Late Night Talk with Sheliza "The Unkillable"

TagaParti · April 2015

Hello guys,

I'm back!

For the past several weeks since ESO 1.6 update, I was not able to play much. Players ingame and here in the forums have been looking and waiting for me. I was surprised to see my name (specially my character Sheliza) being mentioned on several threads when I went to check the forums. Ingame, I am constantly receiving mails from players, asking me; where have I been, hows Sheliza doing post 1.5, how or what is the Unkillable build, hows my nightblade, and all those kinds of stuffs.

I admit that with all the threads I created, I have also made a considerable number of critics and believers. But we can't deny that those threads have created some sort of entertainment, for those critics and believers alike. More popcorns was sold.

Therefore, I would love to talk or discuss with you guys about the game, specially my builds and my characters. And may I ask a favor to ZOS that let this thread run limitless, whatever comments will be made. For a very competitive game like this, heated arguments are inevitable. Though they are free to remove comments which they feel unnecessary, unrelated, or harmful towards other players' feelings. But I can assure that I can tolerate any negative comments towards me.

Let's start the discussion with how Sheliza is doing right now. I would still say and insist until now that Sheliza is Unkillable before 1.6 was launched. That fight with Sypher, posted on youtube was a thrown fight to let others see my character.

Believe me or not, it is up to you guys. Sypher is a great player, fact is, he is the one I look up to before going to PVP. I used his magicka build before. And I have always wanted to be an extra in those youtube videos he is making. That's it, that 50k challenge was to catch his attention, and with the Unkillable getting a name it is given that Sypher will post a video of a fight with Sheliza, if Sheliza will be defeated. And so I let him win with him thinking that he really defeated the Unkillable. Don't get me wrong here, I am not starting a fight with Sypher, I am just explaining why I consider Sheliza was really Unkillable in 1.5.

1.6 update was a different story, at least at the beginning where I tried not to tweak much about my build. I was still very hard to kill, in fact still impossible to kill for others. But I was killed by those excellent players. The first one who killed me 1on1 in 1.6 was Philelectric, then a sorc whose name I can't recall, Sypher on a chance encounter, Ezareth. Ezareth got a video on youtube showing our fight. Those fights lasted more than 10 minutes. I didn't bother with it, coz I have been busy with some things in real life.

Then for a week now that I can say I have played much, things have changed. I started to tweak my build. I started to farm exp for CP and I was able to reach Champion Rank 230. Don't drop your popcorns, I was just kidding. (lol) Ok no more fooling around. I am currently at Champion rank 104.

We all know that all our characters was nerf, or should I say our stats was brought down to give way to the Champion System passives. It is like nerfing our stats to -25%, and after you've put 100 CP to 1 passive then you can have that 25% back. There were more Champion passives, taken from different factors affecting our characters. For my Unkillable build which relies on the core concept of self-sustaining, I was hurt the most. My self-sustaining concept follows a certain rotation of stats which in some way I can say it is a little bit hybrid, but it is really not.

I needed to think again on how to rebuild the Unkillable build. Sheliza was messed up and she needed some tweaks. Day by day, test by test, every bit of changes and analysis, Sheliza is now on the right track to her title. It's been a weekend where noone can kill her 1on1, no matter what class or build the opponent have. I know it is nowhere near her perfect build, not yet, and maybe just few days from now until I meet the next 1 who can kill Sheliza, then I have to tweak her again. But so far so good, and I can say that eventually she will end up where she stands before. Although players had tell me that I am indeed unkillable this past few days because they really can't kill me, I won't say the build was rebuilt. I am still on the process of rebuilding it, and now I am considering to make all gears legendary. It was always a purple for me, maybe it is the right time to spend some mats on my gears.

Maybe some of you guys are thinking right now that you can kill me. I am the Unkillable but I just don't want to say that I am back at 100% Unkillable build now.

