Gold pledges bugging if your group dies

Sensesfail13 · March 2015

Has anybody else had trouble with bugging on gold pledges, I have yet again hit the paper for elden hollow gold pledge and it gave me a silver reward... when the healers and fear spamming mobs were up during the bogdan fight. I have also had this bug out in wayrest vet and various other dungeons. I am curious if anything has been posted about these problems or not???

Valymer · March 2015

Yes it just happened to us, this is the second time for me on Elden Hollow final boss. Now that you mention it I think it happened to me before in Wayrest, but we thought maybe we just didn't kill enough zombies after the wipe but I bet it was just bugged. Pretty frustrating.

baratron · March 2015

Valymer wrote: »

Now that you mention it I think it happened to me before in Wayrest, but we thought maybe we just didn't kill enough zombies after the wipe but I bet it was just bugged. Pretty frustrating.

This happened to us a week or so ago. My group wiped, we waited quite a long time for the zombies to reset, but still only got the Silver Key. All of the zombies in the cave reset but none of the ones in the main room.

The problem with Veteran Wayrest Sewers is that it's very difficult to know if you got enough zombies - by the time you're at more than 10 zombies, the group looks the same size ("big") unless you specifically count them. The fact that the zombies in the main room didn't reset might have been a bug - I've definitely seen them reset before, and we did wait at least 5 minutes, probably closer to 8 or 9.

ZOS_The_Adoring_Fan · March 2015

Thanks for bringing up these issues. We are looking into both of them now.

For Elden Hollow, did your group reread the scroll after the wipe? Since we don't want to run into a circumstance where one use of the scroll makes the final boss unbeatable for some groups, it resets between attempts.

Shogunami · April 2015

Just happened to me to, we did Elden Hollow gold pledge and killed Bogdan after reading the opus of madness or whatever it's called. Everyone in group got a silver key

This was my first pledge and the reward the silver key gave me was like any other generic blue loot. I hope pledges wont continue to feel like a waste of time.

Dagoth_Rac · April 2015

I have had instances where some members of the group get a gold key and some get silver. Does the Opus of Torment have an AoE? Like if you are still standing on the steps, changing your skill bar, you were out of range when someone else read the Opus?

Dagoth_Rac · April 2015

shogunamieb17_ESO wrote: »

Just happened to me to, we did Elden Hollow gold pledge and killed Bogdan after reading the opus of madness or whatever it's called. Everyone in group got a silver key

This was my first pledge and the reward the silver key gave me was like any other generic blue loot. I hope pledges wont continue to feel like a waste of time.

The silver key loot is very weak. I have yet to meet a single person wearing those Unweaver/Infiltrator/Bastion sets. The only good loot is the monster shoulder armor that occasionally drops from the gold key chests.

Valymer · April 2015

The_Adoring_Fan wrote: »

Thanks for bringing up these issues. We are looking into both of them now.

For Elden Hollow, did your group reread the scroll after the wipe? Since we don't want to run into a circumstance where one use of the scroll makes the final boss unbeatable for some groups, it resets between attempts.

Yes, we always re-read the book, as evidenced by white adds healing Bogdan during the fight. It has happened to me multiple times.

ZOS_The_Adoring_Fan · April 2015

Valymer wrote: »

Yes, we always re-read the book, as evidenced by white adds healing Bogdan during the fight. It has happened to me multiple times.

Alright, thanks for the additional information. We dug into Bogdan's Opus of Torment, and the zombies in Wayrest Sewers, and have a solution coming with Monday's incremental build for both issues.

In the meantime, make sure that you are fully within Bogdan's island when hitting him and not on the stairs where his leash zone begins. We were only able to reproduce this issue when Bogdan was actively leashing and beginning combat within the span of a few milliseconds due to an initial ranged pull from his leash zone. If you are in a group where someone hits Bogdan from range while standing on the stairs, you can leash him and reset the opus by having the entire group move to the stairs.

Valymer · April 2015

The_Adoring_Fan wrote: »

Valymer wrote: »

Yes, we always re-read the book, as evidenced by white adds healing Bogdan during the fight. It has happened to me multiple times.

Alright, thanks for the additional information. We dug into Bogdan's Opus of Torment, and the zombies in Wayrest Sewers, and have a solution coming with Monday's incremental build for both issues.

In the meantime, make sure that you are fully within Bogdan's island when hitting him and not on the stairs where his leash zone begins. We were only able to reproduce this issue when Bogdan was actively leashing and beginning combat within the span of a few milliseconds due to an initial ranged pull from his leash zone. If you are in a group where someone hits Bogdan from range while standing on the stairs, you can leash him and reset the opus by having the entire group move to the stairs.

Awesome, much appreciated.

MissBizz · April 2015

@The_Adoring_Fan I'm not sure if you are already aware, but along with getting a silver key in Wayrest earlier this week (probably attached to whatever Zombie bug you are referring to) but we also had issues of the bosses staying when the bats spawned. The bosses were doing damage to us at the time, and were taking damage. It was just a bit rough, usually the bats are our "gather ourselves and regen" time.

[EDIT] If it would help, I was streaming at the time so I do have the dungeon recorded. let me know if you want me to send a clip of the fight over

Artemiisia · April 2015

they just forgetting to read the scroll again after wipes, we did that a couple of months ago and got silver, learned it the hard way

Valymer · April 2015

Artemiisia wrote: »

they just forgetting to read the scroll again after wipes, we did that a couple of months ago and got silver, learned it the hard way

Reading comprehension fail.

Sensesfail13 · April 2015

No, I did not forget to read the opus again, I found that the entire group has to be in bogdans leash zone if you read it while someone is running up the stairs it will bug.

ZOS_The_Adoring_Fan · April 2015

@MizzBizz Videos are always helpful so that we can get issues reproduced internally as fast as possible. The dungeon team tends to watch a lot of twitch streams during (and after) hours, especially when a new dungeon is on PTS. We can only anticipate player actions to a certain degree, so seeing you all interact with our dungeons firsthand is great.

Valymer · April 2015

You may have already done this, but if nothing else the flag or whatever gets thrown up for each player when you read the book should be "zonewide" (by zone I mean the entire area after you step through the last portal). And, once you read the book he should stay stuck on hardmode until the group wipes, and only then reset. That should do it

FooWasHere · April 2015

Post 1.6 I've had Wayrest gold fail without any wipe twice. Our usual tactics has been to pull the group of zombies in the cul-de-sac to the right after the boss fight has started, and ignoring the zombies on the to the knoll to the left. This used to work 10/10 but failed us twice in a row since 1.6, with no wipes to complicate things either.
What we now do is a staggered pull of both zombie groups, and that has worked. There might be that there are now fewer zombies in the right group now, because we haven't (re-)counted them, but it feels like a glitch.

@MissBizz, the bosses being up in the bat phase I've experienced occasionally before 1.6 too (not that it makes a difference though, still a glitch I assume).