I get access to, some I never do.

Castielle · April 2015

Nyghthowler wrote: »

Castielle wrote: »

c.p.garrett1993_ESO wrote: »

Beta.
Limited.
Quit whining. Everybody seems to have some reason to think they are entitled to the Beta.
As a customer, yes, you deserve more than what has been given to you. You've paid a lot of money and you've been screwed over quite a bit.
Betas, however, are for people who are qualified to test the game or who are going to be sharing gameplay and giving them free advertising. Everybody else is just luck of the draw. This is completely logical and fair.

You realize I run the ESO Wiki right? How am I not qualified?

Cas

No, didn't realize that. And still don't see why you should expect preferential treatment. Beta invite is random. I have applied to numerous beta's over the years. Some I get access to, some I never do.

I think we have differing opinions about preferential treatment. I am miffed because I subbed the whole year, something few people did. I purchased the transfer and filled in the form (as I intend to play on PS4 in June). I would expect that these would be the first people to get the beta (from a pure "it's good a business move" point of view).

So yes, I am miffed. This is a forum and this is my way of letting them know. I don't think my post was too hostile. I just wanted to communicate my thoughts.

Cas

Audigy · April 2015

The console version isn't any different to the PC, so if you expect new content in the Beta you will be left in the cold. If there is one significant difference between both versions than its the UI.

At the console its all very Skyrim like, while on PC less chaotic and more user friendly. For instance, the HUD is different and more centered on the screen, the name plates are bigger, fronts are bigger etc. But the content is the same, so you don't miss out on anything, unless you prefer to play on a console, but this you can anyways in June

c.p.garrett1993_ESO · April 2015

Castielle wrote: »

c.p.garrett1993_ESO wrote: »

Beta.
Limited.
Quit whining. Everybody seems to have some reason to think they are entitled to the Beta.
As a customer, yes, you deserve more than what has been given to you. You've paid a lot of money and you've been screwed over quite a bit.
Betas, however, are for people who are qualified to test the game or who are going to be sharing gameplay and giving them free advertising. Everybody else is just luck of the draw. This is completely logical and fair.

You realize I run the ESO Wiki right? How am I not qualified?

Cas

Oh god... You're one of those "Do you KNOW who I am?!" people...
No, I didn't know that. The fact you expected me to know is pretty ridiculous.

I fail to see how running a wiki is relevant to beta testing.
I can see why you are upset. You've been a loyal customer for some time and you feel you are being cheated. You are. However, there are limited slots available and you apparently did not get the golden ticket. You'll get over it.

You have the game. You can already play it. And you have the transfer, you're already sold as a customer.

BigM · April 2015

Limited slots in a beta, I never heard of that one before! We are having so many problems with lag on PC version it would make more sense if they didn't limit anything on console so they could possibly find the problems causing the lag, so yeah as many as you can get into beta would be the smart play!

Varicite · April 2015

Eh, random is random.

Sorry guy.

I've never been invited to any beta ever, though, so I guess I'm just used to it.

The only reason I got to play in the ESO beta was because they opened it to everybody.

Nerio · April 2015

There are people who subbed to WoW for nearly 10 years straight who didn't get invited to the beta for the latest expansion. You gave yourself the best chance you could, but in the end you didn't get picked. Put a positive spin on it; when June rolls around you'll get to have a fresh (more polished) experience that could very well resurface that sense of wonder a lot of us felt the first time we got to explore Tamriel.

Castielle · April 2015

c.p.garrett1993_ESO wrote: »

Castielle wrote: »

c.p.garrett1993_ESO wrote: »

Beta.
Limited.
Quit whining. Everybody seems to have some reason to think they are entitled to the Beta.
As a customer, yes, you deserve more than what has been given to you. You've paid a lot of money and you've been screwed over quite a bit.
Betas, however, are for people who are qualified to test the game or who are going to be sharing gameplay and giving them free advertising. Everybody else is just luck of the draw. This is completely logical and fair.

You realize I run the ESO Wiki right? How am I not qualified?

Cas

Oh god... You're one of those "Do you KNOW who I am?!" people...
No, I didn't know that. The fact you expected me to know is pretty ridiculous.

I fail to see how running a wiki is relevant to beta testing.
I can see why you are upset. You've been a loyal customer for some time and you feel you are being cheated. You are. However, there are limited slots available and you apparently did not get the golden ticket. You'll get over it.

You have the game. You can already play it. And you have the transfer, you're already sold as a customer.

LMAO. I guess it was a bit ridiculous for me to expect you to know that, my bad. In my defense though, pretty damn ridiculous to say you have to be qualified to hold a controller and play a game. Also, you've pretty much been a *** the whole thread.

My whole point was simply I am bummed we aren't being rewarded for being the loyal customers who subbed the whole time and purchased the transfer. It's perfectly logical.
Cas

P.S. Also maybe posting here will give some visibility to this and maybe Zenimax will change their policies to reward these players in the future.

Darkonflare15 · April 2015

Castielle wrote: »

c.p.garrett1993_ESO wrote: »

Castielle wrote: »

c.p.garrett1993_ESO wrote: »

Beta.
Limited.
Quit whining. Everybody seems to have some reason to think they are entitled to the Beta.
As a customer, yes, you deserve more than what has been given to you. You've paid a lot of money and you've been screwed over quite a bit.
Betas, however, are for people who are qualified to test the game or who are going to be sharing gameplay and giving them free advertising. Everybody else is just luck of the draw. This is completely logical and fair.

You realize I run the ESO Wiki right? How am I not qualified?

