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  • Jauriel
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    Of course you crash, too. Packet flooding, lag exploiting, etc doesn't discriminate. It's going to crash/lag out everyone near the action. Do you think because you crash also means someone isn't intentionally doing it for the benefit of one side or another? As stated before- my entire crew of 24 crashed to desktop at Chalman TWICE on 4/1 around 7-8 pm. Both times in the exact same strategic moment my team descended on the flags.

    We moved campaigns. Same map, new players, same keep, close to same numbers and no lag/no hard crashing.

    I'm not asking you to argue with me. I'm going to ask you to stop expecting me to not come here and be honest about my game experience, though.
  • Earendal
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    Well, so long as you continuously talk a bunch of trash about my guild that isn't true, consider yourself asking for an argument. These are people that I play with every day. People who put a lot of time into being as good as possible. Excuse me for taking offense at your trying to diminish our accomplishments.

    Just because you repeat it to yourself and others doesn't make it real. We're experiencing the same things you are, usually with far fewer people. The fact that you think this somehow makes us responsible is delusional.

    We're accused of everything from intentionally lagging the server to using third-party programs that somehow cause ourselves and others to disconnect. I feel like I'm living in crazy town.
    Earendal - AD Templar
    Earendal Ebonheart - EP Templar
    Earendal Spellstorm - EP Sorcerer

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  • emma666
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    Earendal wrote: »
    Well, so long as you continuously talk a bunch of trash about my guild that isn't true, consider yourself asking for an argument. These are people that I play with every day. People who put a lot of time into being as good as possible. Excuse me for taking offense at your trying to diminish our accomplishments.

    Just because you repeat it to yourself and others doesn't make it real. We're experiencing the same things you are, usually with far fewer people. The fact that you think this somehow makes us responsible is delusional.

    We're accused of everything from intentionally lagging the server to using third-party programs that somehow cause ourselves and others to disconnect. I feel like I'm living in crazy town.

    There is no point in arguing with these delusional people Earandal. They want to believe that we use hacks and lagsploits to win as an excuse for them losing, so be it. We know that we dont, so we can just take it as a compliment and keep on rockin' <3
    Nymeria - Ebonheart - Grand Overlady - Imperial Templar - Havoc

    I wish you good fortune in the wars to come.
  • RedTalon
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    Sums up this thread and campaign
    Edited by RedTalon on April 3, 2015 11:04PM
  • akredon_ESO
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    I'm so sad to see DC go, you guys will be missed :cry:
  • Phinix1
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    Oh, forget it.
    Edited by Phinix1 on April 4, 2015 12:17AM
  • PCheuk38b14_ESO
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    Earendal wrote: »
    Well, so long as you continuously talk a bunch of trash about my guild that isn't true, consider yourself asking for an argument. These are people that I play with every day. People who put a lot of time into being as good as possible. Excuse me for taking offense at your trying to diminish our accomplishments.

    Just because you repeat it to yourself and others doesn't make it real. We're experiencing the same things you are, usually with far fewer people. The fact that you think this somehow makes us responsible is delusional.

    We're accused of everything from intentionally lagging the server to using third-party programs that somehow cause ourselves and others to disconnect. I feel like I'm living in crazy town.

    Then stop intentionally lagging the servers out to a point where people crash. Pretty simple.
  • xDOVAHKIINx
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    Earendal wrote: »
    Well, so long as you continuously talk a bunch of trash about my guild that isn't true, consider yourself asking for an argument. These are people that I play with every day. People who put a lot of time into being as good as possible. Excuse me for taking offense at your trying to diminish our accomplishments.

    Just because you repeat it to yourself and others doesn't make it real. We're experiencing the same things you are, usually with far fewer people. The fact that you think this somehow makes us responsible is delusional.

    We're accused of everything from intentionally lagging the server to using third-party programs that somehow cause ourselves and others to disconnect. I feel like I'm living in crazy town.

    Then stop intentionally lagging the servers out to a point where people crash. Pretty simple.

    Your are pretty ignorant.
    "According to most of the people on these forums, every organized 16 man guild group is a lagblobbing pulsespamming zerg."-Fmonk
  • PCheuk38b14_ESO
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    Earendal wrote: »
    Well, so long as you continuously talk a bunch of trash about my guild that isn't true, consider yourself asking for an argument. These are people that I play with every day. People who put a lot of time into being as good as possible. Excuse me for taking offense at your trying to diminish our accomplishments.

