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Ability tooltip discrepancy?
Kaghei
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First EP somehow have cheaper flaming oils (i want my spent ap back btw)
Now their skills are better (left AD Dragonknight, right EP Dragonknight)
As you can see volatile armour does physical damage for AD and magic damage for EP. WTH!!
Who knows what else is in EPs advantage, next the pact gear will be giving 10% reduction to player damage....
[Moderator Note: Edited title to more align with thread]
Now their skills are better (left AD Dragonknight, right EP Dragonknight)
As you can see volatile armour does physical damage for AD and magic damage for EP. WTH!!
Who knows what else is in EPs advantage, next the pact gear will be giving 10% reduction to player damage....
[Moderator Note: Edited title to more align with thread]
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✭✭One of the skills is level 1 the other is level 4. Are you sure that this isn't only a description difference between the skill levels?Because I can!3 -
KleanZlate✭✭✭Before we get all enraged, evil and organized to overthrow the evil emperors at ZoS, could we perhaps look into if the tooltips are indeed correct a lvl 1 and lvl 4 versions of that particular ability...3 -
Roselle✭✭✭✭I demand retribution for this unjust programming discrepancy.This one was rekt by Zenimax1 -
NukeAllTheThings✭✭✭✭✭One of the skills is level 1 the other is level 4. Are you sure that this isn't only a description difference between the skill levels?
And 1 is a VR14 and the other is a lvl 42"it's important to state that our decision to go with subscriptions is not a referendum on online game revenue models. F2P, B2P, etc. are valid, proven business models - but subscription is the one that fits ESO the best, given our commitment to freedom of gameplay, quality and long-term content delivery. Plus, players will appreciate not having to worry about being "monetized" in the middle of playing the game, which is definitely a problem that is cropping up more and more in online gaming these days." - Matt Firor0 -
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✭✭NukeAllTheThings wrote: »
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✭✭VR14 vs level 42. Rank 4 vs Rank 1. You are comparing apples to asparagus.
That's what i thought at first, but he is comparing the same skill, with the same morph. The rank of the skill should make a difference in efficiency, not in damage type.0 -
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✭✭✭Is your vr14 running more stamina than magicka? I believe the damage scale and type is based off of which is higher, though I could be wrong. So a skill that scales off of stamina is physical damage, and a skill scaled off of magicka is considered magicka damage. Perhaps this is why the two show differently?Unfortunate magicka warden main.
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✭✭✭✭✭This looks like someone with stacked magicka or spell damage vs someone with stack cost reduction.0 -
prose08b14a_ESO✭✭✭I wouldn't be surprised if ZoS gave themselves benefits for playing on a certain faction. Hell, I would if my entire department's overhead was laid off due to producers and investors pulling out of a *** product.1
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Kaghei✭✭✭
FTC reads AD as physical and EP as magic, havent tested with any other addons.What the heck, hope this is only a tooltip bug and not actually two different mechanics for the same skill??
Both are magicka spec, with more magicka than stam.DisgracefulMind wrote: »Is your vr14 running more stamina than magicka? I believe the damage scale and type is based off of which is higher, though I could be wrong. So a skill that scales off of stamina is physical damage, and a skill scaled off of magicka is considered magicka damage. Perhaps this is why the two show differently?
My vr14 was semi-gearless for the SS but i can assure you it has always been physical damage for AD no matter what gear or what spec im runningEdited by Kaghei on April 7, 2015 12:54PMAlacrity
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FTC reads AD as physical and EP as magic, havent tested with any other addons.What the heck, hope this is only a tooltip bug and not actually two different mechanics for the same skill??
Both are magicka spec, with more magicka than stam.DisgracefulMind wrote: »Is your vr14 running more stamina than magicka? I believe the damage scale and type is based off of which is higher, though I could be wrong. So a skill that scales off of stamina is physical damage, and a skill scaled off of magicka is considered magicka damage. Perhaps this is why the two show differently?
My vr14 was semi-gearless for the SS but i can assure you it has always been physical damage for AD no matter what gear or what spec im running
Let me hop on my DC DK and screenshot what it says. This is weird.Unfortunate magicka warden main.
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FTC reads AD as physical and EP as magic, havent tested with any other addons.What the heck, hope this is only a tooltip bug and not actually two different mechanics for the same skill??
Both are magicka spec, with more magicka than stam.DisgracefulMind wrote: »Is your vr14 running more stamina than magicka? I believe the damage scale and type is based off of which is higher, though I could be wrong. So a skill that scales off of stamina is physical damage, and a skill scaled off of magicka is considered magicka damage. Perhaps this is why the two show differently?
