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Will the addition of race changes...?

Anilahation
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Actually promote ZOS to balance the racials... because lets be honest the fact that everyone is either an imperial or 2 other races in Cyrodill kind of says a lot.

" I play my Race Idc about racials"

Yeahhh Yeah good for you, but it's pretty common knowledge the majority are now running imperial.
  • Smaxx
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    Everyone is an Imperial? This one disagrees!
  • AzraelKrieg
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    As long as imperial isn't an option it shouldn't be an issue. My main concern though is people abusing it. And to balance the races they need to fix the racial passives for nords.
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    every build video I watch people are playing imperial Redguard or Altmer... it's kind of like ok ZOS....
  • AzraelKrieg
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    Really? Everyone I see is Imperial or Dunmer. A smattering of Bosmer, Breton and Khajiit here and there but not a lot of altmer or redguard.
    Gold Dragons Guildmaster PC-NACR2000+
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  • xMovingTarget
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    every build video I watch people are playing imperial Redguard or Altmer... it's kind of like ok ZOS....

    You clearly didn't watch mine. WATCH EM!! =)
  • AngryNord
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    yes, after a few months of complaining that the game is Elder Imperials Online they probably will do something.
  • asteldian
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    Meh, I main as a tank and I still don't think I will go imperial. For PvP I love my regen which imperial offers none, would rather be redguard or bosmer.
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    AngryNord wrote: »
    yes, after a few months of complaining that the game is Elder Imperials Online they probably will do something.


    hopefully they will do something... the fact that imperials are also good for magicka builds is silly.
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    #masterrace
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  • Danikat
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    I would assume that at the very least you'd have to have the Imperial edition to swap to an Imperial, which will restrict it a bit.

    I also wonder how this would work for people who don't have the Explorer's/Adventure's Pack and therefore don't have the 'any race in any alliance' unlock. Will they be restricted to just the races in their alliance, or will this be like a one-time version of ARAA?
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  • Prizax
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    Yeah don't worry they will add this option, the problem is when I just hope like in a month ;)
  • Rook_Master
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    If they add race changes with no rebalancing, all you will see in Cyrodiil is Imperials.
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    Danikat wrote: »
    I would assume that at the very least you'd have to have the Imperial edition to swap to an Imperial, which will restrict it a bit.

    I also wonder how this would work for people who don't have the Explorer's/Adventure's Pack and therefore don't have the 'any race in any alliance' unlock. Will they be restricted to just the races in their alliance, or will this be like a one-time version of ARAA?
    Hoping that it will be both; as in, you are restricted based on what you own, and you must have the Imperial Edition to become Imperial, and you must have Any Race Any Alliance to swap to a race that is not of your alliance. (It would also be beneficial to ZOS to keep this restriction, as they may get some more income from sales of Imperial Upgrades and Adventurer Packs.)
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  • skarvika
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    Seems like nobody ever plays argonians, orcs or redguards. :sweat:
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  • Greywolf_McGrowler
    i play argonian. and big deal who cares about race changes anyway? If people want to change their race then great for them. It really doesn't matter
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  • skarvika
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    i play argonian. and big deal who cares about race changes anyway? If people want to change their race then great for them. It really doesn't matter
    Takin' one for the team. Heard a guy ranting on ts about how useless the passives are, must be kind of tough. Maybe I should make an alt and give it a spin. But yeah I agree, doesn't matter to me if someone wants to change their race. More freedom, more fun.
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  • bellanca6561n
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    Seriously, does everyone choose their race based on its passives?

    It's a rhetorical question I know but ESO has the most robust community of players embracing the final three letters of MMORPG since the heyday of Lord of the Rings Online, and fewer embracing the first two letters than any online game in history.
  • Vaerth
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    Actually promote ZOS to balance the racials... because lets be honest the fact that everyone is either an imperial or 2 other races in Cyrodill kind of says a lot.

    " I play my Race Idc about racials"

    Yeahhh Yeah good for you, but it's pretty common knowledge the majority are now running imperial.

    I am a Magicka build now, so I would like to race change to a Breton lol.

    +1 for race changing OR allowing us to pick our own passives.
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    Seriously, does everyone choose their race based on its passives?

    It's a rhetorical question I know but ESO has the most robust community of players embracing the final three letters of MMORPG since the heyday of Lord of the Rings Online, and fewer embracing the first two letters than any online game in history.

    I'm a pure MMORPG player that focuses on PvP, I'd play a log if the racials were better.
    AngryNord wrote: »
    yes, after a few months of complaining that the game is Elder Imperials Online they probably will do something.


    hopefully they will do something... the fact that imperials are also good for magicka builds is silly.

    Are you refering to PvP or PvE?

    If PvP:
    How do you build a Magicka DPS as imperial?

    If PvE:
    Forget about this post, I'm a PvE nub.
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  • bellanca6561n
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    Sublime wrote: »
    Seriously, does everyone choose their race based on its passives?

    It's a rhetorical question I know but ESO has the most robust community of players embracing the final three letters of MMORPG since the heyday of Lord of the Rings Online, and fewer embracing the first two letters than any online game in history.

    I'm a pure MMORPG player that focuses on PvP, I'd play a log if the racials were better.

    That sentence seems like an oxymoron to me. And this is a General Discussion topic, not Alliance War.

    But, seriously, what do you think RPG means?
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    Seriously, does everyone choose their race based on its passives?

    It's a rhetorical question I know but ESO has the most robust community of players embracing the final three letters of MMORPG since the heyday of Lord of the Rings Online, and fewer embracing the first two letters than any online game in history.

    I think it depends on what the character is for. At least that's how I do it.