But you can try at your own risk, and I am warning those who want to try;
- wrecking blow damages my hp by up to 5% with my shield up
- trying to drop my shield? i can break free with no worry that my stamina will be drained
- draining my stamina? impossible
- i can use dragon blood at will
- heal debuff? i got major and minor healing buff and can heal using both stamina and magicka

I got the ultimate defense with no need of any damage shield. Just stand there, block, break free if I must, heal at times. Throw in some damage, dots, disable the opponent, debuff, of course he can heal, can roll dodge, can become invisible, can use several damage shields, and he can get more tired than me. In the end he will be defeated, or run to surrender, or kneel to show respect. Sometimes I was targeted by players in Cyro due to being known as the Unkillable, sometimes they dont bother to try killing me.

I have revealed my skill build on another thread, I still use some of it. But for now, I want to keep it to myself the gears I am using. It is fun when you can kill most players because of your very high DPS, but trust me, it is more fun when noone can kill you.

Regarding my nightblade, I think he can be better than Sheliza. But it's hard to level from vr1-vr14 now.

SienneYviete · April 2015

Wow a solo circle jerk thread.......... i'm impressed, keep up the good work.

Soulac · April 2015

halfbadger · April 2015

Being unkillable in 1.5 was *** easy but you were not unkillable as you died. Part of being unkillable is having the mindset to not let someone kill you.

MoneyOverEverything · April 2015

Didn`t read, but pls remove the "unkillable" cuz every time a human lies, Jesus cry

Lhorion · April 2015

1. Zenimax should close this thread because of lies never have been good for a forum.
2. "The Unkillable" never has existed. Sypher killed you without have skilled passive skills. In this fight you can see that you tried to survive. You were out of magicka, dodged his banner twice, waited for the reg-tick, dodged again and died cause there was no magicka left.
3. The S&B Magicka build was not "Syphers" build. A magicka build existed since beta and thousands of DKs did one thing to get a gapcloser + less damage: They took S&B.

Etaniel · April 2015

This post gives me the giggles

Ryuho · April 2015

Full heavy, nirn trait.. Block reduction glyphs, block reduction CP.. And welcome in 1.6 world of unkillable perma blockers... And If you are a sypho tank, just throw caltrops to recover free stam/mp - more perma block

LegendaryMage · April 2015

I'm not sure I understand, you were unkillable, but now aren't, but on good track to become again, but not sure when and how, but sure you will?

Soulac · April 2015

LegendaryMage wrote: »

I'm not sure I understand, you were unkillable, but now aren't, but on good track to become again, but not sure when and how, but sure you will?

Maaaaaage

Lhorion · April 2015

LegendaryMage wrote: »

I'm not sure I understand, you were unkillable, but now aren't, but on good track to become again, but not sure when and how, but sure you will?

He never was, he always dreamed about beeing famous. He got it! He is famous! But..... Big Boss the Dark Phoenix is famous, too...

Dositheus · April 2015

I always thought Blinxey was the only unkillable. I think if you ask Blinxey about how to adjust your build, you'll truly become the Unkillable.

Karamis_Vimardon · April 2015

Lhorion wrote: »

LegendaryMage wrote: »

I'm not sure I understand, you were unkillable, but now aren't, but on good track to become again, but not sure when and how, but sure you will?

He never was, he always dreamed about beeing famous. He got it! He is famous! But..... Big Boss the Dark Phoenix is famous, too...

Infamous, infamous is the word that should be used

TagaParti · April 2015

Lhorion wrote: »

1. Zenimax should close this thread because of lies never have been good for a forum.
2. "The Unkillable" never has existed. Sypher killed you without have skilled passive skills. In this fight you can see that you tried to survive. You were out of magicka, dodged his banner twice, waited for the reg-tick, dodged again and died cause there was no magicka left.
3. The S&B Magicka build was not "Syphers" build. A magicka build existed since beta and thousands of DKs did one thing to get a gapcloser + less damage: They took S&B.

watch closely how i dropped my block.

TagaParti · April 2015

Ryuho wrote: »

Full heavy, nirn trait.. Block reduction glyphs, block reduction CP.. And welcome in 1.6 world of unkillable perma blockers... And If you are a sypho tank, just throw caltrops to recover free stam/mp - more perma block

im not a fan of nirn traits

TagaParti · April 2015

LegendaryMage wrote: »

I'm not sure I understand, you were unkillable, but now aren't, but on good track to become again, but not sure when and how, but sure you will?

should I explain it to you further? that means letting you read that whole thing again

TagaParti · April 2015

Dositheus wrote: »

I always thought Blinxey was the only unkillable. I think if you ask Blinxey about how to adjust your build, you'll truly become the Unkillable.

