RIP Chillrend

Alomar · April 2015

Oh no, now there's another guild to blame for causing lag!?! Damn it's almost as if it's the server tech and not the players at all, crazy tin foil hat *** amiright?

RedTalon · April 2015

Explains why there was mo que for DC last night on chill

Huntler · April 2015

Alomar wrote: »

Oh no, now there's another guild to blame for causing lag!?! Damn it's almost as if it's the server tech and not the players at all, crazy tin foil hat *** amiright?

Its a combination of factors where ultimately the server tech/product we are playing is at fault. That doesn't change the fact that we all know exactly what leads to the lag to begin with and some of us have been trying to play around it (aka avoid certain groups or servers those groups frequent). Don't ask me, ask any of the blue we've been fighting on Chill. Last month very rarely did I encounter anything like thornblade lag (yes a handful of times it happens, but usually isolated and quick).

Agrippa_Invisus · April 2015

Alomar wrote: »

Oh no, now there's another guild to blame for causing lag!?! Damn it's almost as if it's the server tech and not the players at all, crazy tin foil hat *** amiright?

I know, right?

I thought it was this one guild, that's still playing Thornblade, now I think it's this other guild.

I AM SO CONFUSED!

What sort of other hackusations are going to be thrown around?

FENGRUSH · April 2015

Huntler wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

It amazes me how people blame a whole group of people for causing the lag when in reality, Chillrend has been lagging really hard for the past 2weeks at least every evening during peek times. I have been there, I know what I'm talking about. The group everyone blame for lagging the server recently switched, yesterday evening. The lag was happening way before their arrival and it is not the fault of anyone, not even ZOS.

The recent change of the game to B2P brought thousand of players new players, and old players back into Cyrodiil. When 3 factions are max pop and a big fight happens around a keep and inside on the flags, lag always occurs. NO MATTER what, it does occurs. Shut up already with the blames and get real. The only reason you QQ is because a certain faction got emperor and captured a scroll. Something you tried really hard to prevent without success. Don't tell me you were lagging in that cave when u tried to run the scroll back, nah han. You got outplayed zerged down in a laggy free environement.

Fixed.

And to counter your first paragraph, I too have been playing Chillrend, since 1.6 went live and while yes there has been lag at times, in the overall scheme of things it has been relatively minimal. Never for as long or felt like last night. Last night felt like thornblade all freaking night. But pat yourselves on the back for zerging everything down and "outplaying" people .

You do realize we were farming red the whole night? We were never going to be able to keep the scroll once we wiped an entire zerg to take it, spawning was too close, our goal was to kill red that was it (which I why where we fought was where we fought). I like how you somehow think that entire experience was anything, but a win for us.

As fengrush said (can't believe I'm agreeing with him),

this is what denial looks like.

Why is it so difficult to agree with FENGRUSH?

Huntler · April 2015

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Alomar wrote: »

Oh no, now there's another guild to blame for causing lag!?! Damn it's almost as if it's the server tech and not the players at all, crazy tin foil hat *** amiright?

I know, right?

I thought it was this one guild, that's still playing Thornblade, now I think it's this other guild.

I AM SO CONFUSED!

What sort of other hackusations are going to be thrown around?

I'm not accusing anything, if anyone else is well thats on them, I'm not naive enough to think theres that going on. Its the play-style of certain groups that inevitably leads to this. As I said before this is ultimately the product's fault, but I made the post lamenting the fact that trying to play around the problem that led to a lot of fun the last month is basically gone now.

No hacks, play-style.

Agrippa_Invisus · April 2015

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Huntler wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

It amazes me how people blame a whole group of people for causing the lag when in reality, Chillrend has been lagging really hard for the past 2weeks at least every evening during peek times. I have been there, I know what I'm talking about. The group everyone blame for lagging the server recently switched, yesterday evening. The lag was happening way before their arrival and it is not the fault of anyone, not even ZOS.

The recent change of the game to B2P brought thousand of players new players, and old players back into Cyrodiil. When 3 factions are max pop and a big fight happens around a keep and inside on the flags, lag always occurs. NO MATTER what, it does occurs. Shut up already with the blames and get real. The only reason you QQ is because a certain faction got emperor and captured a scroll. Something you tried really hard to prevent without success. Don't tell me you were lagging in that cave when u tried to run the scroll back, nah han. You got outplayed zerged down in a laggy free environement.