    I have 2 characters primarily for solo PvE (and 2 more planned, maybe 3) where I use whatever I want to use. One is a khajiit templar, one argonian nightblade, one will be an imperial dragonknight and I'm thinking about a sorcerer or bosmer, maybe both, maybe two separate characters. Point is since I mainly play them solo I feel like I can do whatever I want because it won't affect anyone else.

    Then I have another templar who I haven't actually started levelling yet who I plan to use for group PvE and occasional PvP. The reason I haven't started levelling her yet is I want to make sure I give her a good group build. I'm planning to make her a healer but haven't worked out the specifics yet. That one I'm more willing to make sacrifices for making sure she has a good build because I want to feel I'm actually contributing to my group. Even then I'm not planning to do speed runs or top the leader boards or anything like that.
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  • Aeeeek
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    Contribute to group, that's fine I guess. But there's also the longterm Elder Scrolls players who were playing every earlier edition solo and would like the Option of continuing solo. It doesn't have to be easy, just possible.
    Edited by Aeeeek on April 16, 2015 12:44PM
  • bellanca6561n
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    Danikat wrote: »
    Seriously, does everyone choose their race based on its passives?

    It's a rhetorical question I know but ESO has the most robust community of players embracing the final three letters of MMORPG since the heyday of Lord of the Rings Online, and fewer embracing the first two letters than any online game in history.

    I think it depends on what the character is for. At least that's how I do it.

    I have 2 characters primarily for solo PvE (and 2 more planned, maybe 3) where I use whatever I want to use. One is a khajiit templar, one argonian nightblade, one will be an imperial dragonknight and I'm thinking about a sorcerer or bosmer, maybe both, maybe two separate characters. Point is since I mainly play them solo I feel like I can do whatever I want because it won't affect anyone else.

    Then I have another templar who I haven't actually started levelling yet who I plan to use for group PvE and occasional PvP. The reason I haven't started levelling her yet is I want to make sure I give her a good group build. I'm planning to make her a healer but haven't worked out the specifics yet. That one I'm more willing to make sacrifices for making sure she has a good build because I want to feel I'm actually contributing to my group. Even then I'm not planning to do speed runs or top the leader boards or anything like that.

    Makes sense and I chose a Breton as my first character during early access because he's a Templar. This fitted his role - healer - and my other aim: being able to create a Breton that looked like me, complete with lined face and gray hair.

    He was 5 heavy, 2 light, magicka build, Cyrodiil focused because I couldn't understand what all these damned quests with long winded NPCs were doing in an online game ;)

    Oh gawd, how my views on this game have changed.

    I moved onto Dunmeri gals and PvE. I admire good roleplayers but I'm not good at it. Or, as my father used to say in his thick Brooklyn accent, "Son....yura baad actah!" But I could more easily play an annoyed woman with a rod shoved up her backside, and that means either a Dunmer or an Altmer.

    For PvE a Dunmer is also good for fools too stupid to get out of the fire. This fit me too.

    Yes, I know passives play a role. I was simply curious how other folks saw them and I've not experienced the Imperial invasion the OP has. Doesn't mean the OP is wrong...I simply haven't seen it is all.
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    Smaxx wrote: »
    Everyone is an Imperial? This one disagrees!
    Even if it was true, which is patently isn't, I don't see a problem.
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    I actually want to change from an altmer to a khajiit. . .so whatever then.

    I have imperial but have actually had no desire to ever play them. and I think the reason not a lot of people play orcs or argonians is. . .not a lot of people want to play orcs or argonians.

    I think the reason for the faction spread and race choices actually have more to do with the race then passives.

    DC has 2 fairly unpopular races in it (no offence) and historically in TES games Bretons have been kind of the min maxer race of choice. this is evident in game as DC is the smallest faction but one with the most skilled % of players.

    AD has very popular races (two elf races and khajiit, literally the biggest fan favorite race) and this tends to pull a lot of your "noob" fantasy players ("i want to be an elf!") anyone who plays D&D core knows that, every new person wants to be an elf. . .and take that con hit -_- this is reflected in population, as AD is huge but full of potatoes (im AD btw)

    then you have EP, that has previous TES games behind it (skyrim and morrowind) along with the Viking like race that is very popular in media atm, and the exotic "dark elves" (dunmer) and the cult following of argonians (the ones that like argonians so much its what they will always play regardless) once again this is reflected in game, EP is also one of the largest factions but not completely full of potatoes. . .plus they have havoc on their side XD

    then you have imperials that can go anywhere, are an easy race to make look good, have good racial passives, and make people feel special because its "exclusive" no reason for the game not to be full of them really.
    Edited by Wing on April 16, 2015 1:00PM
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  • WhiskyBob
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    Orc have sprint
    Imperials have 12% more hp

    I dont see any imbalances.
  • jcasini222ub17_ESO
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    But I can run fast. Sometimes Ramoc doesn't even use his horse or big cat to get around. it makes me laugh when i pull up the racials. But I love the Orsimer too much to ever change.

    And you forgot about the charge attack
    Thanks @niocwy, checking on the issue you called out. As far as the charge attack, it's referring to Critical Charge, Shield Charge, and Focused Charge.

    That's taken from another thread just wanted to make sure I got it right.

    Only applies to literally charge attacks, its not like its a passive that would boost all elemental damage or anything.

    Being a unique passive is cool, being soo unique that you can easily avoid the passive boost based on builds is maybe a problem.
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    Actually promote ZOS to balance the racials... because lets be honest the fact that everyone is either an imperial or 2 other races in Cyrodill kind of says a lot.

    " I play my Race Idc about racials"

    Yeahhh Yeah good for you, but it's pretty common knowledge the majority are now running imperial.

    Seriously, you could not add to one of the many other threads related to this and has to start your own special thread on the same topic as dozens of others?
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