I dont even know him, but for sure he knew Sheliza. Maybe, he's the apprentice of my apprentice

Soulac · April 2015

You're worse than a 6 year old on coffee.

LegendaryMage · April 2015

TagaParti wrote: »

LegendaryMage wrote: »

I'm not sure I understand, you were unkillable, but now aren't, but on good track to become again, but not sure when and how, but sure you will?

should I explain it to you further? that means letting you read that whole thing again

I could understand if you were a great dueler and were doing it for the fun. But trying to dominate the game and claim you're the best there ever was, or ever is, is just wrong my friend. I'm sorry to have to be the one to break it to you, but everyone dies in this game sooner or later. Everyone. That's a fact. No one is unkillable and no one can go undefeated forever.

You can 'throw' as many fights as you want, but you know what I'm telling you is true. So better let go off it sooner than later. The few people who will buy into the hype will go away eventually when they see you're no where near what you claim to be, and the rest already dislikes you.

I'm only telling you this because I feel sorry for anyone to go through all this needlessly. Maybe you're just too young, I don't know...

Lhorion wrote: »

He never was, he always dreamed about beeing famous. He got it! He is famous! But..... Big Boss the Dark Phoenix is famous, too...

Oh, I get it now...

TagaParti · April 2015

Soulac wrote: »

You're worse than a 6 year old on coffee.

I dont like caffeine, sorry.

TagaParti · April 2015

LegendaryMage wrote: »

TagaParti wrote: »

LegendaryMage wrote: »

I'm not sure I understand, you were unkillable, but now aren't, but on good track to become again, but not sure when and how, but sure you will?

should I explain it to you further? that means letting you read that whole thing again

I could understand if you were a great dueler and were doing it for the fun. But trying to dominate the game and claim you're the best there ever was, or ever is, is just wrong my friend. I'm sorry to have to be the one to break it to you, but everyone dies in this game sooner or later. Everyone. That's a fact. No one is unkillable and no one can go undefeated forever.

You can 'throw' as many fights as you want, but you know what I'm telling you is true. So better let go off it sooner than later. The few people who will buy into the hype will go away eventually when they see you're no where near what you claim to be, and the rest already dislikes you.

I'm only telling you this because I feel sorry for anyone to go through all this needlessly. Maybe you're just too young, I don't know...

Everyone in this game dies as you said. That means I being Unkillable is the best then? You just explained why I am the best. Thanks!

Zargorius · April 2015

Is this Comedy Central?

Soulac · April 2015

TagaParti wrote: »

Soulac wrote: »

You're worse than a 6 year old on coffee.

I dont like caffeine, sorry.

Lhorion · April 2015

TagaParti wrote: »

Lhorion wrote: »

1. Zenimax should close this thread because of lies never have been good for a forum.
2. "The Unkillable" never has existed. Sypher killed you without have skilled passive skills. In this fight you can see that you tried to survive. You were out of magicka, dodged his banner twice, waited for the reg-tick, dodged again and died cause there was no magicka left.
3. The S&B Magicka build was not "Syphers" build. A magicka build existed since beta and thousands of DKs did one thing to get a gapcloser + less damage: They took S&B.

watch closely how i dropped my block.

Let me explain the game mechanics to you.
1. You can block by holding the right mouse button.
2. You cannot block while dodging.
3. After your dodgerole there is a short time you can be damaged and you cannot block. Your block activates after this short time. There is one armour set that increases the dodge time so the time you can be hit is less. You did not wear this set so: After dodging there is a short time Sypher can CC you and damage you.
4. Your dodgerole was your dead. You dodges, Sypher did his CC in this short time you could not block. Even if you spammed your right mouse button you were not able to block in this time. The CC came and you died.
5. Watch closely how he duped you.
6. Have a nice day.

LegendaryMage · April 2015

TagaParti wrote: »

[Everyone in this game dies as you said. That means I being Unkillable is the best then? You just explained why I am the best. Thanks!