    Just because you repeat it to yourself and others doesn't make it real. We're experiencing the same things you are, usually with far fewer people. The fact that you think this somehow makes us responsible is delusional.

    We're accused of everything from intentionally lagging the server to using third-party programs that somehow cause ourselves and others to disconnect. I feel like I'm living in crazy town.

    Then stop intentionally lagging the servers out to a point where people crash. Pretty simple.

    Your are pretty ignorant.

    And you aren't? lol.
  • xDOVAHKIINx
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    So I guess that's it then, EP not only won every campaign on the main server. But made you all run away to other servers, true victory was given to EP today. Good job AD way too look weaker than ever, after all the trash you talked, about how much better AD are. And how much better AD guilds are compared to EP. I am ashamed to be AD
    "According to most of the people on these forums, every organized 16 man guild group is a lagblobbing pulsespamming zerg."-Fmonk
  • Sypher
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    I created an EP alt and already spent a few skill points into the Lagsploit skill line.

    Can't wait to get to v14 and lag the servers with my new powers.
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  • xDOVAHKIINx
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    emma666 wrote: »
    Earendal wrote: »
    Well, so long as you continuously talk a bunch of trash about my guild that isn't true, consider yourself asking for an argument. These are people that I play with every day. People who put a lot of time into being as good as possible. Excuse me for taking offense at your trying to diminish our accomplishments.

    Just because you repeat it to yourself and others doesn't make it real. We're experiencing the same things you are, usually with far fewer people. The fact that you think this somehow makes us responsible is delusional.

    We're accused of everything from intentionally lagging the server to using third-party programs that somehow cause ourselves and others to disconnect. I feel like I'm living in crazy town.

    There is no point in arguing with these delusional people Earandal. They want to believe that we use hacks and lagsploits to win as an excuse for them losing, so be it. We know that we dont, so we can just take it as a compliment and keep on rockin' <3

    The only excuse I can give up to justify my factions continual lose, is we lost our elite guild to EP. And destroyed any organization AD had. Sabotaged by them or not we are weak at the moment. Maybe one day we will regain our strength but as it looks now we will run away.
    "According to most of the people on these forums, every organized 16 man guild group is a lagblobbing pulsespamming zerg."-Fmonk
  • xDOVAHKIINx
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    Earendal wrote: »
    Well, so long as you continuously talk a bunch of trash about my guild that isn't true, consider yourself asking for an argument. These are people that I play with every day. People who put a lot of time into being as good as possible. Excuse me for taking offense at your trying to diminish our accomplishments.

    Just because you repeat it to yourself and others doesn't make it real. We're experiencing the same things you are, usually with far fewer people. The fact that you think this somehow makes us responsible is delusional.

    We're accused of everything from intentionally lagging the server to using third-party programs that somehow cause ourselves and others to disconnect. I feel like I'm living in crazy town.

    Then stop intentionally lagging the servers out to a point where people crash. Pretty simple.

    Your are pretty ignorant.

    And you aren't? lol.

    Well I'm not shallow enough to blame other people for my losses. And even further, blaming their victories purely on lag. Who truly is ignorant enough to believe a 16 man group can lag an entire server.
    "According to most of the people on these forums, every organized 16 man guild group is a lagblobbing pulsespamming zerg."-Fmonk
  • Karnus
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    Sile wrote: »
    I've not been around for the last two days, so I wasn't there, but last campaign I don't think DC lost a scroll without the nullified damage.

    It did happen to EP twice, and both times there were threads from EP players QQing about no skill.

    The Campaign isn't over, but it will be when people give up. Maybe Chillrend will be the new PvP campaign in months to come.

    Doesn't help that you got a bunch of poop in the mail as reward for all your time and effort last campaign.

    Gondor come back! You can blame it all - on - me.
    Formerly Karnus, the Marauder in Warhammer.
  • Smeag
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    Slightly off-topic, but I've been pvping in Blackwater over the last week and a half (leveled from 10-34). During all this time I have experienced precisely 0 lag. 40vs40 keep seiges and open field zergs battles, no lag. Coming from thornblade (where you can't go 10 mins without hitting 999+) this was truly liberating and I don't think I will ever go back.
    Edited by Smeag on April 4, 2015 2:52AM
  • RinaldoGandolphi
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    At this point I think their are certain folks lagging things intentionally for their own benefit.

