Crafted Sets need a revamp - Not enough options for stam builds

reften · April 2015

tl:dr - Now that stamina builds are much more viable, I recommend that the teams looks at the options players have for crafted items as only 3 of the 23 set options are viable. Can we add some additional crafted sets with bonus to weapon crit, stam, stam regen, and weapon dam?

Right now, for a stam DPS, we really only have three legit options. Night's Silence, Ashen's grip, and Hundlings Rage.

Tanks have 7 or 8 viable options, and Magicka builds have 9 options.

Additionally, because a mixed build seems to be extremely rare, and a good way to gimp your character (i.e. stam and magicka attacks, or 1/2 tank 1/2 DPS) there are 4 sets that are nearly useless.

Very imbalanced.

So not asking you to change any of the below...I'm sure players for a variety of reasons find value in all of them which I may disagree with...can't we add some additional crafted sets?

Stam Build Crafted Options
Night’s Silence // 2 trait
Ashen’s Grip // 2 trait
Hundlings Rage // 6 trait

Tank Build Crafted Options
Death’s Wind // 2 trait
Whitesnake Retribution // 4 trait (I know it’s Whitestrake

)
Hist Bark // 4 trait
Alessia’s Bulwark // 5 trait
Vamps Kiss // 5 trait
Orgnum’s Scales // 8 trait
Shalidor’s curse // 8 trait

Magicka Build Crafted Options
Torug’s pack // 2 trait (Has weapon dam increase, but players only use 2 or 3 traits on this for boost to spell power and health)
Seducer // 3 trait
Twilight’s Embrace // 3 trait
Magnus Gift // 4 trait
Song of Lamae // 5 trait
Willow’s Path // 6 trait
Spectre’s Eye // 8 trait
Eye’s of Mara // 8 trait
Kagrenac’s Hope // 8 trait

Mixture & useless to most
Night mothers
Oblivion’s foe
Way of Arena
Twice Born Star

golfer.dub17_ESO · April 2015

I think a lot of the current sets also need rebalanced, but anyways...

First thing that bothers me, there isn't a lot of stamina regeneration sets, while there are a TON of them that give bonus weapon damage. I wish we had a stamina equivalent of the seducer set. Yes, we do have way of the air, but I'm talking about crafted sets.

Please, no more weapon damage and weapon crit sets. We have Ravagers, Hundings, Morag Tong, Dreugh King, Night Mothers, Torug's Pact...

Ashen Grip, I don't think anyone uses it for the five piece. An occassional 1k fire damage doesn't really compare to a constant +300 buff to weapon damage.

whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO · April 2015

yup, still waiting for a Stamina set that is equal to the warlock set, instead of magicka flood we get Stamina Flood

for the 5 piece.

idk · April 2015

The number of craftable sets is irrelevant. The quality of craftable sets is what matters. One shouldn't need stamina regen. I haven't needed it in a set bonus. Long term aoe is the only time I drain stamina. Single target one shouldn't have an issue. Of course pots are keeping the stamina up.

5 hunding's rage and 3 ashens gives decent weapon damage. I think that is more than any of the magika sets provide spell damage. For most damage skills 1 point weapon damage is about 11 points stamina.

idk · April 2015

Also, expect more 9 trait sets to come out. That is where I expect/hope for better sets. Something worthy of the effort of doing the research. I have heard (rumor) that this is planned.

reften · April 2015

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

The number of craftable sets is irrelevant. The quality of craftable sets is what matters. One shouldn't need stamina regen. I haven't needed it in a set bonus. Long term aoe is the only time I drain stamina. Single target one shouldn't have an issue. Of course pots are keeping the stamina up.

5 hunding's rage and 3 ashens gives decent weapon damage. I think that is more than any of the magika sets provide spell damage. For most damage skills 1 point weapon damage is about 11 points stamina.

Agreed. But I also think we need one set with the two piece bonus is a boost to weapon damage.

