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✭✭Pixysticks wrote: »
LOL I actually let you kill me 3 times.. as you saw, I never attacked you at all.. and Yes I blocked the meteors, but blocking doesn't help with meteor CC. I was just testing your stuff because of how that tick dealt 19k damage... and since you came out, why don't you explain a TICK dealt more damage than initial damage..
Is blockable.
That, and I highly doubt that one-tick-story. Unless you could show a screenshot of your combat log - wich would be the first tool you'd want to use to understand what happened.Edited by ToRelax on April 19, 2015 9:10AMDAGON - ALTADOON - CHIM - GHARTOK
The Covenant is broken. The Enemy has won...
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Tbh, there's no reason any 1 ability should be able to hit for 66-75% of ones health pool... ever. That includes Meteor, Crystal Fragments, Jesus Beam (aka Radiant Destruction), etc."I used to be an adventurer like you, then I took a nerf-arrow to the knee!"1 -
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Haquor✭✭✭✭✭Id say what happened in the first instance was that you took 2 tics and the death recap added them together. Next time try moving out of the ground aoe quickly to avoid it.0 -
Pixysticks✭✭✭✭✭Pixysticks wrote: »
LOL I actually let you kill me 3 times.. as you saw, I never attacked you at all.. and Yes I blocked the meteors, but blocking doesn't help with meteor CC. I was just testing your stuff because of how that tick dealt 19k damage... and since you came out, why don't you explain a TICK dealt more damage than initial damage..
I can't tell if you're trolling me or in denial. If you let me kill you, why did each time you come back with more and more people to fight me? And why did you heal yourself and them the entire time?Alacrity
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✭✭✭✭Unless you could show a screenshot of your combat log - wich would be the first tool you'd want to use to understand what happened.
Is that even possible? Where would I go to get a look at that.
I play an over-eager Sorc who on (regular) occasion rushes in and of course gets killed - and in say an undaunted dungeon (like the one last night) my death recap shows half the hits being able to take me out completely (so I was dead .. say three times over at least).
The death recap - is that for "the round/attack" of death (i.e. when it shows multiple hits/damages it's tallying up say DoT, hits from multiple peeps and so on)? Or is it for longer?Tenesi Faryon of Telvanni - Dunmer Sorceress who deliberately sought sacrifice into Cold Harbor to rescue her beloved.
Hisa Ni Caemaire - Altmer Sorceress, member of the Order Draconis and Adept of the House of Dibella.
Broken Branch Toothmaul - goblin (for my goblin characters, I use either orsimer or bosmer templates) Templar, member of the Order Draconis and persistently unskilled pickpocket
Mol gro Durga - Orsimer Socerer/Battlemage who died the first time when the Nibenay Valley chapterhouse of the Order Draconis was destroyed, then went back to Cold Harbor to rescue his second/partner who was still captive. He overestimated his resistance to the hopelessness of Oblivion, about to give up, and looked up to see the golden glow of atherius surrounding a beautiful young woman who extended her hand to him and said "I can help you". He carried Fianna Kingsley out of Cold Harbor on his shoulder. He carried Alvard Stower under one arm. He also irritated the Prophet who had intended the portal for only Mol and Lyris.***Order Draconis - well c'mon there has to be some explanation for all those dragon tattoos.
House of Dibella - If you have ever seen or read "Memoirs of a Geisha" that's just the beginning...
Nibenay Valley Chapterhouse - Where now stands only desolate ground and a dolmen there once was a thriving community supporting one of the major chapterhouses of the Order Draconis0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Right....you let the other player kill you because you were "testing' things...
My advice would be to get a combat log, but you most likely will insist it is wrong and you are right just as you have done here to multiple people who have already answered your question.Edited by Joy_Division on April 19, 2015 1:58PMMake Rush of Agony "Monsters only." People should not be consecutively crowd controlled in a PvP setting. Period.1 -
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✭✭newtinmpls wrote: »Unless you could show a screenshot of your combat log - wich would be the first tool you'd want to use to understand what happened.
Is that even possible? Where would I go to get a look at that.
I play an over-eager Sorc who on (regular) occasion rushes in and of course gets killed - and in say an undaunted dungeon (like the one last night) my death recap shows half the hits being able to take me out completely (so I was dead .. say three times over at least).
