Pulled back in the house after I could manage to flee

Moonshadow66 · April 2015

Yesterday I was doing my usual stealthing route in Rawl'kha. In the Inn I got caught, which wouldn't be that bad; usually I either wait for the small bounty to disappear or I just sneak out, no big deal, right?
Well, but this time I got attacked by one of the two NPCs in the upper floor (in the back room). I didn't fight back, and even if I would want to, I couldn't since I have the "prevent innocents" option enabled, but I tried to flee out of the door downstairs.
After a few attempts to grab the door knob, I even could make it to the outside, but in the next moment, I suddenly was pulled back to the inside, so I let her just kill my character.

I mean, when I'm actually OUT already, shouldn't I stay there?
I know that this "door issue" was discussed here quite often, but this pull-back was new to me, this shouldn't happen, I think. If I can access a door, I'm supposed to be on the other side, am I not?

If fleeing is no option in this system (in case you are INside a building), then what's the point? I don't want to fight, just steal and disappear, like every good thief would do this, I guess.

Gilvoth · April 2015

i have to admit this sounds like awesome programing.
but yes i agree with you that you did escape (atleast to outside of the building) that house so does that mean you can go free? i think not Thief!

Lirkin · April 2015

I had it happen to me also. Got to the door and was able to use it but got yanked back in and killed. Stupid.

I didn't fight back but tried to escape. Ended up kill on sight for a while when I didn't kill anyone or fight back. Kind of dumb being kill on sight for thieving after being killed by the guard already.

Endurance · April 2015

Raygee wrote: »

Yesterday I was doing my usual stealthing route in Rawl'kha. In the Inn I got caught, which wouldn't be that bad; usually I either wait for the small bounty to disappear or I just sneak out, no big deal, right?
Well, but this time I got attacked by one of the two NPCs in the upper floor (in the back room). I didn't fight back, and even if I would want to, I couldn't since I have the "prevent innocents" option enabled, but I tried to flee out of the door downstairs.
After a few attempts to grab the door knob, I even could make it to the outside, but in the next moment, I suddenly was pulled back to the inside, so I let her just kill my character.

I mean, when I'm actually OUT already, shouldn't I stay there?
I know that this "door issue" was discussed here quite often, but this pull-back was new to me, this shouldn't happen, I think. If I can access a door, I'm supposed to be on the other side, am I not?

If fleeing is no option in this system (in case you are INside a building), then what's the point? I don't want to fight, just steal and disappear, like every good thief would do this, I guess.

just run and when it chain grabs u then roll away and run then run at normal speed for stamina regen and repeat.. guards never catch me but in your case it sounds like its a bug

Moonshadow66 · April 2015

@dwemer_paleologist

It's not about to "go free", I still would have the bounty, after all.

But, if we could reliably access the door, my idea would be to get an even higher bounty as soon as we went out there (or KoS, to make it harder to flee^^). It's not that I want to easily escape after I stole some fine goods

But as it is right now, we only can either fight back or get our characters killed. None of these two options is a good one (well, except for these players who kill everything and everyone anyways).

Xendyn · April 2015

Think I can explain what's happening here, we run across this in Cyro all the time in keeps.
When you spam that door, you're getting some lag and when it catches up, it pops you out the door and back in. Happens with weapon swap, too. You'll try to swap and when it doesn't work you hit it again and end up swapping right back to your first bar.

Not much I can tell you that will actually help, I'm afraid, but I hear ya

Moonshadow66 · April 2015

c00lmon wrote: »

I had it happen to me also. Got to the door and was able to use it but got yanked back in and killed. Stupid.

I didn't fight back but tried to escape. Ended up kill on sight for a while when I didn't kill anyone or fight back. Kind of dumb being kill on sight for thieving after being killed by the guard already.

Oh wow, I think this should definitely be removed after being killed already.
Hehe, but while you were posting this, I was writing on the next (now previous) post, to get a KoS after escaping a building. I think then it would be something we can deal with, especially outside where we can try to flee whereever we want, instead of "steal - caught - killed" which IS stupid indeed.

Moonshadow66 · April 2015

Endurance wrote: »

Raygee wrote: »

Yesterday I was doing my usual stealthing route in Rawl'kha. In the Inn I got caught, which wouldn't be that bad; usually I either wait for the small bounty to disappear or I just sneak out, no big deal, right?
Well, but this time I got attacked by one of the two NPCs in the upper floor (in the back room). I didn't fight back, and even if I would want to, I couldn't since I have the "prevent innocents" option enabled, but I tried to flee out of the door downstairs.
After a few attempts to grab the door knob, I even could make it to the outside, but in the next moment, I suddenly was pulled back to the inside, so I let her just kill my character.

I mean, when I'm actually OUT already, shouldn't I stay there?
I know that this "door issue" was discussed here quite often, but this pull-back was new to me, this shouldn't happen, I think. If I can access a door, I'm supposed to be on the other side, am I not?

If fleeing is no option in this system (in case you are INside a building), then what's the point? I don't want to fight, just steal and disappear, like every good thief would do this, I guess.

just run and when it chain grabs u then roll away and run then run at normal speed for stamina regen and repeat.. guards never catch me but in your case it sounds like its a bug

Yeah, outside it's no problem, I've done this, too

But in my OP, this was not even about the guards, just a normal NPC which didn't even use any chains, I think. I was just pulled back, or "beamed" back, in this case. There was no escape from this, it happened withing a second.

Moonshadow66 · April 2015

Xendyn wrote: »

Think I can explain what's happening here, we run across this in Cyro all the time in keeps.
When you spam that door, you're getting some lag and when it catches up, it pops you out the door and back in. Happens with weapon swap, too. You'll try to swap and when it doesn't work you hit it again and end up swapping right back to your first bar.

Not much I can tell you that will actually help, I'm afraid, but I hear ya

Oh ok, I didn't know about this since I don't (can't) do PvP, and I rarely swap weapons

But thanks for posting this, maybe it IS related to this issue :-)