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Do You Need To Zerg, Seriously???

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Do you think you are an exceptional player?
Do you run with more then a few people (24 zerg status)?
Do you think your epeen is to large for what you think is skilled gameplay?

So basically, do you think you're good because you kill people with a zerg?
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  • asneakybanana
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    You mad bro?
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  • Alomar
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    Considering this game advertises as a large scale pvp game I wouldn't call 24 people a zerg, in fact my opinion of a zerg is 25+ with a similar intention. For example 24 people is one group, never a zerg in my book. 24 people with a couple people not grouped with them following them around could be considered a zerg, but not in my opinion. When you see a 24 man group and another group coordinating at the same location that is infact a zerg. Each faction has done it, does do it, and will do it in a large-scale pvp mmo that focuses at an attempt at rvr in Cyrodiil.

    Translation for less educated: Damn dem baddies be bad for zerg'n me so I couldn't keel peeps off der horses befo dey cud du notin!
    Edited by Alomar on April 7, 2015 4:28AM
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  • coolermh
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    The problem is there is no zerg buster.... Siege is to slow for a tight group and the skill they made does no dmg. There is a need for a skill that forces people to spread out and does exponential dmg based on the number of ppl it his for example.

    Alliance war ultimate to replace Warhorn: Zerg buster bomb Ultimate(or some better name):

    10m Radius
    1 player hit with zerg buster bomb takes 500 fire damage
    2 players hit 1000
    3 players hit 2000
    4 players hit 4000
    5 players hit 8000
    6 players hit 16000
    7 players hit 32000
    etc...


    Effects if 5 or more people are hit with zerg buster bomb:
    Damage from zerg buster bomb removes all sheilds.
    Damage from zerg buster bomb reduces movement speed by 50% (other affects cannot prevent loss of moment speed).
    Damage from zerg buster bomb reduces healing by 50%.
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  • Poxheart
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    Two zerglings checking in ^^.
    Unsubbed and no longer playing, but still checking the Alliance War forum for the lulz.

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  • iseko
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    EU chillrend: you bring 5, they bring 10. You bring 24 they bring 48. Yesterday tried sieging brk. Entire *** AD pop showed up (by the looks of it at least). If you are sieging keeps: PvD, zerg or die it seems.
  • asneakybanana
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    coolermh wrote: »
    The problem is there is no zerg buster.... Siege is to slow for a tight group and the skill they made does no dmg. There is a need for a skill that forces people to spread out and does exponential dmg based on the number of ppl it his for example.

    Alliance war ultimate to replace Warhorn: Zerg buster bomb Ultimate(or some better name):

    10m Radius
    1 player hit with zerg buster bomb takes 500 fire damage
    2 players hit 1000
    3 players hit 2000
    4 players hit 4000
    5 players hit 8000
    6 players hit 16000
    7 players hit 32000
    etc...


    Effects if 5 or more people are hit with zerg buster bomb:
    Damage from zerg buster bomb removes all sheilds.
    Damage from zerg buster bomb reduces movement speed by 50% (other affects cannot prevent loss of moment speed).
    Damage from zerg buster bomb reduces healing by 50%.
    Soooooo you only want it to be the most OP skill in the game right? ;p What should be done is something similar w/ prox det. first 6 targets hit take 5k damage next 6 take 10k, 20k for 18 players hit and then 40k for 24 players hit. This would allow for organized groups that dont run a full raid to be able to heal through the damage but if they clump together too tight it would be almost certain death. Also i like the idea of the effects but should need to hit 16 or more people. If theres that many clumped together then it starts to become a problem in terms of lag but any less and players shouldnt be penalized for running tight and following crown. A solid group doesnt need more than 16 players anyway.
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  • saintmurray
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    L2 seige and use calropts. That is all.
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  • Hektlk
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    OP is a ganker who will literally outnumber you 4 to 1 as you are riding your horse.
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  • corx3
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    PvP is scary and I require 23 people to hold my hand. Sorry OP :[
  • PeggymoeXD
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    I was accused twice for zerging in the past 2 days. First time was when a ganker who will remain unnamed, but chances are, he's tried ganking you, whiny-whispered me because he was mad my group of 8 people weren't going to allow me to be ganked on the way to a keep defense. He was talking my ear off for a good 10 minutes about how I'm bad because I zerg. If you know me, you know I literally protest zerging. I absolutely hate it. A skilled player doesn't need to depend on people around them, but can take care of themselves. Of course there are times where I cannot live on my own, and I die. But being GM of a guild that likes to PvP a lot, and running a teamspeak server, I'd prefer to run around Cyrodiil with my friends, which are normally around 10 people (on a good night.) So if playing this game with my friends and not allowing them to be ganked makes me a zergling than so be it.
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  • Knootewoot
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    I zerg play in a 24 man group and sometimes solo gank. Ganking one guy in the middle of a 24 man group is fun. Yes, you probably die after the gank but sometimes you can get away.