Fixed.

And to counter your first paragraph, I too have been playing Chillrend, since 1.6 went live and while yes there has been lag at times, in the overall scheme of things it has been relatively minimal. Never for as long or felt like last night. Last night felt like thornblade all freaking night. But pat yourselves on the back for zerging everything down and "outplaying" people .

You do realize we were farming red the whole night? We were never going to be able to keep the scroll once we wiped an entire zerg to take it, spawning was too close, our goal was to kill red that was it (which I why where we fought was where we fought). I like how you somehow think that entire experience was anything, but a win for us.

As fengrush said (can't believe I'm agreeing with him),

this is what denial looks like.

Why is it so difficult to agree with FENGRUSH?

His caps lock key rejects the proper spelling of your name.

Huntler · April 2015

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Huntler wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

It amazes me how people blame a whole group of people for causing the lag when in reality, Chillrend has been lagging really hard for the past 2weeks at least every evening during peek times. I have been there, I know what I'm talking about. The group everyone blame for lagging the server recently switched, yesterday evening. The lag was happening way before their arrival and it is not the fault of anyone, not even ZOS.

The recent change of the game to B2P brought thousand of players new players, and old players back into Cyrodiil. When 3 factions are max pop and a big fight happens around a keep and inside on the flags, lag always occurs. NO MATTER what, it does occurs. Shut up already with the blames and get real. The only reason you QQ is because a certain faction got emperor and captured a scroll. Something you tried really hard to prevent without success. Don't tell me you were lagging in that cave when u tried to run the scroll back, nah han. You got outplayed zerged down in a laggy free environement.

Fixed.

And to counter your first paragraph, I too have been playing Chillrend, since 1.6 went live and while yes there has been lag at times, in the overall scheme of things it has been relatively minimal. Never for as long or felt like last night. Last night felt like thornblade all freaking night. But pat yourselves on the back for zerging everything down and "outplaying" people .

You do realize we were farming red the whole night? We were never going to be able to keep the scroll once we wiped an entire zerg to take it, spawning was too close, our goal was to kill red that was it (which I why where we fought was where we fought). I like how you somehow think that entire experience was anything, but a win for us.

As fengrush said (can't believe I'm agreeing with him),

this is what denial looks like.

Why is it so difficult to agree with FENGRUSH?

His caps lock key rejects the proper spelling of your name.

He's onto something here... ^^

Agrippa_Invisus · April 2015

Huntler wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Alomar wrote: »

Oh no, now there's another guild to blame for causing lag!?! Damn it's almost as if it's the server tech and not the players at all, crazy tin foil hat *** amiright?

I know, right?

I thought it was this one guild, that's still playing Thornblade, now I think it's this other guild.

I AM SO CONFUSED!

What sort of other hackusations are going to be thrown around?

I'm not accusing anything, if anyone else is well thats on them, I'm not naive enough to think theres that going on. Its the play-style of certain groups that inevitably leads to this. As I said before this is ultimately the product's fault, but I made the post lamenting the fact that trying to play around the problem that led to a lot of fun the last month is basically gone now.

No hacks, play-style.

Fair enough, though it's hard not to mock (especially today of all days) the amount of hyperbole that gets tossed around on the forums concerning this issue.

It's really, really, really easy to suffer the same issues. Any sort of stack fighting combined with ulti drops (especially ones that have multiple physics components to them *kaffkaffmeteorkaffkaff*) has the potential for server lag. IMO, the lag has been a touch better overall (counting Thorn and other servers) because siege is so punishing to that stack warfare, but otoh, once the stack gets to the point the lag is bad enough, siege stops working and it's back to Lagsville, population Everyone.

It's telling, in regards to how terrible the Cyrodiil servers or server code is, that when the guilds do start spreading out to multiple servers just like ZOS wanted the lag continues.

technohic · April 2015

They just moved yesterday.
Yesterday was the first day that I have been mostly lag free in Thorn all week.

Have fun Chillrend.