The death recap - is that for "the round/attack" of death (i.e. when it shows multiple hits/damages it's tallying up say DoT, hits from multiple peeps and so on)? Or is it for longer?
Death recap shows "attacks" wich are added up for DoTs... so that is helpful to see when you let some DoT tick on you to long. Here, we could use a combat log like CLS, to see how big thse ticks actually were.DAGON - ALTADOON - CHIM - GHARTOK
The Covenant is broken. The Enemy has won...
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Death recap shows "attacks" wich are added up for DoTs... so that is helpful to see when you let some DoT tick on you to long. Here, we could use a combat log like CLS, to see how big thse ticks actually were.
Can you translate that in to newbie-player, please?Tenesi Faryon of Telvanni - Dunmer Sorceress who deliberately sought sacrifice into Cold Harbor to rescue her beloved.
Hisa Ni Caemaire - Altmer Sorceress, member of the Order Draconis and Adept of the House of Dibella.
Broken Branch Toothmaul - goblin (for my goblin characters, I use either orsimer or bosmer templates) Templar, member of the Order Draconis and persistently unskilled pickpocket
Mol gro Durga - Orsimer Socerer/Battlemage who died the first time when the Nibenay Valley chapterhouse of the Order Draconis was destroyed, then went back to Cold Harbor to rescue his second/partner who was still captive. He overestimated his resistance to the hopelessness of Oblivion, about to give up, and looked up to see the golden glow of atherius surrounding a beautiful young woman who extended her hand to him and said "I can help you". He carried Fianna Kingsley out of Cold Harbor on his shoulder. He carried Alvard Stower under one arm. He also irritated the Prophet who had intended the portal for only Mol and Lyris.***Order Draconis - well c'mon there has to be some explanation for all those dragon tattoos.
House of Dibella - If you have ever seen or read "Memoirs of a Geisha" that's just the beginning...
Nibenay Valley Chapterhouse - Where now stands only desolate ground and a dolmen there once was a thriving community supporting one of the major chapterhouses of the Order Draconis0 -
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✭✭newtinmpls wrote: »
I didn't mean to say anything complicated, sorry.
So, my original comment that you quoted:[...] Unless you could show a screenshot of your combat log - wich would be the first tool you'd want to use to understand what happened.
There are combat log addons, the most popular being Combat Log Statistics (CLS), for a short-term documentation of what happened during the fight.
CLS will list single ticks of incoming damage (though can not tell what actually hit you, unlike the death recap). Thus, it would tell us wether the OP was right that the Shooting Star ground AoE DoT ticked only once.
The death recap can show you what actually hit you and it sums up everything the game interpretates as DoTs, like the Meteor's ground AoE, Entropy or Deadric Mines. So will tell you if you stand in some AoE for to long for example. If there are large numbers listed for things like Path of Darkness or Entropy, you can learn from that, so the death recap is still useful.
Edit: Path of Darkness or Deadric Mines I meant... it's embarassing how many players complain to me that my mines hit them for 20k ...Edited by ToRelax on April 19, 2015 5:44PMDAGON - ALTADOON - CHIM - GHARTOK
The Covenant is broken. The Enemy has won...
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✭✭✭✭Thanks for the clarification!
So between both CLS and the death recap, you end up with a pretty good idea of just exactly how you died.
I wonder if the /facepalm emote works while I'm in that ghosty state midway through a resurrection?
Tenesi Faryon of Telvanni - Dunmer Sorceress who deliberately sought sacrifice into Cold Harbor to rescue her beloved.
Hisa Ni Caemaire - Altmer Sorceress, member of the Order Draconis and Adept of the House of Dibella.
Broken Branch Toothmaul - goblin (for my goblin characters, I use either orsimer or bosmer templates) Templar, member of the Order Draconis and persistently unskilled pickpocket
Mol gro Durga - Orsimer Socerer/Battlemage who died the first time when the Nibenay Valley chapterhouse of the Order Draconis was destroyed, then went back to Cold Harbor to rescue his second/partner who was still captive. He overestimated his resistance to the hopelessness of Oblivion, about to give up, and looked up to see the golden glow of atherius surrounding a beautiful young woman who extended her hand to him and said "I can help you". He carried Fianna Kingsley out of Cold Harbor on his shoulder. He carried Alvard Stower under one arm. He also irritated the Prophet who had intended the portal for only Mol and Lyris.***Order Draconis - well c'mon there has to be some explanation for all those dragon tattoos.
