hamon wrote: »

krim wrote: »

morf87 wrote: »

Im not denying you kicked some serious ass or that you dont know your stuff but i find it pretty sad playsytle, bolting at the first sign of danger, shield spamming, addons telling you when to do actions and animation canceling like a madman(which i despise even tho and sadly its a valid bug i mean mechanic), this gameplay seems to lack any sort of challenge other then having to hit keys at a fast rate.
No hate intended just my opinion. I also remember you killing my poor NB in a mere instant the other day, hopefully i meet you out in cyrodiil again and likely get my ass kicked but mayb i will learn something fighting one of the toughest sorcs out there.

Morf, noob Nb of the Daggerfall Covenant.

Animation canceling is something that everyone can use and benefit from.. Theres no reason to despise it when you can be doing it and its one of the most simplest mechanics to learn and figure out. This has been apart of almost every mmo i have played. I never understood how people can be mad about things they could be taking advantage of also. Am i wrong?

which MMO's were they exactly? i played every AAA MMO since SWG and dont remember animation cancelling being a thing.. most had ability cooldowns which negates being able to spam anything much. it was usually about rotations rather than spamming light/heavy attacks between one or 2 skills..

What people are doing is called weaving their attacks. Animation canceling does not actually benefit you as you think. You are not firing off skills faster then anyone else by weaving. People who weave their attacks are simply using the game mechanics correctly. All you are doing is putting a basic weapon attack and skill together. There is timing involved and if you are to quick you will notice the game stops you. And in WoW its the same thing as queuing another skill before the first one finished casting(there was an addon for that). Or a frostbolt icelance shatter combo.

Light/heavy attack weaving is part of the rotation in this game. Again you are not getting skills off faster then anyone else by doing this. But if you are not you are missing out on the pause after you cast a skill where you could be using a basic attack.

Teargrants wrote: »

cmycko wrote: »

....but you run a regen build with heavy armor. That leaves me to think you were one of the few that abused the CP system on PTS and you have several hunded CPs to use on live. I could be very wrong, but if I'm right, then you have a distinct advantage against your enemy.

I am a sorcerer as well since early beta and i drop 20k damage instantly with 5 attacks almost hitting simultaneously. If you dont block, its gonna hurt. This takes time to charge up, but when I see the reflect on your bar with heavy armor and sword and board regen, and you are hitting for 17k on a frag, Im beginning to wonder...

Nope, only have 127 CP atm.

It's just about stacking spell dmg + magicka. I use drink instead of food, but my build isn't a "regen build", I go for a balance between all 3 (regen/magicka/spell dmg). If I was just going for a regen build, I'd have around 3k regen. Also, I'm often running 5 light / 2 heavy instead of my 5 heavy / 2 light you're thinking about.

I see.

I have similiar stats but my spell damage is 700 points higher after crit surge. Your regen is 900 points higher than me, but i find that around 1300 regen is plenty. I use cheap mana v5 pots to help in intense magicka burn situations and I never really get even close to 25% magicka. I melt people with the 2500 spell power burst build I use. When I'm really in trouble, i will pop an invis + major expedition pot to gtfo for a minute. I have done this only a few times in several hours of pvp. I am finding that at least 1300 magicka regen is needed in pvp. If anyone is still running a crushing shock spam build you need to reconsider. PM me and ill show you the new thing. Higher regen is needed for the spam builds and people need to realize that pvp is about burst. And burst uses less magicka therefore needing less regen.

I have 28k magicka, 19k hp, 12k stamina, 2500 spell crit. 30k focus, 45% spell crit, 1300 magicka regen. 6 light 1 heavy (reinforced chest).

As a sorcerer, rely rely rely on hardened ward and healing ward for defense. Spell resist and armor should not be focused on at all. 1 heavy should be enough (chest). And even that can be light armor. It's just hard to ignore that 1 heavy chest piece is more armor than all other pieces combined.

As for Teargrants, he is a great player. There is no reason why any sorcerer shouldn't look up to him to be successful in pvp.

Any DC sorcs want help pst in game

Rhok the Vile

Nobody who lives more than 5 seconds pays attention to the scrolling text. The only reason I have ever left it on was to see how much I was criting specific attacks for (and I am well aware there are much better addons for that). In PvP, especially with a sub 20k health sorc build, the time it takes to read combat text and react is enough to get burst to death... twice if your opponent is decent. This is more true than ever with 1.6. I'm sure thinking that your experience with other MMO's gives you some sort of perspective on addons... but it just doesn't apply here.