    Edit: Anyone else has problems btw with weapon switch lately? Sometimes in a fight it just won't switch while there is little lag.

    Edited by Knootewoot on April 7, 2015 7:26AM
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  • manny254
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    Knootewoot wrote: »
    I zerg play in a 24 man group and gank. Ganking one guy in the middle of a 24 man group is fun. Yes, you probably die after the gank but sometimes you can get away.

    24 man gank group? :o
    You could like actually take objective and bomb with a group that big.
    Edited by manny254 on April 7, 2015 7:27AM
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  • Zhoyzu
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    im a MF'ing BROOD LORD

    for the past couple weeks been solo or rolling with my brohemoth
    Edited by Zhoyzu on April 7, 2015 7:28AM
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  • Zhoyzu
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    Knootewoot wrote: »
    I zerg play in a 24 man group and sometimes solo gank. Ganking one guy in the middle of a 24 man group is fun. Yes, you probably die after the gank but sometimes you can get away.

    Edit: Anyone else has problems btw with weapon switch lately? Sometimes in a fight it just won't switch while there is little lag.

    yea actually. i didnt think much of it just thought that i THOUGHT i weapon swapped and didnt. but its been happening far too frequently for user error at this point. not sure what it is.
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  • Jitterbug
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    Alomar wrote: »

    Translation for less educated: Damn dem baddies be bad for zerg'n me so I couldn't keel peeps off der horses befo dey cud du notin!
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  • Knootewoot
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    Zhoyzu wrote: »
    Knootewoot wrote: »
    I zerg play in a 24 man group and sometimes solo gank. Ganking one guy in the middle of a 24 man group is fun. Yes, you probably die after the gank but sometimes you can get away.

    Edit: Anyone else has problems btw with weapon switch lately? Sometimes in a fight it just won't switch while there is little lag.

    yea actually. i didnt think much of it just thought that i THOUGHT i weapon swapped and didnt. but its been happening far too frequently for user error at this point. not sure what it is.

    It sucks though. I think I use surprise attck, but instead I use some stamina draining wrong skill :neutral:
    manny254 wrote: »
    Knootewoot wrote: »
    I zerg play in a 24 man group and gank. Ganking one guy in the middle of a 24 man group is fun. Yes, you probably die after the gank but sometimes you can get away.

    24 man gank group? :o
    You could like actually take objective and bomb with a group that big.

    It was a bad sentence (im dutch, not English) but I ment I sometimes am in 24 man group and sometimes I solo gank (or with a few others, but not in a group)

    But a great idea.. a 24 man gank group would be fun.
    Edited by Knootewoot on April 7, 2015 8:09AM
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    "I am a nightblade. Blending the disciplines of the stealthy agent and subtle wizard, I move unseen and undetected, foil locks and traps, and teleport to safety when threatened, or strike like a viper from ambush. The College of Illusion hides me and fuddles or pacifies my opponents. The College of Mysticism detects my object, reflects and dispels enemy spells, and makes good my escape. The key to a nightblade's success is avoidance, by spell or by stealth; with these skills, all things are possible."
  • Jauriel
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    Ganking is by nature picking off players in ones or twos. Why would you need 24 men to do that?
  • Knootewoot
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    Jauriel wrote: »
    Ganking is by nature picking off players in ones or twos. Why would you need 24 men to do that?

    It happens sometimes. One time I was running to someone on a horse (the enemy was on horse, I was on Senche) as I wanted to kill him. Then suddenly I was jumped on by 24 stealhed AD who probably where planning a 50/50. But I run my Senche through them and the killed me. I was like HOLY SJ*T and it was fun.