FireCowCommando · April 2015

technohic wrote: »

They just moved yesterday.
Yesterday was the first day that I have been mostly lag free in Thorn all week.

Have fun Chillrend.

Transfered out on day 1 of new reset =-D

deleted221205-002626 · April 2015

lol.. last night was a group of 20v300 all night.. Its obviously that certain group of 20's fault the servers laggin right?!?

Huntler · April 2015

michaelpatterson wrote: »

lol.. last night was a group of 20v300 all night.. Its obviously that certain group of 20's fault the servers laggin right?!?

This.... this is funny.

deleted221205-002626 · April 2015

Huntler wrote: »

michaelpatterson wrote: »

lol.. last night was a group of 20v300 all night.. Its obviously that certain group of 20's fault the servers laggin right?!?

This.... this is funny.

actually not even.. 17 if I recall =p

FENGRUSH · April 2015

michaelpatterson wrote: »

lol.. last night was a group of 20v300 all night.. Its obviously that certain group of 20's fault the servers laggin right?!?

I think DC had more than 20 people on last night. I did get on kind of late though.

deleted221205-002626 · April 2015

FENGRUSH wrote: »

michaelpatterson wrote: »

lol.. last night was a group of 20v300 all night.. Its obviously that certain group of 20's fault the servers laggin right?!?

I think DC had more than 20 people on last night. I did get on kind of late though.

yes they most certainly did =p

FireCowCommando · April 2015

FENGRUSH wrote: »

michaelpatterson wrote: »

lol.. last night was a group of 20v300 all night.. Its obviously that certain group of 20's fault the servers laggin right?!?

I think DC had more than 20 people on last night. I did get on kind of late though.

Fengrush Fengrush Fengrush, Fengrush Fengrush.

Fengrush, Fengrush?

Fengrush!

Agrippa_Invisus · April 2015

At least from my perspective, the three way fight at Chalman Keep was a lot of fun last night.

And I didn't experience any lag during the events, so that was a key part of the enjoyment. Got a lot of kills, died a couple times, and got to duo with an old friend and catch up.

And it was extra special fun times ganking the vampire sent behind to try to rez AD's dead that were on the east wall of Chalman. I remember your old tricks.

Joy_Division · April 2015

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

At least from my perspective, the three way fight at Chalman Keep was a lot of fun last night.

And I didn't experience any lag during the events, so that was a key part of the enjoyment. Got a lot of kills, died a couple times, and got to duo with an old friend and catch up.

And it was extra special fun times ganking the vampire sent behind to try to rez AD's dead that were on the east wall of Chalman. I remember your old tricks.

Yep, that fight @ Chalman was lots of fun. And I even saw they who shall not be named there. Go figure.

Gorthax · April 2015

derpsticks wrote: »

Yup, I'm consider a switch to somewhere else. Over the last week the lag has gotten worse and worse and tonight the rate at which ep took emp sicked me.

YAY ITS DERPSTICKS

good fight last night :P (Xahtrog)

skarvika · April 2015

"There is no population imbalance"

But yeah, 2 big EP guilds switched to Chillrend and it's thrown everything out of whack. DC only won last campaign through extreme organization, but the numbers game was not in our favor most of the time. One of the higher ups in my guild has talked about switching servers and frankly, I'd like that very much.

Jauriel · April 2015

Sphinx2318 wrote: »

RUN RUN all you want to.......The guild that you refuse to call out will follow you because all they want to do is fight top talent. You're not getting away from it. Period.

And your claim is the top talent is in Chill?

Jauriel · April 2015

technohic wrote: »

They just moved yesterday.
Yesterday was the first day that I have been mostly lag free in Thorn all week.

Have fun Chillrend.

Question is did they move for good or just guesting?

Armitas · April 2015

Campaigns don't even need players to lag. I was on had this morning fighting a sorc, there were maybe 14 max at the keep. 12 were just stealthed watching. Sorc was rubber banding so bad I couldn't even tell which direction he was bolting. I whispered him and he was at 400 ping. That form just 2 people fighting.

