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Discrepancies that lead to Weapon Damage Bias

  • Xael
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    Pixysticks wrote: »
    Poxheart wrote: »

    Now with said..Comparing all those to random instant cast nuke Sorcs randomly do is silly.

    The class has 1 nuke, and it's only instant cast as a 35% proc chance of using any other ability besides it.

    I know NBs who snipe for 20k+, I know DKs who heavy attack for more than 20k, the only way I can get the frag to possibly hit for that much is, prepping it with entropy, making sure it's instant cast which is a random proc chance, then it has to crit, and it couldn't have been block/dodged/reflected/cloaked.

    Edit: Go to another thread if you guys want to whine about sorcs guys, how many times has the OP asked to stay on topic.

    QFT
    My NB Snipes for 20k.
    My melee Stam builds do insta 20-30k combos that act like 1 move. Any player can achieve this with the proper gear and abilities. I swear these people are a bunch of crybabies looking for any excuse to dumb things down.

    I built my sorc into a glass cannon as well, however I get splattered so fast by stam builds (when caught unaware) I am usually dead before I knew I was being attacked.

    [Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Trolling & Baiting]
    Edited by ZOS_UlyssesW on April 18, 2015 1:08AM
    I got killed in pvp, nerf everything...
  • Xael
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    Lionxoft wrote: »
    Pixysticks wrote: »
    Poxheart wrote: »

    Now with said..Comparing all those to random instant cast nuke Sorcs randomly do is silly.

    The class has 1 nuke, and it's only instant cast as a 35% proc chance of using any other ability besides it.

    I know NBs who snipe for 20k+, I know DKs who heavy attack for more than 20k, the only way I can get the frag to possibly hit for that much is, prepping it with entropy, making sure it's instant cast which is a random proc chance, then it has to crit, and it couldn't have been block/dodged/reflected/cloaked.

    Edit: Go to another thread if you guys want to whine about sorcs guys, how many times has the OP asked to stay on topic.

    I'm not saying I don't believe you but do you have proof of this? Stealth hits are a completely different ball game. We are talking 15k+ instant cast nukes not stealthed.

    Honestly, I'm not sure why ZOS didn't keep soft caps in some form for PvP. Maybe not the same as 1.5 caps but some form of restriction seems a beneficial change. This wasn't necessarily as big of a problem in 1.5. A blanket flat damage reduction in Cyrodiil isn't going to fix the gaps between abilities, classes or build types. It's just going to make them each hit for lower amounts.

    PS:
    A sorc telling others to stop complaining... That's rich.

    night blades kill me more then any other class in like 1 second flat all the time. mainly from lethal arrows from stealth, hitting me for my full shield plus 18k, who knows how hard that hit really was.

    It's not like you showcase this in one of your videos on youtube or anything, oh wait...
    I got killed in pvp, nerf everything...
  • Lava_Croft
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    1-Crystal frags can be reflected and half the people you face are dks (well maybe not half, but there are a lot of dks). Furthermore anyone can also slot sword and board and a reflect that doesn't animate big flappy wings. So any dk or anyone that chooses to have a defensive option takes ZERO dmg and hits you back with it. If you don't comprehend the inherent risk of reflects to a sorcerer, you obviously don't play one.
    This *** argument needs to be put down. Sorcerers are also very much capable of re-reflecting their own Crystal Shards using Defensive Stance.

  • Huntler
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    Please guys this isn't a sorc complain thread or even a sorc discussion thread, this is spell damage vs weapon damage discrepancies and I want it to get seen because of that, the points I made are things they could quickly/easily change that are important balance wise. Push for that here, go to the 100 other sorc discussion threads.
  • rfennell_ESO
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    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    1-Crystal frags can be reflected and half the people you face are dks (well maybe not half, but there are a lot of dks). Furthermore anyone can also slot sword and board and a reflect that doesn't animate big flappy wings. So any dk or anyone that chooses to have a defensive option takes ZERO dmg and hits you back with it. If you don't comprehend the inherent risk of reflects to a sorcerer, you obviously don't play one.
    This *** argument needs to be put down. Sorcerers are also very much capable of re-reflecting their own Crystal Shards using Defensive Stance.

    The point was that wrecking blow has no such issue.


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