    But yeah 24 gank squads seems overdone :) unless you want to gank another raid.
    Edited by Knootewoot on April 7, 2015 12:25PM
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    "I am a nightblade. Blending the disciplines of the stealthy agent and subtle wizard, I move unseen and undetected, foil locks and traps, and teleport to safety when threatened, or strike like a viper from ambush. The College of Illusion hides me and fuddles or pacifies my opponents. The College of Mysticism detects my object, reflects and dispels enemy spells, and makes good my escape. The key to a nightblade's success is avoidance, by spell or by stealth; with these skills, all things are possible."
  • Knootewoot
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    Wanted to edit my post but accidently did quote :'(
    Edited by Knootewoot on April 7, 2015 12:25PM
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    "I am a nightblade. Blending the disciplines of the stealthy agent and subtle wizard, I move unseen and undetected, foil locks and traps, and teleport to safety when threatened, or strike like a viper from ambush. The College of Illusion hides me and fuddles or pacifies my opponents. The College of Mysticism detects my object, reflects and dispels enemy spells, and makes good my escape. The key to a nightblade's success is avoidance, by spell or by stealth; with these skills, all things are possible."
  • AltusVenifus
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    Hektlk wrote: »
    OP is a ganker who will literally outnumber you 4 to 1 as you are riding your horse.

    I try to get 5 or 6 to 1 if at all possible...
  • Gizit
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    I cannot wait to get home from work, I have taken a couple of screen shots of the
    Non-Zerging - as they so call themsleves DC.

    my group of 4-6 and another group of 10 were outnumbered 4-1. on one resource node..

    Just want to hear what the DC say about that-
    will share if i remember.!
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  • Leovolao
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    Yees I do!!!! It's the only way to hide my complete lack of skill. :disappointed:
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  • DisgracefulMind
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    Ah, OP, I know these feels. My bf and I get chased by zergs all the time :D And then tbagged relentlessly. It's hilarious. Such skill. (:
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  • technohic
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    Hektlk wrote: »
    OP is a ganker who will literally outnumber you 4 to 1 as you are riding your horse.

    LOL Don't know about the OP, but thats usually the case. You group up to fight other large groups. If you step out and fight someone, most the time, there are at least 1 or 2 others, often more; in stealth waiting to gank you.

    I would actually like to eventually work on a solo roaming type build, but still; I play the game and do not care if it is a "zerg" group or a small group, or alone if need be. I just do what I need to do to have fun.

    LOL OP is a sorc. Couldn't lure someone away probably.

    Sorcs: "1st rule when facing a sorc, don't chase the sorc"
    Sorc: "Ball of lightning is nothing, just use a gap closer and you can run them down."
    Edited by technohic on April 7, 2015 12:53PM
  • Rune_Relic
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    This is the way it is ...
    Vet 1s enter cyodiil with no battle levelling...get owned.
    Vet1s don't like this.

    Vet1s team up to improve their chances vs v14s.
    The zerg is born.

    IF their was parity, there would be no fundamental need to group up as you would be powerful enough to defend yourself.

    The you make uber powerful versions of v14s with gated gear and massive CP.
    Guess what ?
    Edited by Rune_Relic on April 7, 2015 12:55PM
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  • cozmon3c_ESO
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    I think the OP just wants some good fights, you know some nice 1v1's to 1v3 fights. hes out in the travel lanes looking for a challenge, not to be chased down by a zerg over and over. just because you cant face the OP in a 1v1 it doesnt mean you need to call in your 24man zerg.
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  • FENGRUSH
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    Gizit wrote: »
    I cannot wait to get home from work, I have taken a couple of screen shots of the
    Non-Zerging - as they so call themsleves DC.

    my group of 4-6 and another group of 10 were outnumbered 4-1. on one resource node..

    Just want to hear what the DC say about that-
    will share if i remember.!

    Wow post those screenshots!
  • cozmon3c_ESO
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    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    Gizit wrote: »
    I cannot wait to get home from work, I have taken a couple of screen shots of the
    Non-Zerging - as they so call themsleves DC.

    my group of 4-6 and another group of 10 were outnumbered 4-1. on one resource node..

    Just want to hear what the DC say about that-
    will share if i remember.!

    Wow post those screenshots!

    this guys zerg group made me post this last night after i got off ^
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  • Sypher
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    I'd rather fight against 50+ people in a spread out Zerg than fight against 12-24 'elite' players stacked so close to each other they can smell each other's hair.

    *Sips tea*

    Edited by Sypher on April 7, 2015 2:11PM
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  • NukeAllTheThings
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    I think the OP just wants some good fights, you know some nice 1v1's to 1v3 fights. hes out in the travel lanes looking for a challenge, not to be chased down by a zerg over and over. just because you cant face the OP in a 1v1 it doesnt mean you need to call in your 24man zerg.

    If you are "out in the travel lanes" then you are putting yourself right in the middle of high traffic. Of course you are going to get "zerged". The timing of your original post leads me to believe you were upset because you were trying to pick guys off at Ales in the middle of a big EP/DC brawl with a mid sized AD group added to the mix.
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