Keyboard movement versus thumb stick movement, which is better?

Carol · March 2015

I've seen several of Deltia's videos where he uses keyboard movement extremely well and can't help wondering if it is actually better? At the moment I use a Logitech G13 with thumbstick, but I need a major redo of my keybinds to make things work better as the way I have things now feels clumsy. So I thought I'd ask for opinions:

Which is better for movement while in combat: Thumbstick on G13 (similar to naga or controller) or default keyboard keys ?

Thanks

p.s. any other keybinding advice would be great.

Rosveen · March 2015

I don't know which is better, but keyboard certainly is good enough, seeing as almost everyone uses it. Why don't you try both and choose whatever you feel more comfortable with?

fromtesonlineb16_ESO · March 2015

Carol wrote: »

Which is better for movement while in combat:

Whichever works better for you?

At the end of the day it depends on whether your chosen method is VIABLE and doesn't handicap you, or in group content, your group. If the method you use keeps you alive, gets you out of the 'red nasty' before you take damage and can make you face a particular direction when using direction-oriented skills then that's the 'best' for you.

Cinna · March 2015

I am a keen user of Logitech g13 but never found the thumbstick that great. For me the stick is bound to f1 - f4 which I use to choose potions (addon). Movement keys I have in the middle of the pad in the style of ASDZ of normal keyboard. thumb buttons are dodge and jump. Love it.

Rune_Relic · March 2015

Funny enough I mapped sneak to middle button, weapon swap to scroll-right, dodge-roll to scroll-left.
Helped me a great deal reaction wise...once you get used to it.

Greatest problem I have is with movement keys+ ability keys at the same time with the left hand.
I have the keyboard stuck on my lap at the moment and its amazing how easy it is to miskey lol.
[so need a desk back]

Anyway it become so much of a problem I reinvented the whole combat skill system so you dont have to do finger gymnastics.
After 2.0 though...I think ZOS would go on strike if I mentioned it
:d

Actually had a dream of using two mice at the same time the other night

Need to get out more.

Cuyler · March 2015

I use a controller and it works great for me (not to mention much more comfortable). Double tapping the joystick for dodging is shotty, but I think that goes for the keyboard as well. I ended up just binding a key for dodge instead.

MorHawk · March 2015

Thanks for opening up an old wound. Thumbstick would be perfect for me, but thrice-accursed Logitech have still yet to attempt to produce a left-handed version for these many long years. DAMN YOU SIR!
*shakes fist*

Cuyler · March 2015

MorHawk wrote: »

Thanks for opening up an old wound. Thumbstick would be perfect for me, but thrice-accursed Logitech have still yet to attempt to produce a left-handed version for these many long years. DAMN YOU SIR!
*shakes fist*

Hmm, I'm on Mac using "xpadder" software and a xbox controller. I can map any keyboard key to any function on the controller. I'm assuming you could map the w,a,s,d keys to the right joystick no problem. The only difference being that your digital up,down,left,right keys on the controller would need to actually function as your x,y,a.b buttons and vice versa (if that makes sense). I can see how this is unfavorable but all in all still possible :

MorHawk · March 2015

Cuyler wrote: »

MorHawk wrote: »

Thanks for opening up an old wound. Thumbstick would be perfect for me, but thrice-accursed Logitech have still yet to attempt to produce a left-handed version for these many long years. DAMN YOU SIR!
*shakes fist*

Hmm, I'm on Mac using "xpadder" software and a xbox controller. I can map any keyboard key to any function on the controller. I'm assuming you could map the w,a,s,d keys to the right joystick no problem. The only difference being that your digital up,down,left,right keys on the controller would need to actually function as your x,y,a.b buttons and vice versa (if that makes sense). I can see how this is unfavorable but all in all still possible :

It...doesn't matter what you map. The thumbstick is on the right of the device. Us lefties use our main hand for the mouse, so we need a gamepad with the stick on the *left*. Find me one of those, and I will genuinely, in all sincerity, send you money.

Nestor · March 2015

I find my thumbs cramp when using a controller. I also get better movement from a keyboard than a mouse.

SmalltalkJava · March 2015

I used a nostromo n54 when I played daoc. I should get it out for eso.