    Infact, I'd go as far as to say their are folks with multiple accounts on multiple credit cards, that are in fact used as bots to hammer the server at set times that are also characters played regularly to mask them.

    In other words these folks have their own ESO botnet that they use on command to create the lag they want. With it being b2p.it will be even easier. All the lag in this game has all the signs of a DOS, and I'd bet a months salary their are thousands of game accounts under the control of a few people that are used to lag on demand. This is script kiddie 101.

    Not only am I.network admin, I'm also in charge of security and I know what a DOS looks like when I see one, its obvious the lag in the game is started on demand and the only way they could do this is by having a lot of accounts under their control.

    I wonder how good ZOS account auditing policies are? It would probably be easy to find these accounts with correct auditing and logging.
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  • prose08b14a_ESO
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    woodsro wrote: »
    At this point I think their are certain folks lagging things intentionally for their own benefit.

    Infact, I'd go as far as to say their are folks with multiple accounts on multiple credit cards, that are in fact used as bots to hammer the server at set times that are also characters played regularly to mask them.

    In other words these folks have their own ESO botnet that they use on command to create the lag they want. With it being b2p.it will be even easier. All the lag in this game has all the signs of a DOS, and I'd bet a months salary their are thousands of game accounts under the control of a few people that are used to lag on demand. This is script kiddie 101.

    Not only am I.network admin, I'm also in charge of security and I know what a DOS looks like when I see one, its obvious the lag in the game is started on demand and the only way they could do this is by having a lot of accounts under their control.

    I wonder how good ZOS account auditing policies are? It would probably be easy to find these accounts with correct auditing and logging.

    #BrandonSouthGay
  • Cody
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    WhiskeyJac wrote: »
    Azura's is good now lot of dc action there some very good dc guilds, AD ( me ) and EP are getting asses handed to them , no lag and good fights so the experienced pvpers can come here and help AD and EP. No need to bring lag here whoever it is...

    screw it. im going the FOTM 2H. I can't stand this PvE anymore, i've already done most of it!:(

    I will be in Azura's sometime soon.
    Edited by Cody on April 4, 2015 3:47AM
  • Teargrants
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    Sypher wrote: »
    I created an EP alt and already spent a few skill points into the Lagsploit skill line.

    Can't wait to get to v14 and lag the servers with my new powers.
    You'll need a Lagsploitation guild tabard to unlock your full potential.
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  • emma666
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    emma666 wrote: »
    Earendal wrote: »
    Well, so long as you continuously talk a bunch of trash about my guild that isn't true, consider yourself asking for an argument. These are people that I play with every day. People who put a lot of time into being as good as possible. Excuse me for taking offense at your trying to diminish our accomplishments.

    Just because you repeat it to yourself and others doesn't make it real. We're experiencing the same things you are, usually with far fewer people. The fact that you think this somehow makes us responsible is delusional.

    We're accused of everything from intentionally lagging the server to using third-party programs that somehow cause ourselves and others to disconnect. I feel like I'm living in crazy town.

    There is no point in arguing with these delusional people Earandal. They want to believe that we use hacks and lagsploits to win as an excuse for them losing, so be it. We know that we dont, so we can just take it as a compliment and keep on rockin' <3

    The only excuse I can give up to justify my factions continual lose, is we lost our elite guild to EP. And destroyed any organization AD had. Sabotaged by them or not we are weak at the moment. Maybe one day we will regain our strength but as it looks now we will run away.

    You might be the only sane non-EP on these accusation threads lol. I guess its easier for these people to accuse one guild of 53 members of ''lagsploiting'', hacking and whatever else we apparently ''do'' than actually using logic. Thank you for not being simpleminded!
    Nymeria - Ebonheart - Grand Overlady - Imperial Templar - Havoc

    I wish you good fortune in the wars to come.
  • Sypher
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    emma666 wrote: »
    emma666 wrote: »
    Earendal wrote: »
    Well, so long as you continuously talk a bunch of trash about my guild that isn't true, consider yourself asking for an argument. These are people that I play with every day. People who put a lot of time into being as good as possible. Excuse me for taking offense at your trying to diminish our accomplishments.

    Just because you repeat it to yourself and others doesn't make it real. We're experiencing the same things you are, usually with far fewer people. The fact that you think this somehow makes us responsible is delusional.

