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Dragon knight vs Nightblade (for example)
teladoy
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Hi,
I'm trying to play with both classes, but again and again it doesn't matter which build, weapon or combination I try the nightblade is a deception for me.
I like to play the NB with duals, because for two-hands weapon I like my DK . but I see that brawler is really an OP skill, is like a must, specially with a DK. I say specially with DK because they have a lot of shields and right now shields > any healing skill.
Here is the thing with my stamina DK I don't need to use almost nothing of magicka, if I'm low of health I can use like 3 times the green dragon blood, that heals me instant!!! Plus 150 ultimate (that is nothing) that shields me 100%!
With my nightblade I have skills that heals me for X amount every 2 seconds for 10 second... like swallow soul for example.. that means that I can spawn that skill all what I want for almost nothing. Then soul theater is a very strong ultimate that's OK. Sap essence is very good against a large group, but solo not so good.
But here is the thing... a DK can spawn Brawler and sustain the shield, not 10 seconds, no nothing, instant shield x each enemy hit. Shields areare very powerfull skills right now and + instant heals please ***...
I suggest the next. All shields should be reworked to increment during 10 seconds. What I mean is: you hit 4 enemies, you get X shield, that will increment from 0 to X every 2 seconds for the next 10 seconds. Example: (1000 damage shield / 10) * 2 = 200. You get a 200 shield the first 2 seconds, then another 200 the next 2 seconds etc.
Swalow soul should heal for 15% instant and then another 25% for the next 10 seconds.
Green dragon blood heals instant for X amount and then 33% for the next 10 seconds.
Normally people choose between one shot or survivality... so the only way to play a NB is like just one shot people, because survivality, yes is possible, is not impossible... but please compared with a DK is a joke.
Yes I can use a two hand sword with my NB, but hey! I like use my dual wield!!! is that nothing?
If I'm wrong with all this I'm saying please somebody explain me how is it really, but be objetive, not because your main is DK your argument inf your favor. Because one day maybe you want to play another class.
Oh and I forgot, I have two NB, one Khajit stamina and another dunmer vampire magicka with heavy and total survivality and I finish always playing with my robust, tanky, bounce, shielded and nice heals DK.
Thank you and sorry if no one understand my english.
Edited by teladoy on April 22, 2015 9:38PM I'm trying to play with both classes, but again and again it doesn't matter which build, weapon or combination I try the nightblade is a deception for me.
I like to play the NB with duals, because for two-hands weapon I like my DK . but I see that brawler is really an OP skill, is like a must, specially with a DK. I say specially with DK because they have a lot of shields and right now shields > any healing skill.
Here is the thing with my stamina DK I don't need to use almost nothing of magicka, if I'm low of health I can use like 3 times the green dragon blood, that heals me instant!!! Plus 150 ultimate (that is nothing) that shields me 100%!
With my nightblade I have skills that heals me for X amount every 2 seconds for 10 second... like swallow soul for example.. that means that I can spawn that skill all what I want for almost nothing. Then soul theater is a very strong ultimate that's OK. Sap essence is very good against a large group, but solo not so good.
But here is the thing... a DK can spawn Brawler and sustain the shield, not 10 seconds, no nothing, instant shield x each enemy hit. Shields areare very powerfull skills right now and + instant heals please ***...
I suggest the next. All shields should be reworked to increment during 10 seconds. What I mean is: you hit 4 enemies, you get X shield, that will increment from 0 to X every 2 seconds for the next 10 seconds. Example: (1000 damage shield / 10) * 2 = 200. You get a 200 shield the first 2 seconds, then another 200 the next 2 seconds etc.
Swalow soul should heal for 15% instant and then another 25% for the next 10 seconds.
Green dragon blood heals instant for X amount and then 33% for the next 10 seconds.
Normally people choose between one shot or survivality... so the only way to play a NB is like just one shot people, because survivality, yes is possible, is not impossible... but please compared with a DK is a joke.
Yes I can use a two hand sword with my NB, but hey! I like use my dual wield!!! is that nothing?
If I'm wrong with all this I'm saying please somebody explain me how is it really, but be objetive, not because your main is DK your argument inf your favor. Because one day maybe you want to play another class.
Oh and I forgot, I have two NB, one Khajit stamina and another dunmer vampire magicka with heavy and total survivality and I finish always playing with my robust, tanky, bounce, shielded and nice heals DK.
Thank you and sorry if no one understand my english.
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AlnilamE✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I think you may want to look at some night blade videos. I love my NB. It's the character I play most and I have a lot of fun. I use DW and bow or resto.
You want to look into Mark Target for heals and blur or evasion for dodge. It's not a shield, but if you don't get hit, you take no damage.The Moot Councillor0 -
teladoy✭✭✭✭✭Ok so you are in Cyrodill and there is a fight, you use Piercing mark, you have 20 seconds to kill that player with your friends, meanwhile the enemy DK used Green dragon blood 3 times without major efforts, not only that, he also recover stamina, to keep spaming Brawler and etc.
Piercing mark is ok if you are in a zerg fight. But is no gonna save you if for some reason someone snipe you from who knows where, but that's not a problem for a DK, he use green dragon blood, shield up, and reflective skills.0 -
pppontus✭✭✭✭✭
✭If you play magicka you go for dark cloak and healing ward resto offbar.
As stamina you rely on dodge rolls and blur, which completely removes damage rather than you having to heal. Also get a 2h and rally for that little healing you need. You might like daggers for whatever reason, but if it's not working for you - change it. Don't ask for a revamp of the game because your build isn't working.
Just came off a pvp session solo with something like 150 kills and less than 10 deaths as a stamina nb, and not a single time did I attack out of stealth cuz ganking is boring. You survive by avoiding damage, not by healing or shielding, as a stam NB.0