SublimedNine · April 2015

MorHawk wrote: »

Cuyler wrote: »

MorHawk wrote: »

Thanks for opening up an old wound. Thumbstick would be perfect for me, but thrice-accursed Logitech have still yet to attempt to produce a left-handed version for these many long years. DAMN YOU SIR!
*shakes fist*

Hmm, I'm on Mac using "xpadder" software and a xbox controller. I can map any keyboard key to any function on the controller. I'm assuming you could map the w,a,s,d keys to the right joystick no problem. The only difference being that your digital up,down,left,right keys on the controller would need to actually function as your x,y,a.b buttons and vice versa (if that makes sense). I can see how this is unfavorable but all in all still possible :

It...doesn't matter what you map. The thumbstick is on the right of the device. Us lefties use our main hand for the mouse, so we need a gamepad with the stick on the *left*. Find me one of those, and I will genuinely, in all sincerity, send you money.

An Xbox controller has both left & right thumbsticks so should be OK for left-handed users & as said above the D-pad on the left could be used instead of the x,y,a,b buttons.
This is not as good as a dedicated left-handed controller I agree but it would be possible to do.

I'm using an Xbox controller & Xpadder on PC & finding it much easier for movement/combat but I'm still using mouse/keyboard in the menus.

Rune_Relic · April 2015

MorHawk wrote: »

Cuyler wrote: »

MorHawk wrote: »

Thanks for opening up an old wound. Thumbstick would be perfect for me, but thrice-accursed Logitech have still yet to attempt to produce a left-handed version for these many long years. DAMN YOU SIR!
*shakes fist*

Hmm, I'm on Mac using "xpadder" software and a xbox controller. I can map any keyboard key to any function on the controller. I'm assuming you could map the w,a,s,d keys to the right joystick no problem. The only difference being that your digital up,down,left,right keys on the controller would need to actually function as your x,y,a.b buttons and vice versa (if that makes sense). I can see how this is unfavorable but all in all still possible :

It...doesn't matter what you map. The thumbstick is on the right of the device. Us lefties use our main hand for the mouse, so we need a gamepad with the stick on the *left*. Find me one of those, and I will genuinely, in all sincerity, send you money.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=left+handed+xbox+controller&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-GB:IE-SearchBox&ie=&oe=&gfe_rd=cr&ei=yYUeVYusGIqGOqDggYgG&gws_rd=ssl

MorHawk · April 2015

SublimedNine wrote: »

MorHawk wrote: »

Cuyler wrote: »

MorHawk wrote: »

Thanks for opening up an old wound. Thumbstick would be perfect for me, but thrice-accursed Logitech have still yet to attempt to produce a left-handed version for these many long years. DAMN YOU SIR!
*shakes fist*

Hmm, I'm on Mac using "xpadder" software and a xbox controller. I can map any keyboard key to any function on the controller. I'm assuming you could map the w,a,s,d keys to the right joystick no problem. The only difference being that your digital up,down,left,right keys on the controller would need to actually function as your x,y,a.b buttons and vice versa (if that makes sense). I can see how this is unfavorable but all in all still possible :

It...doesn't matter what you map. The thumbstick is on the right of the device. Us lefties use our main hand for the mouse, so we need a gamepad with the stick on the *left*. Find me one of those, and I will genuinely, in all sincerity, send you money.

An Xbox controller has both left & right thumbsticks so should be OK for left-handed users & as said above the D-pad on the left could be used instead of the x,y,a,b buttons.
This is not as good as a dedicated left-handed controller I agree but it would be possible to do.

I'm using an Xbox controller & Xpadder on PC & finding it much easier for movement/combat but I'm still using mouse/keyboard in the menus.

Rune_Relic wrote: »

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=left+handed+xbox+controller&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-GB:IE-SearchBox&ie=&oe=&gfe_rd=cr&ei=yYUeVYusGIqGOqDggYgG&gws_rd=ssl

Thanks guys, but a controller would prevent me from using the mouse. I did try that, but limited buttons and the comparative lack of accuracy when aiming kinda shut it down.
Guess I kind of asked for that using the word "gamepad". What I need is something like the logitech g13, with the thumbstick on the left. Thanks again though!