Potions in Cyrodil...

shane.roberts25b14_ESO · April 2015

Who's bright idea was it to scale players to a certain level, turbo charge their stats, but not give them an option for potions/consumables that are worth anything? Took my lvl 10 in to the special campaign, got boosted to 29k hp, but the best potion I can use only restores about 1k hp... therefore->useless. Any plans in the works to address this issue?
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Dositheus · April 2015

Level up?

Galalin · April 2015

Why not ask for legendary v14 stats and gear also... after all that was 30 whole mins of grinding to get up to lvl 10... cmon ZoS lets get this fixed.

DK SCRUB OUT

NadiusMaximus · April 2015

Why get boosted at all.
Low ranks should be just that. They should be relegated to being in the rear as support and siege while upper ranks protect them and rush the walls. It's more real this way.

Garion · April 2015

NadiusMaximus wrote: »

Why get boosted at all.
Low ranks should be just that. They should be relegated to being in the rear as support and siege while upper ranks protect them and rush the walls. It's more real this way.

Actually in a real war the higher ranks sit at the back while the lower ranks run in (with a few middle rankers right at the front to make sure the cannon fodder don't lose heart).

In any case and as I have said before, realism shouldn't dictate how things work in this game. It's a game, after all.

shane.roberts25b14_ESO · April 2015

Galalin wrote: »

Why not ask for legendary v14 stats and gear also... after all that was 30 whole mins of grinding to get up to lvl 10... cmon ZoS lets get this fixed.

DK SCRUB OUT

Honestly, I don't want v12 stats... I have toons for that. I would rather Cyrodil not be boosted at all, that all attacks/abilities worked exactly the same in PvP as they did in PvE, and that ZOS would quit nerfing the crap out of everything, forcing me to create new toons because my old ones were made obsolete. I rarely ever play my v12 now because 1.6 crippled her, and I have no quests, world bosses, etc left to do to level new skill trees...

NadiusMaximus wrote: »

Why get boosted at all.
Low ranks should be just that. They should be relegated to being in the rear as support and siege while upper ranks protect them and rush the walls. It's more real this way.

^^^ Would it be so much to ask to have 1 campaign where ZOS just left everything alone? No boosts, no nerfs, no "this ability does this, except against other players, where it does this" crap... Worried about low levels complaining that they are getting stomped by v8,10,12,14? Make 1 campaign non vet and 1 vet...

But back on point, if you are going to scale EVERYTHING, including stats, consumables should be scaled as well. Either allow me to craft food/potions (that will actually scale) on my v12 to give to my lowbies, change potions to restore a percentage of max instead of a set number ( and before the "but then a v14 has no reason to get high level potions" argument comes out, ZOS could make it so its just like soul gems: once you out-level them, you cant use them anymore), or create scaled consumables to be sold by siege merchants which can only be used in Cyrodil. Don't scale everything, then hang my sorc or nb out to dry (these classes have no self heal abilities which even come close to DK's Dragon Blood or Templar's entire Restoring Light tree)...

Minnesinger · April 2015

I think it is fair to boost the low level players but to make them stand equal to vr14s is too much. They must have something to respect and get inspiration. When they will finally get vr14 can they wreck these players all day and night.

golfer.dub17_ESO · April 2015

I think it is fair to boost the low level players but to make them stand equal to vr14s is too much. They must have something to respect and get inspiration. When they will finally get vr14 can they wreck these players all day and night.

A friend and I were hanging around in Chorrol, both Veteran 14. Friend is a PvE tank, not even specced for PvP. He's off doing something in another part of town.

Suddenly a level 17 runs up, and starts spamming jabs and javelins at me, doing like absolutely no damage.
I just sit there and let it happen, actually tried to "surrender".
Get bored, start hitting him down to near death, then stop and let him keep at it.
He didn't take the hint.

He's literally doing so little that I have time to tell my friend about it in chat and call him over for a good laugh.

Eventually my friend comes over, starts wailing on the guy, I tell him to stop and give him one more chance to surrender.

Nope, he still keeps at it. We destroy him.

Maybe that guy was left with awe. Maybe he just quits altogether.

Anazasi · April 2015

Wait till your level 10has to use grand gems to rez. ha ha the logic escapes me.

Psilent · April 2015

shane.roberts25b14_ESO wrote: »

Galalin wrote: »

Why not ask for legendary v14 stats and gear also... after all that was 30 whole mins of grinding to get up to lvl 10... cmon ZoS lets get this fixed.