Kelleton · April 2015

Morag tong
Eagle Eye (way underrated)

Bfish22090 · April 2015

They could add jewelry crafting to crafted sets

reften · April 2015

Kelleton wrote: »

Morag tong
Eagle Eye (way underrated)

Talking about crafted sets

Prizax · April 2015

Some days ago I read about a new set that required 7 traits for stamina build which the 5 bonus is like the ravager but with lower weapon damage... the problem is the time ZoS takes to release it.

Vaerth · April 2015

oren74 wrote: »

tl:dr - Now that stamina builds are much more viable, I recommend that the teams looks at the options players have for crafted items as only 3 of the 23 set options are viable. Can we add some additional crafted sets with bonus to weapon crit, stam, stam regen, and weapon dam?

Right now, for a stam DPS, we really only have three legit options. Night's Silence, Ashen's grip, and Hundlings Rage.

Tanks have 7 or 8 viable options, and Magicka builds have 9 options.

Additionally, because a mixed build seems to be extremely rare, and a good way to gimp your character (i.e. stam and magicka attacks, or 1/2 tank 1/2 DPS) there are 4 sets that are nearly useless.

Very imbalanced.

So not asking you to change any of the below...I'm sure players for a variety of reasons find value in all of them which I may disagree with...can't we add some additional crafted sets?

Stam Build Crafted Options
Night’s Silence // 2 trait
Ashen’s Grip // 2 trait
Hundlings Rage // 6 trait

Tank Build Crafted Options
Death’s Wind // 2 trait
Whitesnake Retribution // 4 trait (I know it’s Whitestrake )
Hist Bark // 4 trait
Alessia’s Bulwark // 5 trait
Vamps Kiss // 5 trait
Orgnum’s Scales // 8 trait
Shalidor’s curse // 8 trait

Magicka Build Crafted Options
Torug’s pack // 2 trait (Has weapon dam increase, but players only use 2 or 3 traits on this for boost to spell power and health)
Seducer // 3 trait
Twilight’s Embrace // 3 trait
Magnus Gift // 4 trait
Song of Lamae // 5 trait
Willow’s Path // 6 trait
Spectre’s Eye // 8 trait
Eye’s of Mara // 8 trait
Kagrenac’s Hope // 8 trait

Mixture & useless to most
Night mothers
Oblivion’s foe
Way of Arena
Twice Born Star

There are plenty for Stamina users

OdinForge · April 2015

I use Oblivion's Foe..as a stam..

But i do agree.

reften · April 2015

Prizax wrote: »

Some days ago I read about a new set that required 7 traits for stamina build which the 5 bonus is like the ravager but with lower weapon damage... the problem is the time ZoS takes to release it.

you have a link on this?

lihentian · April 2015

most of the set need crafting location.. at least i can't find anywhere to craft night mother set

reften · April 2015

lihentian wrote: »

most of the set need crafting location.. at least i can't find anywhere to craft night mother set

Quick online search can help ya here.

Need a Seducer style set...where the five piece reduces the cost of stamina abilities.

And a real vamps set, where the 5th piece provides a ton of fire resist.

How about a set where there is a 10% when hit to regain X amount of stamina?

Lord_Kreegan · April 2015

I find most of the sets severely lacking... period.

Noting that I'm not a min-max'er trying to maximize DPS...

I use Seducer with "of the Warlock" jewelry on my two Templars since that class has a severe magicka problem unless they spend most of their time using heavy attacks from a Restoration Staff (relying on animation canceling to use skills).

But I use Death's Wind on all of my other characters; DK's (tanks), Nightblades, even my two Sorcerors. Both of my sorc's seem to never run out of magicka, so that's not an issue, but their survivability is an issue (even with shields). The 5-piece set bonus (knockdown) for Death's Wind is a godsend for all three classes: a chance to kill, heal, or run as appropriate.

Xendyn · April 2015

Lord_Kreegan wrote: »

I find most of the sets severely lacking... period.

This^
They all need some reworking after all the changes with 1.6 along with some of the dropped sets.
I agree you stam guys need some crafted set love.