    We're accused of everything from intentionally lagging the server to using third-party programs that somehow cause ourselves and others to disconnect. I feel like I'm living in crazy town.

    There is no point in arguing with these delusional people Earandal. They want to believe that we use hacks and lagsploits to win as an excuse for them losing, so be it. We know that we dont, so we can just take it as a compliment and keep on rockin' <3

    The only excuse I can give up to justify my factions continual lose, is we lost our elite guild to EP. And destroyed any organization AD had. Sabotaged by them or not we are weak at the moment. Maybe one day we will regain our strength but as it looks now we will run away.

    You might be the only sane non-EP on these accusation threads lol. I guess its easier for these people to accuse one guild of 53 members of ''lagsploiting'', hacking and whatever else we apparently ''do'' than actually using logic. Thank you for not being simpleminded!

    that's exactly what a lagsploiter would say. caught red handed.

    get it, red handed? red? EP?

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  • mrvbalc
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    Earendal wrote: »
    Well, so long as you continuously talk a bunch of trash about my guild that isn't true, consider yourself asking for an argument. These are people that I play with every day. People who put a lot of time into being as good as possible. Excuse me for taking offense at your trying to diminish our accomplishments.

    Just because you repeat it to yourself and others doesn't make it real. We're experiencing the same things you are, usually with far fewer people. The fact that you think this somehow makes us responsible is delusional.

    We're accused of everything from intentionally lagging the server to using third-party programs that somehow cause ourselves and others to disconnect. I feel like I'm living in crazy town.

    Then stop intentionally lagging the servers out to a point where people crash. Pretty simple.

    Your are pretty ignorant.

    And you aren't? lol.

    Well I'm not shallow enough to blame other people for my losses. And even further, blaming their victories purely on lag. Who truly is ignorant enough to believe a 16 man group can lag an entire server.

    Are you even pvpin in TB, i am still fighting in thorn and i know how this certain grp of ppl creating intentional lag to win, and all other ppl who are fighting in thorn also know this (Even EP also). and yet u r asking this,
    Have u ever been in TB
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  • Jauriel
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    Earendal wrote: »
    Well, so long as you continuously talk a bunch of trash about my guild that isn't true, consider yourself asking for an argument. These are people that I play with every day. People who put a lot of time into being as good as possible. Excuse me for taking offense at your trying to diminish our accomplishments.

    Just because you repeat it to yourself and others doesn't make it real. We're experiencing the same things you are, usually with far fewer people. The fact that you think this somehow makes us responsible is delusional.

    We're accused of everything from intentionally lagging the server to using third-party programs that somehow cause ourselves and others to disconnect. I feel like I'm living in crazy town.

    How in the hell would I know what guild you play in? I don't even know you.
  • AhPook_Is_Here
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    Satiar wrote: »
    Teamwork OP.

    I blame Da Sandman.

    Sandman is OP.
    “Whatever.”
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  • C0pp3rhead
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    Satiar wrote: »
    I blame Da Sandman.

    Seriously ZOS, something needs to be done. Nerf Sandman so that the other alliances have a chance.
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  • Earendal
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    woodsro wrote: »
    Infact, I'd go as far as to say their are folks with multiple accounts on multiple credit cards, that are in fact used as bots to hammer the server at set times that are also characters played regularly to mask them.

    In other words these folks have their own ESO botnet that they use on command to create the lag they want. With it being b2p.it will be even easier. All the lag in this game has all the signs of a DOS, and I'd bet a months salary their are thousands of game accounts under the control of a few people that are used to lag on demand. This is script kiddie 101.

    Not only am I.network admin, I'm also in charge of security and I know what a DOS looks like when I see one, its obvious the lag in the game is started on demand and the only way they could do this is by having a lot of accounts under their control.

    /facepalm
    Jauriel wrote: »
    How in the hell would I know what guild you play in? I don't even know you.

    It's in my signature, and there is also only one guild you're continuously trash talking. Based on what I said, and who you've been attacking, you'd think that would be relatively easy to figure out. Then again, deductive reasoning doesn't seem to be your, or many others in this threads, strong point.
    Earendal - AD Templar
    Earendal Ebonheart - EP Templar
    Earendal Spellstorm - EP Sorcerer

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  • technohic
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    I don't even care who or what causes it. I'd just assume let it go and when I see it, move on to another server. Kind of what Paul Sage suggested. I'm not running from a fight. I'm running to a fight and away from lag where I'm not really fighting at all.
  • Jauriel
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    Earendal wrote: »

    woodsro wrote: »
    Infact, I'd go as far as to say their are folks with multiple accounts on multiple credit cards, that are in fact used as bots to hammer the server at set times that are also characters played regularly to mask them.