Xiphyla · April 2015

frozywozy wrote: »

cozmon3c_ESO wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

It amazes me how people blame a whole group of people for causing the lag when in reality, Chillrend has been lagging really hard for the past 2weeks at least every evening during peek times. I have been there, I know what I'm talking about. The group everyone blame for lagging the server recently switched, yesterday evening. The lag was happening way before their arrival and it is not the fault of anyone, not even ZOS.

The recent change of the game to B2P brought thousand of players new players, and old players back into Cyrodiil. When 3 factions are max pop and a big fight happens around a keep and inside on the flags, lag always occurs. NO MATTER what, it does occurs. Shut up already with the blames and get real. The only reason you QQ is because a certain faction got emperor and captured a scroll. Something you tried really hard to prevent without success. Don't tell me you were lagging in that cave when u tried to run the scroll back, nah han. You got outplayed in a lag free environement.

its probably because the guild who shall not be named is next to you all the time, lol. things were bad last night, i dont think my ping went below 200 for most the night and was spiking like crazy all night. before the guild who shall not be named showed up atleast ping would normalize back down to 60-70. this delay in abilities is what made me change campaignes to chill to begin with, and looks like i will have to change again because of these guys breaking the server. ill probably go back to thorn, it probably doesnt lag like it used too and is the new chillrend now.

The group everyone blame for lagging up the server recently switched yesterday (march 31th). I have played regulary on Chillrend for the past 2weeks and let me tell you that my ping has gone all the way up to 3-4k several times when a certain group of AD or a certain group of DC would be fighting around keeps. I'm not blaming them. It is the fact that all three factions were pop locked with at least 40 players in the same area using aoe spells. Go back to Thornblade if you want, the same thing will happen there unless one or more of the following solutions happen :

- They lower the population caps, again (even if I would not like it);
- They find a way to improve performances during primetime;
- They find other ways to spread out people even more.

Note : spreading out people won't change much because in the end, all it takes is a full raid of experienced players to use alot of aoe abilities against another group to overload the server when all factions are max pop.

Doubt that will happen.

Sphinx2318 · April 2015

Jauriel wrote: »

Sphinx2318 wrote: »

RUN RUN all you want to.......The guild that you refuse to call out will follow you because all they want to do is fight top talent. You're not getting away from it. Period.

And your claim is the top talent is in Chill?

Decibel and Alacrity are AD top talent yes... MBF is DC's best

Gorthax · April 2015

Armitas wrote: »

Campaigns don't even need players to lag. I was on had this morning fighting a sorc, there were maybe 14 max at the keep. 12 were just stealthed watching. Sorc was rubber banding so bad I couldn't even tell which direction he was bolting. I whispered him and he was at 400 ping. That form just 2 people fighting.

some people have crap connections to begin with, so it isnt always the server. If you play with poor internet to begin with that kind of stuff will happen

Happened to me on Chill last night, was fighting three guys and one of them was rubber banding so bad but I only had 55 ping. Come to find out that guy had about 999 lol and was trying to play on satellite internet after going over his monthly limit.

Jauriel · April 2015

Sphinx2318 wrote: »

Jauriel wrote: »

Sphinx2318 wrote: »

RUN RUN all you want to.......The guild that you refuse to call out will follow you because all they want to do is fight top talent. You're not getting away from it. Period.

And your claim is the top talent is in Chill?

Decibel and Alacrity are AD top talent yes... MBF is DC's best

mad respect for MBF but they're not just in Chill.

Sphinx2318 · April 2015

Jauriel wrote: »

Sphinx2318 wrote: »

Jauriel wrote: »

Sphinx2318 wrote: »

RUN RUN all you want to.......The guild that you refuse to call out will follow you because all they want to do is fight top talent. You're not getting away from it. Period.

And your claim is the top talent is in Chill?

Decibel and Alacrity are AD top talent yes... MBF is DC's best

mad respect for MBF but they're not just in Chill.

i know that MBF homes Thorn (where i just came from) but if there is a chance that 3 of the best enemy guilds in ESO NA are in one campaign -- at one time.......that's where the good EP guilds are gonna want to be. my only point.

Zhoyzu · April 2015

I've been on chill for a few weeks now. Its been lag free in every scenario. I'm also not accustomed to lag ever on ESO. I didn't PvP yesterday but I hope that this lag hasn't shifted to chill.