Nightblade Magicka Build Teleport Strike OR Lotus Fan?
Vaerth
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I am currently using Lotus Fan, and it feels pretty weak. Would be be better to just run with Teleport Strike and not morph it? I used to use Ambush before 1.6 turned it to a Stamina skill.
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Vaerth✭✭✭✭Thats what I figured, seems like it would be more useful to not morph it.Pact Bloodwraith0
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✭✭✭✭✭I put my NB into Stamina prior to 1.6 with the initial Stamina buffs that came out. After 1.6 I had to make a few changes, most of them this weekend in fact, to get the character back to being fun again to play. But my NB now only uses magic for utility skills like Cloak, Shades and Aspect of Fear since those don't scale, and I don't need to cast them that often in a battle. So, it's a different way of looking at the class than before, but it's still fun to play.
I had to go all in on Stamina though (actually it is 40 Stamina, 20 Health) to get the killing power that I had before. Also, the changes to Mark Target make this a must have on my bar now.Enjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.
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Vaerth✭✭✭✭I put my NB into Stamina prior to 1.6 with the initial Stamina buffs that came out. After 1.6 I had to make a few changes, most of them this weekend in fact, to get the character back to being fun again to play. But my NB now only uses magic for utility skills like Cloak, Shades and Aspect of Fear since those don't scale, and I don't need to cast them that often in a battle. So, it's a different way of looking at the class than before, but it's still fun to play.
I had to go all in on Stamina though (actually it is 40 Stamina, 20 Health) to get the killing power that I had before. Also, the changes to Mark Target make this a must have on my bar now.
I love using 2H on both bars so Stamina wont work for me because no class skill or 2H weapon skills have ranged, where as using Magicka allows me to use Crippling Grasp and Swallow Soul for ranged damage. So I am like a Shadow Knight build with my 5 heavy / 1 light / 1 medium. I have all armor enchanted with max magika glyphs and my rings/neck are increase max magicka enchanted with add Spell Damage.
I start with Crippling Grasp followed by Swallow Soul then Teleport Strike (unmorphed), Dark Cloak, then Concealed Weapon. On my second bar is my buffs and AoE with Mirage, Piercing Mark, Sap Essence, Mass Hysteria, Invigorating Drain.
Also, Crippling Grasp is an 8 second DoT, but it does about 2,000 more damage than wrecking blow when I had my 7 medium armor pure stamina build. On top of that if gives enemy a 40% snare and myself a 40% speed increase. Starting a 1v1 with it really gives some good damage.Pact Bloodwraith0 -
Code2501✭✭✭✭Sadly you have to you it without morph. Lotus Fan is so useless ^^
To be fair, lotus fan is 'ok' on an AOE Dot bar where you don't want the group to scatter and you can take advantage of the snare e.g. path of darkness/wall of elements/elemental ring/meteor.
It could have a spot in a skirmish PBAOE nuker bar. Hot and shield up, teleport in, drop your nukes (sap essence/pulsar/soul tether/mass hysteria) then dodge-roll/invis out.
It also unlocks all the assassin passives for an AOE bar (Executioner, Pressure Points, Hemorrhage), though this is a fairly niche use, and it really should have a wider radius to be something that you couldn't easily just do without.
Edited by Code2501 on April 14, 2015 12:20PM0 -
Vaerth✭✭✭✭Sadly you have to you it without morph. Lotus Fan is so useless ^^
To be fair, lotus fan is 'ok' on an AOE Dot bar where you don't want the group to scatter and you can take advantage of the snare e.g. path of darkness/wall of elements/elemental ring/meteor.
It could have a spot in a skirmish PBAOE nuker bar. Hot and shield up, teleport in, drop your nukes (sap essence/pulsar/soul tether/mass hysteria) then dodge-roll/invis out.
It also unlocks all the assassin passives for an AOE bar (Executioner, Pressure Points, Hemorrhage), though this is a fairly niche use, and it really should have a wider radius to be something that you couldn't easily just do without.