My vr14 was semi-gearless for the SS but i can assure you it has always been physical damage for AD no matter what gear or what spec im running
The skills scale off of weapon damage and spell damage, not magicka or stamina.
If you had higher weapon damage than spell damage in one of those screenshots (which is very easy to do w/ a good weapon), it may have effected the tooltip.0 -
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The skills scale off of weapon damage and spell damage, not magicka or stamina.
If you had higher weapon damage than spell damage in one of those screenshots (which is very easy to do w/ a good weapon), it may have effected the tooltip.
Both characters were spec magicka... Staffs give damage now, so if its boosts my weapon damage it does the same to my spell damage.
And i also believe the skill will scale from only magicka and spell damage seeing as it is class skill. Its one or the other for class skills, not whichever is higherEdited by Kaghei on April 7, 2015 1:08PMAlacrity
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The skills scale off of weapon damage and spell damage, not magicka or stamina.
If you had higher weapon damage than spell damage in one of those screenshots (which is very easy to do w/ a good weapon), it may have effected the tooltip.
Both characters were spec magicka... Staffs give damage now, so if its boosts my weapon damage it does the same to my spell damage.
And i also believe the skill will scale from only magicka and spell damage seeing as it is class skill. Its one or the other for class skills, not whichever is higher
Tooltips update according to the character attributes/level and there is no way that a VR14 and a lvl 42 have the same specs, no matter what it is. Compare the exact same build at the same level across factions to make it count.
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✭✭✭@Kaghei This is HILARIOUS. So, my DC DK isn't really specced at the moment, so don't mind the damage on the tooltip, but she IS magicka based, has way more magicka and spell damage than the other. My EP DK is stamina build.
DC DK is magicka damage.
EP DK is magicka damage.
So it's just AD.
Hilarious. Both DKs are vr14 too.
So this has nothing to do with stats, this is an error in the AD DK tooltips. Perhaps it has something to do with race, however, what race is your DK? I have Dunmer and Altmer.Edited by DisgracefulMind on April 7, 2015 1:20PMUnfortunate magicka warden main.
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Kaghei✭✭✭KleanZlate wrote: »
Tooltips update according to the character attributes/level and there is no way that a VR14 and a lvl 42 have the same specs, no matter what it is. Compare the exact same build at the same level across factions to make it count.
Yes damage and cost scales from either magicka/spell damage or stamina/weapon damage.
For guild + world skills the tooltip will scale from your highest. You have 4000 weapon damage and 2000 spell damage, your bats will scale from weapon damage. BUT not class skills, they are permanently one or the other, you cannot change it by changing your character's spec. Unstable flame will always scale from stamina and weapon damage, burning embers will always scale from magicka and spell damage.
Regardless of the above point there is no way/mechanic in the game that should change the TYPE of damage a skill does, it should always be the same, not magic for DC + EP then physical for AD
Edited by Kaghei on April 7, 2015 1:25PMAlacrity
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✭✭✭KleanZlate wrote: »
Tooltips update according to the character attributes/level and there is no way that a VR14 and a lvl 42 have the same specs, no matter what it is. Compare the exact same build at the same level across factions to make it count.
Yes damage and cost scales from either magicka/spell damage or stamina/weapon damage.
For guild + world skills the tooltip will scale from your highest. You have 4000 weapon damage and 2000 spell damage, your bats will scale from weapon damage. BUT not class skills, they are permanently one or the other, you cannot change it by changing your character's spec. Unstable flame will always scale from stamina and weapon damage, burning embers will always scale from magicka and spell damage.
Regardless of the above point there is no way/mechanic in the game that should change the TYPE of damage a skill does, it should always be the same, not magic for DC + EP then physical for AD
Agreed, did you report it? This is an obvious tooltip error regarding either race or alliance.Unfortunate magicka warden main.
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Kaghei✭✭✭DisgracefulMind wrote: »
Agreed, did you report it? This is an obvious tooltip error regarding either race or alliance.
Yeah its reported, but i remember reporting healing debuffs stacking in september.
Both my dks are master race dunmersAlacrity
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✭✭✭DisgracefulMind wrote: »
Agreed, did you report it? This is an obvious tooltip error regarding either race or alliance.
Yeah its reported, but i remember reporting healing debuffs stacking in september.
Both my dks are master race dunmers
Dunmer DK is perfection.
Okay, so it's not a racial tooltip bug, but definitely an AD bug. That's so sad. ):
FIX IT ZOS.Unfortunate magicka warden main.
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ZOS_GinaBrunoCommunity ManagerWe looked into this issue today, and it appears as though Rank 1 of Volatile Armor is unintentionally doing magic damage instead of physical damage (for all alliances, not just AD). We'll make sure this gets fixed in a future patch.Gina Bruno
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