I'll try one more time with a more in-game approach style. If the game was perfectly balanced, and there were no gaps in terms of builds/skills/champion points or whatever. Assume perfect balance. And you were truly unkillable while at the same time killing everyone with ease, then you would be the best player around for sure. Or unkillable or whatever it is that you are claiming.

But this is just a fantasy Sheliza, none of this is true and it never will be. There is no one unkillable and there is no 'best player' in this game. There is only a certain 'class' in terms of skill which you can get into after a lot of practice and pvp'ing or dueling or whatever and more and more people are slowly getting there as time goes by. That's all there really is to it. Make peace with it please.

TLDR: There is no one unkillable. There is no best player in this game. It's impossible to say. I've dueled a lot of top players and I can't make my pick who's the greatest of them all. They're all great. I'm sure you are too but keep it real please.

TagaParti · April 2015

Lhorion wrote: »

TagaParti wrote: »

Lhorion wrote: »

1. Zenimax should close this thread because of lies never have been good for a forum.
2. "The Unkillable" never has existed. Sypher killed you without have skilled passive skills. In this fight you can see that you tried to survive. You were out of magicka, dodged his banner twice, waited for the reg-tick, dodged again and died cause there was no magicka left.
3. The S&B Magicka build was not "Syphers" build. A magicka build existed since beta and thousands of DKs did one thing to get a gapcloser + less damage: They took S&B.

watch closely how i dropped my block.

Let me explain the game mechanics to you.
1. You can block by holding the right mouse button.
2. You cannot block while dodging.
3. After your dodgerole there is a short time you can be damaged and you cannot block. Your block activates after this short time. There is one armour set that increases the dodge time so the time you can be hit is less. You did not wear this set so: After dodging there is a short time Sypher can CC you and damage you.
4. Your dodgerole was your dead. You dodges, Sypher did his CC in this short time you could not block. Even if you spammed your right mouse button you were not able to block in this time. The CC came and you died.
5. Watch closely how he duped you.
6. Have a nice day.

Is that all the mechanics you know? Please dont duel with good players, you wont last a minute.

TagaParti · April 2015

LegendaryMage wrote: »

TagaParti wrote: »

[Everyone in this game dies as you said. That means I being Unkillable is the best then? You just explained why I am the best. Thanks!

I'll try one more time with a more in-game approach style. If the game was perfectly balanced, and there were no gaps in terms of builds/skills/champion points or whatever. Assume perfect balance. And you were truly unkillable while at the same time killing everyone with ease, then you would be the best player around for sure. Or unkillable or whatever it is that you are claiming.

But this is just a fantasy Sheliza, none of this is true and it never will be. There is no one unkillable and there is no 'best player' in this game. There is only a certain 'class' in terms of skill which you can get into after a lot of practice and pvp'ing or dueling or whatever and more and more people are slowly getting there as time goes by. That's all there really is to it. Make peace with it please.

TLDR: There is no one unkillable. There is no best player in this game. It's impossible to say. I've dueled a lot of top players and I can't make my pick who's the greatest of them all. They're all great. I'm sure you are too but keep it real please.

I have said it once in one of my old threads, I will say it again. There are lots of good builds, builds who can kill lots of players 1on1, but they can also be killed. So that makes them same level with same good builds who can kill but also can be killed. Then here comes the Unkillable build, it can kill too, but it cant be killed. In real life, and in ESO, the one that cant be killed is the one on top of the food chain. The one on top of the food chain is undeniably the best. I hope you know now whos the best.

Lhorion · April 2015

TagaParti wrote: »

Lhorion wrote: »

TagaParti wrote: »

Lhorion wrote: »

1. Zenimax should close this thread because of lies never have been good for a forum.
2. "The Unkillable" never has existed. Sypher killed you without have skilled passive skills. In this fight you can see that you tried to survive. You were out of magicka, dodged his banner twice, waited for the reg-tick, dodged again and died cause there was no magicka left.
3. The S&B Magicka build was not "Syphers" build. A magicka build existed since beta and thousands of DKs did one thing to get a gapcloser + less damage: They took S&B.

watch closely how i dropped my block.