McDoogs wrote: »

Teargrants wrote: »

cmycko wrote: »

....but you run a regen build with heavy armor. That leaves me to think you were one of the few that abused the CP system on PTS and you have several hunded CPs to use on live. I could be very wrong, but if I'm right, then you have a distinct advantage against your enemy.

I am a sorcerer as well since early beta and i drop 20k damage instantly with 5 attacks almost hitting simultaneously. If you dont block, its gonna hurt. This takes time to charge up, but when I see the reflect on your bar with heavy armor and sword and board regen, and you are hitting for 17k on a frag, Im beginning to wonder...

Nope, only have 127 CP atm.

It's just about stacking spell dmg + magicka. I use drink instead of food, but my build isn't a "regen build", I go for a balance between all 3 (regen/magicka/spell dmg). If I was just going for a regen build, I'd have around 3k regen. Also, I'm often running 5 light / 2 heavy instead of my 5 heavy / 2 light you're thinking about.

I just dont understand how your crystal frags hit so hard with only 1700 spell damage

technohic wrote: »

McDoogs wrote: »

Teargrants wrote: »

cmycko wrote: »

....but you run a regen build with heavy armor. That leaves me to think you were one of the few that abused the CP system on PTS and you have several hunded CPs to use on live. I could be very wrong, but if I'm right, then you have a distinct advantage against your enemy.

I am a sorcerer as well since early beta and i drop 20k damage instantly with 5 attacks almost hitting simultaneously. If you dont block, its gonna hurt. This takes time to charge up, but when I see the reflect on your bar with heavy armor and sword and board regen, and you are hitting for 17k on a frag, Im beginning to wonder...

Nope, only have 127 CP atm.

It's just about stacking spell dmg + magicka. I use drink instead of food, but my build isn't a "regen build", I go for a balance between all 3 (regen/magicka/spell dmg). If I was just going for a regen build, I'd have around 3k regen. Also, I'm often running 5 light / 2 heavy instead of my 5 heavy / 2 light you're thinking about.

I just dont understand how your crystal frags hit so hard with only 1700 spell damage. did you invest heavily in the champion skill that raises magic, poison, disease dmg?

His high magicka and focus rating might have something to do with it.

I have 2462 spell damage (~2800 with entropy) and 25k magicka and even with might of the guild my frag crits are around 15k

Nala_ wrote: »

McDoogs wrote: »

Teargrants wrote: »

cmycko wrote: »

....but you run a regen build with heavy armor. That leaves me to think you were one of the few that abused the CP system on PTS and you have several hunded CPs to use on live. I could be very wrong, but if I'm right, then you have a distinct advantage against your enemy.

I am a sorcerer as well since early beta and i drop 20k damage instantly with 5 attacks almost hitting simultaneously. If you dont block, its gonna hurt. This takes time to charge up, but when I see the reflect on your bar with heavy armor and sword and board regen, and you are hitting for 17k on a frag, Im beginning to wonder...

Nope, only have 127 CP atm.

It's just about stacking spell dmg + magicka. I use drink instead of food, but my build isn't a "regen build", I go for a balance between all 3 (regen/magicka/spell dmg). If I was just going for a regen build, I'd have around 3k regen. Also, I'm often running 5 light / 2 heavy instead of my 5 heavy / 2 light you're thinking about.

I just dont understand how your crystal frags hit so hard with only 1700 spell damage. did you invest heavily in the champion skill that raises magic, poison, disease dmg?

they dont crit hard compared to other peoples, you just havent been hit hard by any yet

heh i'm always blocking, i've not actually not seen huge numbers from frags in death recaps

NB fear will wreck me if i'm not super quick on the break free (and have the stam)

Teargrants -

Why do you slot necrotic orb (I dont remember what the "heal" version is called) as a solo roaming sorc? Nice video compilation btw.

Teargrants wrote: »

Try getting 30k magicka, you should notice the dmg increase.

You recommend dropping spell damage for max magicka then?

McDoogs wrote: »

Teargrants wrote: »

Try getting 30k magicka, you should notice the dmg increase.

You recommend dropping spell damage for max magicka then?

Within reason. I can up spell dmg to 2300 on sword/shield but get dropped to 25k mag. Or lose 300 spell dmg and get 30k mag. Dmg doesn't feel different in either, but more magicka means bigger resource pool and bigger shields.

technohic wrote: »

What sets do you use Teargrants?

4 Magnus, 4 Healers, 4 Martial Knowledge.