I just miss Ambush being Magicka, wish we had CHOICES rather than forced changes.Pact Bloodwraith2 -
Vaerth✭✭✭✭I honestly am just going to drop this skill from my bar, because Crippling Grasp has a longer range, less cost, snare, increase my speed, and does a ton of damage as a DoT.Pact Bloodwraith0
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MCMancub✭✭✭✭Are people really griping about the 1.6 changes to stamina? Am I the only one that remembers how useless stamina was when all class abilities used magicka? When this game first came out it was staff or go home.1 -
Vaerth✭✭✭✭Are people really griping about the 1.6 changes to stamina? Am I the only one that remembers how useless stamina was when all class abilities used magicka? When this game first came out it was staff or go home.
Whats wrong with having both options to scale off stamina? Why can skills scale off primary attribute? For example, I feel Strife and Sap Essence should scale off of Stamina if you choose a Stamina build, and the same for having Ambush scale off Magicka if that is the main attribute. This way we choose the armor type we can and play style without losing skills we want to use.Edited by Vaerth on April 15, 2015 3:16PMPact Bloodwraith0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Well, until 1.6 I always used Lotus Fan.
Right now, I'm using the unmorphed skill while I decide whether I want to spec for stamina (because I love my DW set up) and how that's going to affect my morph options.
I know that each ability has a morph that in the collective hive mind is considered "better". But I've often ran into players who used the "other" morph in ways that were very effective, so I don't think taking away the option from players is the best choice.
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MCMancub✭✭✭✭Are people really griping about the 1.6 changes to stamina? Am I the only one that remembers how useless stamina was when all class abilities used magicka? When this game first came out it was staff or go home.
Whats wrong with having both options to scale off stamina? Why can skills scale off primary attribute? For example, I feel Strife and Sap Essence should scale off of Stamina if you choose a Stamina build, and the same for having Ambush scale off Magicka if that is the main attribute. This way we choose the armor type we can and play style without losing skills we want to use.
There's nothing wrong with the choice. My comment was directed at those claiming it was better pre-1.6. You had no choice then either, but if you wanted to go stamina you were still locked into magicka for your class skills.Edited by MCMancub on April 15, 2015 4:35PM0 -
Vaerth✭✭✭✭Are people really griping about the 1.6 changes to stamina? Am I the only one that remembers how useless stamina was when all class abilities used magicka? When this game first came out it was staff or go home.
Whats wrong with having both options to scale off stamina? Why can skills scale off primary attribute? For example, I feel Strife and Sap Essence should scale off of Stamina if you choose a Stamina build, and the same for having Ambush scale off Magicka if that is the main attribute. This way we choose the armor type we can and play style without losing skills we want to use.
There's nothing wrong with the choice. My comment was directed at those claiming it was better pre-1.6. You had no choice then either, but if you wanted to go stamina you were still locked into magicka for your class skills.
Oh ok, yeah that makes sense. I would just like everything active skill wise to scale off of primary chosen stat. Like I mentioned, if I am a NB bow user if would be nice to be able to have Crippling Grasp and Strife work from Stamina so I can use them with my bow skills. Or perhaps I want to be a Magicka build and toss in a 2H skill with it. It aqll comes down to limiting players and forcing us to choose the most optimal skills and armor to scale of changes like 1.6 makes.Pact Bloodwraith0 -
ChefZero✭✭✭✭My tip: Don't use Teleport Strike or Lotus Fan, because Magicka-NB don't need any gabcloser. Reason?
1. I need a Siphoningskill on my Dmg-Bar for the Magickapassive, so I take Gripping Grasp. Sap Essence is useless in Singletarget, i take Entropy on second Bar for Dmg-Buff.
2. TS has long animation and is weak to lags.
3. GG has longer range than TS.
4. You are pretty fast with GG + Concealed Weapon/Shadow Cloak Combo.PC EU - DC only0
