Why am I not experiencing the horse thing?

regarding - tons of feedback except no one has read it - You don't know that. It is entirely possible that many people have read it, or key people have read it, or forum mods have read it and thought it interesting and passed it on to key people...you just don't know

now, I can understand that you'd like some acknowledgement of your thread - we all like being publicly appreciated - hey, Naor - we read your post on mature themes, and we've passed it on to our development manager to yada yada yada...

that would be nice. I freely admit that - I'd love to see ZOS personally thank me for my compelling insight on whatever I had random thoughts on this afternoon. I'd get all warm and fuzzy inside, maybe even encourage me to log in tonight and play ESO over Pillars of Eternity...

but frankly, I don't need any feedback from ZOS. I'd be stunned if they *did* read my suggestion. Because I'm one guy out of thousands that post their random drivel on this board daily - maybe I really am the innovative genius I like to think I am - maybe my idea is drek and I should shut up and play silently from now on...I dunno - in the end, I pay the people at ESO to make a game for me to play, or I don't and get to play slightly less of the game for free. Point is, it's their game - their responsibility to develop content that keeps me playing, or lose me forever.

They can listen to me or choose not to. If I post an idea on this forum and they use it, they aren't obligated (legally at least, and quite frankly, not even ethically) to throw me so much as a dime, or even mention my name. It would be nice if they did, but they don't have to, and quite frankly, I'd be stoked just to see my idea make it into a game regardless of credit (course, at that point, I gotta stop throwing around my genius for free, but that's a different issue)

I went on there a bit - point is, you don't know what they've read or haven't read, and demanding that they keep you updated on their day to day activities with the material that you post on THEIR message boards that they may or may not be using is...well, it'd be a lot more energy and effort than any company has ever spent before on their forum goers, as far as I can remember.


As for second thing, polls existing - of course polls exist. LOTS of polls exist. Lots of polls get lots of responses. Doesn't necessarily mean that those responses are well thought out, or that the polls are well thought out. Doesn't mean that the poll, even if it IS well thought out, is still going to mesh with whatever the developers WANT the game to be vs whatever the poll-maker wants the game to be like...and etc...

so again, commenting on a poll simply because it gets a significant response (and I suspect that 400 people, while a moderately impressive forum #, still doesn't constitute a significant response to a game community that I'm sure ZOS hopes measures in the hundreds of thousands) is counter-productive to the devs working on the actual game. Maybe they're already headed in that direction but if they respond to your poll it'll look like they took advice from you and then expect you to sue them when they create something that happened to be kinda like your poll that they were already doing all on their own (NEVER underestimate the lengths a business will go to ensure that it can't get sued by some guy hoping to make a quick buck off of a coincidence) - maybe they CAN'T make more mature themes because of censors or whatnot but don't want to quash your dreams of a more mature ESO...

point is, there are about at least a thousand possible things going on behind the scenes regarding your post, your poll, your ideas, your recommendations, your requests and your priorities, and how ZOS is reacting to it (assuming they've read it at all) - and while I can understand that you WANT feedback, you'd feel more connected and appreciated with feedback, I just don't think it's a realistic expectation - I don't believe that any of us has so much of the attention of ZOS that the company is hoping to have direct feedback on a consistent basis with us - and ten-to-one, if there IS someone that ZOS follows and is listening to on a direct basis, that communication is almost certainly private, and probably accompanied by several legal documents.

I'm not trying to make you angry or put you down - I just think you're expecting too much in the way of response, for the format of these forums. I'm serious - if you're really, REALLY serious about making a change to ESO - if you really think that your idea merits a significant design change/development shift from ESO, then it's time to write up a letter - put together a pitch, a proposal - do a powerpoint presentation - film it - get some data on user #'s, other games that have mature ratings, maybe do some research on video-game censorship standards and propose some ideas for confronting the obstacles that ESO would encounter in changing it's level of maturity - or whatever issue you think deserves direct response from ZOS...



in short, if you think your suggestions should be taken so seriously that a multi-million dollar company should feel obligated to respond, it's time to start acting like a professional businessman (or woman) and deliver your idea that way - not use a free website where any schlob with an opinion can blather on for 30 minutes like I just did...

In all code development a known bugs and issues list is recorded and updated. I am not saying ZOS should release every detail, but a proper bugs page just acknowledging the major issues might help.

Just a title and a brief description and maybe even a comments page for people to add more feedback. Just to make people feel like they are being listened to and ZOS is working on the problem. Doesn't even need a due date. At the moment people dont even seem confident ZOS know what the bugs are, which is the main reason they are upset. I sure that is not true but as there is limited feedback from the company on some reported issues it is not fantastic for customer relations.

Naor_Sarethi wrote: »

When things like PvP lag, horse stuttering, content issues etc are adressed in the Q&A and elsewhere, the response on ESO live and in separate threads is: "Give us more feedback", with the attitude of "as far as we know, everything runs smoothly".
And that while the forum is overflowing with complaints, suggestions and ideas from people who actually care enough about the game to share them.
In return, it seems noone reads them, and none of the feedback actually makes it to the people working on the game.
Major issues ruining the game experience as well as REALLY constructive feedback over 9 pages long seem to be shrugged off and disregarded.
In a game, that is *entirely* based on its community, that community seems to have no real voice.
And to add... what most people are asking here is very realistic, and doable.

It's obvious ZOS are playing ESO from the far far future where they've perfected the client to a point where when they peer into the past and these forums they can't relate.

(All these issues have been in the game since alpha. I don't see them getting adressed anytime soon )

Yeah. Make us at least feel that you even cares, ZOS.

@pecheckler This actually looks like a forum we could use here and definitively looks like the devs on that game do care.

Edit: it seems, the post with the sample forum image was removed.