DK SCRUB OUT

Honestly, I don't want v12 stats... I have toons for that. I would rather Cyrodil not be boosted at all, that all attacks/abilities worked exactly the same in PvP as they did in PvE, and that ZOS would quit nerfing the crap out of everything, forcing me to create new toons because my old ones were made obsolete. I rarely ever play my v12 now because 1.6 crippled her, and I have no quests, world bosses, etc left to do to level new skill trees...

NadiusMaximus wrote: »

Why get boosted at all.
Low ranks should be just that. They should be relegated to being in the rear as support and siege while upper ranks protect them and rush the walls. It's more real this way.

^^^ Would it be so much to ask to have 1 campaign where ZOS just left everything alone? No boosts, no nerfs, no "this ability does this, except against other players, where it does this" crap... Worried about low levels complaining that they are getting stomped by v8,10,12,14? Make 1 campaign non vet and 1 vet...

But back on point, if you are going to scale EVERYTHING, including stats, consumables should be scaled as well. Either allow me to craft food/potions (that will actually scale) on my v12 to give to my lowbies, change potions to restore a percentage of max instead of a set number ( and before the "but then a v14 has no reason to get high level potions" argument comes out, ZOS could make it so its just like soul gems: once you out-level them, you cant use them anymore), or create scaled consumables to be sold by siege merchants which can only be used in Cyrodil. Don't scale everything, then hang my sorc or nb out to dry (these classes have no self heal abilities which even come close to DK's Dragon Blood or Templar's entire Restoring Light tree)...

Battle level stops at Veteran Rank 1. We used to have a Veteran only campaign, Bow of Shadows, but it wasn't popular and was shutdown; replaced by Azura's Star.

Kupoking · April 2015

you know what does scale to max level?

Siege damage.

Use it, be op

Kartalin · April 2015

shane.roberts25b14_ESO wrote: »

I rarely ever play my v12 now because 1.6 crippled her, and I have no quests, world bosses, etc left to do to level new skill trees...

Cyrodiil gives you pretty decent exp right now. And seriously, crippled because you have nothing left to do?

After I finished Cadwell's gold and reached vet 14, here are a few skill lines I've maxed out:

2 Handed (never even used it prior to v14)
Destro staff
Resto staff
Light armor
Heavy armor
Vampire (bitten at v14)
Werewolf (devoured at v14)

And to be honest, I grinded out a lot of those in Bangkorai (v10 zone).

vyndral13preub18_ESO · April 2015

I've been robbed! My VR3 with 15k health got boosted to 19k health! I want 29k health! I cry foul!

The potion thing is pretty funny.

Sylvyr · April 2015

New crown store item. V10 potions that can be used at any level.

AhPook_Is_Here · April 2015

NadiusMaximus wrote: »

Why get boosted at all.
Low ranks should be just that. They should be relegated to being in the rear as support and siege while upper ranks protect them and rush the walls. It's more real this way.

Back in the Iraq days I saw General Tommy Franks tanking all of the Iraqi army dual wielding cruise missiles with twin Vulcan auto-cannons on his shoulders, while all the scrubs and enlistees hid behind his skirts. Yes, he wore a skirt. War don't get more real than that.

shane.roberts25b14_ESO · April 2015

milthalas wrote: »

shane.roberts25b14_ESO wrote: »

I rarely ever play my v12 now because 1.6 crippled her, and I have no quests, world bosses, etc left to do to level new skill trees...

Cyrodiil gives you pretty decent exp right now. And seriously, crippled because you have nothing left to do?

After I finished Cadwell's gold and reached vet 14, here are a few skill lines I've maxed out:
2 Handed (never even used it prior to v14)

Destro staff

Resto staff

Light armor

Heavy armor

Vampire (bitten at v14)

Werewolf (devoured at v14)

And to be honest, I grinded out a lot of those in Bangkorai (v10 zone).

Keyword being GRINDED. We shouldn't have to grind to rebuild our toons because they fundamentally change class/build specs. Give me new content to quest through to learn new skills lines or gtfo.

shane.roberts25b14_ESO · April 2015

Sylvyr wrote: »

New crown store item. V10 potions that can be used at any level.

If it could only be used in Cyrodil, I'm all for it! They say they do this stat boosting to "balance" Cyrodil, but how balanced is it when a lvl 20 and lvl 48 have the same stats, but the level 48 has potions that are 3 times as effective? Either implement FULL balance, or leave it alone altogether!