House of Dibella - If you have ever seen or read "Memoirs of a Geisha" that's just the beginning...
Nibenay Valley Chapterhouse - Where now stands only desolate ground and a dolmen there once was a thriving community supporting one of the major chapterhouses of the Order Draconis0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭newtinmpls wrote: »Thanks for the clarification!
So between both CLS and the death recap, you end up with a pretty good idea of just exactly how you died.
If you happen to have an Nvidia card, i also recommend using Shadowplay (it comes as part of their 'geforce experience' software). It's a program that continuously records the last five minutes of your gameplay (discarding older footage). At any time, you can hit a hotkey and have the last 5 mins of your game saved in a file. Reviewing those videos (frame by frame if need be) gave me a lot of insight into what exactly happened and how things work in ESO.0 -
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✭✭✭✭If I recall correctly I have a titan card on this computer.Tenesi Faryon of Telvanni - Dunmer Sorceress who deliberately sought sacrifice into Cold Harbor to rescue her beloved.
Hisa Ni Caemaire - Altmer Sorceress, member of the Order Draconis and Adept of the House of Dibella.
Broken Branch Toothmaul - goblin (for my goblin characters, I use either orsimer or bosmer templates) Templar, member of the Order Draconis and persistently unskilled pickpocket
Mol gro Durga - Orsimer Socerer/Battlemage who died the first time when the Nibenay Valley chapterhouse of the Order Draconis was destroyed, then went back to Cold Harbor to rescue his second/partner who was still captive. He overestimated his resistance to the hopelessness of Oblivion, about to give up, and looked up to see the golden glow of atherius surrounding a beautiful young woman who extended her hand to him and said "I can help you". He carried Fianna Kingsley out of Cold Harbor on his shoulder. He carried Alvard Stower under one arm. He also irritated the Prophet who had intended the portal for only Mol and Lyris.***Order Draconis - well c'mon there has to be some explanation for all those dragon tattoos.
House of Dibella - If you have ever seen or read "Memoirs of a Geisha" that's just the beginning...
Nibenay Valley Chapterhouse - Where now stands only desolate ground and a dolmen there once was a thriving community supporting one of the major chapterhouses of the Order Draconis0 -
johnyeh87✭✭✭Pixysticks wrote: »Pixysticks wrote: »
LOL I actually let you kill me 3 times.. as you saw, I never attacked you at all.. and Yes I blocked the meteors, but blocking doesn't help with meteor CC. I was just testing your stuff because of how that tick dealt 19k damage... and since you came out, why don't you explain a TICK dealt more damage than initial damage..
I can't tell if you're trolling me or in denial. If you let me kill you, why did each time you come back with more and more people to fight me? And why did you heal yourself and them the entire time?
I am not trolling you.. I only had 1 person in my group.. Others were random.. But as you can tell when I came back to you, did I ever hit you once? I was blocking the whole time.. I thought the first death was fishy, so yeah I came back so you can use meteor on me again so I can see what the damage was compared to the first death.I AM CANADIAN!!!Johny EH?0 -
johnyeh87✭✭✭Pixysticks wrote: »
LOL I actually let you kill me 3 times.. as you saw, I never attacked you at all.. and Yes I blocked the meteors, but blocking doesn't help with meteor CC. I was just testing your stuff because of how that tick dealt 19k damage... and since you came out, why don't you explain a TICK dealt more damage than initial damage..
Is blockable.
That, and I highly doubt that one-tick-story. Unless you could show a screenshot of your combat log - wich would be the first tool you'd want to use to understand what happened.
You can ask Enchanten, he was with me the whole time and saw me blocking.. The first death I did not roll dodge after I broke out of CC because it only did 7.8k damage, but then BAM 18.9k dmg and I was dead.... that was really fishy.. that is why I posted this thread.I AM CANADIAN!!!Johny EH?0 -
Pixysticks✭✭✭✭✭Pixysticks wrote: »Pixysticks wrote: »
LOL I actually let you kill me 3 times.. as you saw, I never attacked you at all.. and Yes I blocked the meteors, but blocking doesn't help with meteor CC. I was just testing your stuff because of how that tick dealt 19k damage... and since you came out, why don't you explain a TICK dealt more damage than initial damage..
