egosumacunnus wrote: »

Few questions if you will.

Now that Magic builds are useless to a DW NB, is there any point in being a vampire? All seems very meh now i have no points in Magic.

1) sneak run passive is very good
2) regens buff
BUT as shadow cloak is permanently broken and "Oh [snip]" pots (entoloma-namira-columbine) has now 45s cd stealth based build are not very good in PvP
So if you build your survival not on stealth it's better to become WW.
As for me I use for PvP DW/2H stamina build so survival question is on rally and fear but not on stealth

Is Death Stroke a spell or not or unaffected by the change as it's an ultimate?

ulti so scales of best attr

Can you recommend item sets for PvP? Currently using Hundings and Shield of the Valiant.

I use hunding+ashen grip+shadow walker jewelry
If you can get Visious Snake you can change hunding

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Xinthisis is doing great as a magika based melee NB. Honestly, well set up Magika NB are some of the more annoying and hardest to kill NB I've seen. He has some good videos of him taking out multiple opponents and also killing single targets rather quickly.

As for stam nb, I just switched over to stam myself. I started out Hundings and ashen, but found it rather underwhelming. I've gone over the the way of Air set camp, and stacking regen.

ScruffyWhiskers wrote: »

How much of a change in play style is this? Stealth and speed does seem to be a lot less effective in letting you control the engagement.

I know everybody says that fear is a great cc but I have yet to master it i guess. On any decent player they seem to have a big enough stamina pool to just break it immediately and keep on fighting. What "frightens" me so much about relying on healing and fear is that getting out of the way of the zerg would be impossible. If they can see you, they will steam roll you. That's guaranteed to happen many times each night.

The key with Fear is #1 it goes through block. So it stops turtling. And #2 if they break free it costs them a good bit of stamina, and if you keep doing it whenever the immunity is up, they will run out of stamina to do things like block attacks or dodge roll or sprint. It's good stuff.

Destructions staff is not bad as a large magic pool boost your power and try out Shadow Dancer it's a all light dropped set with Magic bonuses and the same five piece as Night's Silence

Resipsa131 wrote: »

I'm running a Dunmer Vampire (Cloak movement boost and Regen passives) Stamina DW NB. Its so frustrating trying to put together a good bar that you don't have to switch all the time. Bar#1 is Dark Cloak, Surprise Attack, Flurry OR steel tornado , Mass Hysteria OR Reapers Mark OR Relentless Focus, Killer's Blade I use Soul Harvest as my Ulti but always switch to Swarm on my Second Bar to use Ulti.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this set up, I'm relatively new at NB?

I started with cloak too and binned it after gaining enough levels that i could sneak right up to my target without it. I suggest you do the same. It's not useful in pvp and there are better choices.

Here's the ones i use for Stamina based.

Armour is all medium, i am trying 5 Medium and 2 Heavy which may or may not be better.

Impale/Killer's blade.
I havn't decided on which, i'm leaning to Killers blade but i will miss the range badly.

Rapid strikes
Does a lot of damage very quickly and the final strike is interuptable, just decimates with a stamina build

Surprise attack
IS your first and main damage on a single target, i am killing outright in 1 shot at VR10 with normal mobs.

Accelerating Drain
Was an absurdly good heal with the Midnight Drain, and still not bad after. With stamina it is pretty meh compared to what it was. I still use it, i like it and it's vampiry and the animations are great. A case could very easily be made for Swallow Soul though.

5th slot varies.

Solo
Camoflaged Hunter
Player Werewolves/Vampires get a glow and it does extra damage to them and gives a passive bonus to crit chance. WIth it i have 40% crit chance and Rapid strikes is just lol.

Zerg
Mass Hysteria, can give me a chance to move into stealth or back to saftey with the help of 'oh ***' pots. Most of the time i don't get away and i die and i expect to.

Ultimate
Solo
Doesn't really matter, whatever you enjoy. I use Soul Tether for a safety net in case it is a tarp or Soul Harvest if not.

Zerg
Devouring Swarm, save it for when you need it, when you are surrounded it is just lol

Bow for the second bar..

But as said above it's not a great idea for Zerg's. Solo hunting though is excellent. I have over 100 kills and no deaths solo against all classes and levels. Not surprising when they start the fight with a third to half of their health gone.

Remember PvE like you expect to PvP, makes it all very smooth and relaxed when the time comes. My first kill i didn't have to think about it as i had done it hundred's of times in PvE. There are also no wrong choices, all that matters is that it's fun, which it won't be for your target.


Camouflaged Hunter in stealth if applicable
Surprise Attack from stealth
Rapid strikes down to 25% health
Spam Impale/Blade and they are dead.

Takes about 5 seconds.

Good hunting.

Put all your points in Warlord, with 3 gold Cost reductions enchants your powers will be so cheap and that's needed to counter caster shield spams

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

Put all your points in Warlord, with 3 gold Cost reductions enchants your powers will be so cheap and that's needed to counter caster shield spams

Cheap abilities are better than damage? No.

Stamina or Magicka you go for max damage, siphoning strikes for when you need it in PvE.