Cas

Oh god... You're one of those "Do you KNOW who I am?!" people...
No, I didn't know that. The fact you expected me to know is pretty ridiculous.

I fail to see how running a wiki is relevant to beta testing.
I can see why you are upset. You've been a loyal customer for some time and you feel you are being cheated. You are. However, there are limited slots available and you apparently did not get the golden ticket. You'll get over it.

You have the game. You can already play it. And you have the transfer, you're already sold as a customer.

LMAO. You realize I never mentioned it until you said you had to be "qualified" to play a beta. Don't we all know how to play a video game?? You've pretty much been a ***. I'm upset a loyal customer like myself wasn't rewarded and neither was my friend.

Cas

Understandable, I did not get one as well. My only problem is that ESO is being super sneaking with their stuff when it relates to important information. Like when they were going to have the beta, Instead of letting us know at least a week ahead of time. They announced the day before it happens. This is getting annoying.

They announced several things and then leave us in the dark for months and then do not discuss dates until it right up on us. Then they have their politician face on Eso live with their fake smiles and false reassuring about things. I just do not know if I can invest in a future of a game that feels like we are going into a dead end. It like a endless circle of Zos Fixing and Breaking stuff and than hiding the truth until it absolutely necessary.

LonePirate · April 2015

The obvious lesson here is that if you want to be included in any future Beta projects for ZOS, you have to stream their game. Those are the only players who matter it would seem. Long term subscribers or advance purchasers of their product evidently mean nothing to them.

PKMN12 · April 2015

LonePirate wrote: »

The obvious lesson here is that if you want to be included in any future Beta projects for ZOS, you have to stream their game. Those are the only players who matter it would seem. Long term subscribers or advance purchasers of their product evidently mean nothing to them.

honestly, i do not think they really even care about ANY of their customers, since they mostly just lie to everyone or do not tell us anything.

Fexelea · April 2015

I'm in the same boat as Cas. Subbed whole year, registered with Beta first day it was announced, filled form, bought ps4 transfer... and zip.

For those saying it's completely random: I doubt it

For those saying it's only for streamers: Then Zenimax F'ed up because my last stream had 2800 simultaneous viewers

Either way, please understand that people who were really looking forward to this are upset, and I don't think Cas is trying to pull a "do you know who I am", he simply stated something when his "qualifications" to be in a beta were questioned xD

On a brighter side, the admins here have been very prompt to respond to messages, even if with bad news.

Dixa · April 2015

I have more mmorpg, testing and general online gaming experience than just about anyone you will ever meet and even with those qualifications it's a 50/50 chance I can get into beta's.

granted I apply for a lot and am currently beta'ng 6 games 2 of which are actually alphas and have not been announced based solely on that experience, but there are others I think i'm a shoe-in yet never hear about.

it is what it is. i'm probably not the target age demographic anymore.

Snoopsy · April 2015

OP has a complete right to be upset, and I can see why. The point of a beta is to see how different varieties of players handle the game, which is why a random invitation system kind of flunks. I believe they should pull randomly but from certain groups. For instance, 1/2 of the beta people will be players who have not subbed to ESO and maybe don't even play the PC version. This gives Zenimax a chance to see how NEW players react to the game. The other 1/2 should be people who have subbed to the game for X months, and from there random beta invites go out to those who have subscribed for that duration of time. (Granted, all these people fill Zenimax's original requirements.)

Valymer · April 2015

If you guys think that the beta is 100% random you need to put down the pipe for a while

NewBlacksmurf · April 2015

Realize...there was no way of knowing if an actual account should get beta access. Those fields were not on any application.
This also made it a fair beta code process

P3ZZL3 · April 2015

I live in the EU
I joined in January 2015.
I don't own a console.
I didn't get a Senche
I would never pay for a Console to play games.

Yet!!! I Still didn't get a Beta Access code for the NA Server.

Very disappointed

Varicite · April 2015

Valymer wrote: »

If you guys think that the beta is 100% random you need to put down the pipe for a while

I didn't say it was 100% random, but they certainly don't take every single player of different situations, and they don't cherry pick them personally either.

originalbars · April 2015

The guild i'm in and various friends signed on did the survey, none of us got a code (all PS4 EU players FYI) - in total there is about 50 of us.

It seems that only streamers and tubers got guaranteed invites.

A lot of people seem to believe this is just a marketing move to get their game covered since none of the bigger gaming sites spend much attention on ESO or its beta.

Without generating a high player load:

- They prevent showing (potentially) poor performance in high population zones
- Reduces the chance of lagg across the board
- Benefits stability of the game and its systems

In the end they're playing it safe generating favorable 'previews' of their game, This game selling poorly on console would end ZOS.

Pallmor · April 2015

Castielle wrote: »

Anyone else miffed they subbed for a whole year (I have my tiger mount) and didn't get a code for the beta. A friend of mine did as well and she didn't get a code either...

Was really looking forward to playing this weekend

Cas

ZOS makes some truly perplexing decisions, and making the beta a closed one just six weeks before launch is definitely one of them. Not only does it send the message that they don't have much confidence that the console version can handle the stress of more than a small number of players, but it also is a great way to irk some of their biggest supporters. No amount of "Sorry, it was a random process" can repair the damage you do when you tell many people who have supported the game from the get-go that you're throwing a party but they're not invited.

And no, no one is ENTITLED to beta access. But still, making it exclusive rather than inclusive is bound to *** some people off. And that's the last thing ZOS needs going into a VERY crucial period. When the next few months can decide the fate of your game, the last thing you want is more people rooting against you.