I can't tell if you're trolling me or in denial. If you let me kill you, why did each time you come back with more and more people to fight me? And why did you heal yourself and them the entire time?
I am not trolling you.. I only had 1 person in my group.. Others were random.. But as you can tell when I came back to you, did I ever hit you once? I was blocking the whole time.. I thought the first death was fishy, so yeah I came back so you can use meteor on me again so I can see what the damage was compared to the first death.
You're a templar healer, you think holding block and spamming heals on everyone you bring to fight me = letting me kill you 3 times? I think the only thing you've accomplished in this thread is embarrassing yourself.Alacrity
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You can ask Enchanten, he was with me the whole time and saw me blocking.. The first death I did not roll dodge after I broke out of CC because it only did 7.8k damage, but then BAM 18.9k dmg and I was dead.... that was really fishy.. that is why I posted this thread.
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✭✭✭✭What with animation cancelling, lag and other subtle issues, I suspect it's not possible to "see" everything that happens.
Which is why addons to let us look in detail are so needed and so popular.Tenesi Faryon of Telvanni - Dunmer Sorceress who deliberately sought sacrifice into Cold Harbor to rescue her beloved.
Hisa Ni Caemaire - Altmer Sorceress, member of the Order Draconis and Adept of the House of Dibella.
Broken Branch Toothmaul - goblin (for my goblin characters, I use either orsimer or bosmer templates) Templar, member of the Order Draconis and persistently unskilled pickpocket
Mol gro Durga - Orsimer Socerer/Battlemage who died the first time when the Nibenay Valley chapterhouse of the Order Draconis was destroyed, then went back to Cold Harbor to rescue his second/partner who was still captive. He overestimated his resistance to the hopelessness of Oblivion, about to give up, and looked up to see the golden glow of atherius surrounding a beautiful young woman who extended her hand to him and said "I can help you". He carried Fianna Kingsley out of Cold Harbor on his shoulder. He carried Alvard Stower under one arm. He also irritated the Prophet who had intended the portal for only Mol and Lyris.***Order Draconis - well c'mon there has to be some explanation for all those dragon tattoos.
House of Dibella - If you have ever seen or read "Memoirs of a Geisha" that's just the beginning...
Nibenay Valley Chapterhouse - Where now stands only desolate ground and a dolmen there once was a thriving community supporting one of the major chapterhouses of the Order Draconis0 -
Pixysticks✭✭✭✭✭Yes I blocked the meteors, but blocking doesn't help with meteor CC. I was just testing your stuff because of how that tick dealt 19k damage... and since you came out, why don't you explain a TICK dealt more damage than initial damage..The first death I did not roll dodge after I broke out of CC because it only did 7.8k damage, but then BAM 18.9k dmg and I was dead.... that was really fishy.. that is why I posted this thread.
You blocked, but got CC'd and had to break stun out of the CC? You either blocked and didn't get CC'd by the meteor, or you didn't block and got CC'd by the meteor.Alacrity
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I dunno man....Pixysticks wrote: »Yes I blocked the meteors, but blocking doesn't help with meteor CC. I was just testing your stuff because of how that tick dealt 19k damage... and since you came out, why don't you explain a TICK dealt more damage than initial damage..The first death I did not roll dodge after I broke out of CC because it only did 7.8k damage, but then BAM 18.9k dmg and I was dead.... that was really fishy.. that is why I posted this thread.
You blocked, but got CC'd and had to break stun out of the CC? You either blocked and didn't get CC'd by the meteor, or you didn't block and got CC'd by the meteor.
Seems legit.POST EQVITEM SEDET ATRA CVRA
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Pixysticks✭✭✭✭✭But in all honesty, if you had enough stam to hold block, but not enough to absorb the full amount of the meteor, you would get CC'd. That means you didn't have enough stam to break stun though, which means you sat in the meteor's DoT for at least 2-3 seconds before you could move completely out of it, which means what everyone has been saying is true and that's the combination of 3 DoT ticks.Alacrity
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Prospero_ESO✭✭✭✭@OP Really, i dont´t understand the argument. If you think that something fishy is going on report the player, provide evidence and let Zenimax decide what to do. Forum wars lead to nothing. I he exploited in some way he hopefuly get´s his lousy ass banned, if it is a bug hopefuly it get fixed and if it is neither hopefuly you learned something about reading combat logs.1