Let me explain the game mechanics to you.
1. You can block by holding the right mouse button.
2. You cannot block while dodging.
3. After your dodgerole there is a short time you can be damaged and you cannot block. Your block activates after this short time. There is one armour set that increases the dodge time so the time you can be hit is less. You did not wear this set so: After dodging there is a short time Sypher can CC you and damage you.
4. Your dodgerole was your dead. You dodges, Sypher did his CC in this short time you could not block. Even if you spammed your right mouse button you were not able to block in this time. The CC came and you died.
5. Watch closely how he duped you.
6. Have a nice day.

Is that all the mechanics you know? Please dont duel with good players, you wont last a minute.

If you want you can ask some guys here in the thread if I can duel with good players.
And you should test the dodge-thing. Sypher's video is great to show this mechanic.

Soulac · April 2015

TagaParti wrote: »

LegendaryMage wrote: »

TagaParti wrote: »

[Everyone in this game dies as you said. That means I being Unkillable is the best then? You just explained why I am the best. Thanks!

I'll try one more time with a more in-game approach style. If the game was perfectly balanced, and there were no gaps in terms of builds/skills/champion points or whatever. Assume perfect balance. And you were truly unkillable while at the same time killing everyone with ease, then you would be the best player around for sure. Or unkillable or whatever it is that you are claiming.

But this is just a fantasy Sheliza, none of this is true and it never will be. There is no one unkillable and there is no 'best player' in this game. There is only a certain 'class' in terms of skill which you can get into after a lot of practice and pvp'ing or dueling or whatever and more and more people are slowly getting there as time goes by. That's all there really is to it. Make peace with it please.

TLDR: There is no one unkillable. There is no best player in this game. It's impossible to say. I've dueled a lot of top players and I can't make my pick who's the greatest of them all. They're all great. I'm sure you are too but keep it real please.

I have said it once in one of my old threads, I will say it again. There are lots of good builds, builds who can kill lots of players 1on1, but they can also be killed. So that makes them same level with same good builds who can kill but also can be killed. Then here comes the Unkillable build, it can kill too, but it cant be killed. In real life, and in ESO, the one that cant be killed is the one on top of the food chain. The one on top of the food chain is undeniably the best. I hope you know now whos the best.

If you follow that logic, my level 6 DK is the best in this game, since he's unkillable and never died. Also I'm able to kill at least 40 sheep's at once, that will proof how op I am.
No Equip needed and you're able to watch stuff while playing.

Dekkameron · April 2015

Oh dear, not more of this junk...

TagaParti · April 2015

Lhorion wrote: »

TagaParti wrote: »

Lhorion wrote: »

TagaParti wrote: »

Lhorion wrote: »

1. Zenimax should close this thread because of lies never have been good for a forum.
2. "The Unkillable" never has existed. Sypher killed you without have skilled passive skills. In this fight you can see that you tried to survive. You were out of magicka, dodged his banner twice, waited for the reg-tick, dodged again and died cause there was no magicka left.
3. The S&B Magicka build was not "Syphers" build. A magicka build existed since beta and thousands of DKs did one thing to get a gapcloser + less damage: They took S&B.

watch closely how i dropped my block.

Let me explain the game mechanics to you.
1. You can block by holding the right mouse button.
2. You cannot block while dodging.
3. After your dodgerole there is a short time you can be damaged and you cannot block. Your block activates after this short time. There is one armour set that increases the dodge time so the time you can be hit is less. You did not wear this set so: After dodging there is a short time Sypher can CC you and damage you.
4. Your dodgerole was your dead. You dodges, Sypher did his CC in this short time you could not block. Even if you spammed your right mouse button you were not able to block in this time. The CC came and you died.
5. Watch closely how he duped you.
6. Have a nice day.

Is that all the mechanics you know? Please dont duel with good players, you wont last a minute.

If you want you can ask some guys here in the thread if I can duel with good players.
And you should test the dodge-thing. Sypher's video is great to show this mechanic.

You know what, youre like telling me that Molag Bal is the main antagonist in the game story, everyone know it. Oh come on man, dont teach me basic things when Im the one who was able to make the perfect build in the game.