    In other words these folks have their own ESO botnet that they use on command to create the lag they want. With it being b2p.it will be even easier. All the lag in this game has all the signs of a DOS, and I'd bet a months salary their are thousands of game accounts under the control of a few people that are used to lag on demand. This is script kiddie 101.

    Not only am I.network admin, I'm also in charge of security and I know what a DOS looks like when I see one, its obvious the lag in the game is started on demand and the only way they could do this is by having a lot of accounts under their control.

    /facepalm
    Jauriel wrote: »
    How in the hell would I know what guild you play in? I don't even know you.

    It's in my signature, and there is also only one guild you're continuously trash talking. Based on what I said, and who you've been attacking, you'd think that would be relatively easy to figure out. Then again, deductive reasoning doesn't seem to be your, or many others in this threads, strong point.

    I don't see your sig. But I do think you protest way way way too much. Your defensiveness is glaring.
  • Kupoking
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    Sypher wrote: »
    emma666 wrote: »
    emma666 wrote: »
    Earendal wrote: »
    Well, so long as you continuously talk a bunch of trash about my guild that isn't true, consider yourself asking for an argument. These are people that I play with every day. People who put a lot of time into being as good as possible. Excuse me for taking offense at your trying to diminish our accomplishments.

    Just because you repeat it to yourself and others doesn't make it real. We're experiencing the same things you are, usually with far fewer people. The fact that you think this somehow makes us responsible is delusional.

    We're accused of everything from intentionally lagging the server to using third-party programs that somehow cause ourselves and others to disconnect. I feel like I'm living in crazy town.

    There is no point in arguing with these delusional people Earandal. They want to believe that we use hacks and lagsploits to win as an excuse for them losing, so be it. We know that we dont, so we can just take it as a compliment and keep on rockin' <3

    The only excuse I can give up to justify my factions continual lose, is we lost our elite guild to EP. And destroyed any organization AD had. Sabotaged by them or not we are weak at the moment. Maybe one day we will regain our strength but as it looks now we will run away.

    You might be the only sane non-EP on these accusation threads lol. I guess its easier for these people to accuse one guild of 53 members of ''lagsploiting'', hacking and whatever else we apparently ''do'' than actually using logic. Thank you for not being simpleminded!

    that's exactly what a lagsploiter would say. caught red handed.

    get it, red handed? red? EP?

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    Speaking of that Sypher, can you tell us where you got all this AP on thornblade?

    Nobody in AD seems to see you around.
  • Pchela
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    Sypher wrote: »
    emma666 wrote: »
    emma666 wrote: »
    Earendal wrote: »
    Well, so long as you continuously talk a bunch of trash about my guild that isn't true, consider yourself asking for an argument. These are people that I play with every day. People who put a lot of time into being as good as possible. Excuse me for taking offense at your trying to diminish our accomplishments.

    Just because you repeat it to yourself and others doesn't make it real. We're experiencing the same things you are, usually with far fewer people. The fact that you think this somehow makes us responsible is delusional.

    We're accused of everything from intentionally lagging the server to using third-party programs that somehow cause ourselves and others to disconnect. I feel like I'm living in crazy town.

    There is no point in arguing with these delusional people Earandal. They want to believe that we use hacks and lagsploits to win as an excuse for them losing, so be it. We know that we dont, so we can just take it as a compliment and keep on rockin' <3

    The only excuse I can give up to justify my factions continual lose, is we lost our elite guild to EP. And destroyed any organization AD had. Sabotaged by them or not we are weak at the moment. Maybe one day we will regain our strength but as it looks now we will run away.

    You might be the only sane non-EP on these accusation threads lol. I guess its easier for these people to accuse one guild of 53 members of ''lagsploiting'', hacking and whatever else we apparently ''do'' than actually using logic. Thank you for not being simpleminded!

    that's exactly what a lagsploiter would say. caught red handed.

    get it, red handed? red? EP?

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    Speaking of that Sypher, can you tell us where you got all this AP on thornblade?

    Nobody in AD seems to see you around.

    No one ever sees a stealthy nightblade ;)

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