xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

Erock25 wrote: »

@xsorusb14_ESO I am surprised that someone who 2 shots people so often would feel it is even worth their time to complain about Sorcerers so much. In your fight with Ezareth, you started it with about 5% stamina and he had Defensive Rune up and you still made short work of him. Do you honestly feel Sorc shields are still out of balance, especially when compared to your 30k dmg you pull off consistently in 2 global cool downs?

The best part is I just came from an Ayelid well buff too.

Several things to note in that fight. First I took him for a NB as I just saw someone with a bow so I popped a detection pot which was my first mistake as I killed any bonus stamina or stamina recovery that I rely on. Second (and this isn't clear in the video) I reflected his meteor which he then reflected back at me. The problem with meteor is after it is reflected twice it becomes invisible and I didn't know that and couldn't see it so not only did I not block the reflected meteor I sat in the dot which then killed me.

He actually instaggibed me a bit earlier to with his bow as well. One second I was alive with full health and shields the next I was dead and the *only* thing in my death recap was a 12,000 damage camo hunter proc. That made a nice screen shot.

Anyways entertaining video and great fights Xsorus. Your build exemplifies that I've been trying to say both about damage shields and stamina cost-reduction enchants.

lol, I have that video saved..

i didn't want to put it in because others were with me, but yea I fired off i think it was Focused Aim, you teleported like a mile away then died...Said like I guess 3 procs for 5000+ hit ya (all crits) Not sure I got 3 procs off to be honest.

As i didn't hit ya with the Venom Arrow/Light Attack Combo with it.

As for shields..Yes I do feel they're out of balance..simply because they force you into something like i'm running to even have a chance to break them..negating every other setup (dots/tanks/medium damage builds)

They'd have to nerf damage afterward of things like Wrecking Blow of course..(Crystal Frags/Focused aim ect ect) but as long as shields are powerful like they are..you'll have to spec full burst.

That's crazy considering it is a 4% chance to proc. There is definitely something bugged with Cammo hunter.

You got the killing blow on me on my next run back after that, also with cammo hunter although there were others beating on me as well. It's crazy that in 2 *very* short engagements you had 4 cammo procs on me when I'm not a Vampire.

And yeah I've said I'd be fine with some minor nerfs to shields as long as they effectively reduced the top end damage abilities right now. I don't really consider Crystal Fragments to be one of the TBH since it does far less damage on the top end than any of those abilities and it is the most counterable (and reflectable) ability out of all the "Heavy hitting" abilities.

That said, I'd love to get another go at you sometime without a horde of AD and DC around and without me derping myself with a detect pot/meteor. Might be a nice finishing touch for my own soon to be released video( = (or maybe not / = )

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

Erock25 wrote: »

@xsorusb14_ESO I am surprised that someone who 2 shots people so often would feel it is even worth their time to complain about Sorcerers so much. In your fight with Ezareth, you started it with about 5% stamina and he had Defensive Rune up and you still made short work of him. Do you honestly feel Sorc shields are still out of balance, especially when compared to your 30k dmg you pull off consistently in 2 global cool downs?

The best part is I just came from an Ayelid well buff too.

Several things to note in that fight. First I took him for a NB as I just saw someone with a bow so I popped a detection pot which was my first mistake as I killed any bonus stamina or stamina recovery that I rely on. Second (and this isn't clear in the video) I reflected his meteor which he then reflected back at me. The problem with meteor is after it is reflected twice it becomes invisible and I didn't know that and couldn't see it so not only did I not block the reflected meteor I sat in the dot which then killed me.

He actually instaggibed me a bit earlier to with his bow as well. One second I was alive with full health and shields the next I was dead and the *only* thing in my death recap was a 12,000 damage camo hunter proc. That made a nice screen shot.

Anyways entertaining video and great fights Xsorus. Your build exemplifies that I've been trying to say both about damage shields and stamina cost-reduction enchants.

lol, I have that video saved..

i didn't want to put it in because others were with me, but yea I fired off i think it was Focused Aim, you teleported like a mile away then died...Said like I guess 3 procs for 5000+ hit ya (all crits) Not sure I got 3 procs off to be honest.

As i didn't hit ya with the Venom Arrow/Light Attack Combo with it.

As for shields..Yes I do feel they're out of balance..simply because they force you into something like i'm running to even have a chance to break them..negating every other setup (dots/tanks/medium damage builds)

They'd have to nerf damage afterward of things like Wrecking Blow of course..(Crystal Frags/Focused aim ect ect) but as long as shields are powerful like they are..you'll have to spec full burst.

That's crazy considering it is a 4% chance to proc. There is definitely something bugged with Cammo hunter.

You got the killing blow on me on my next run back after that, also with cammo hunter although there were others beating on me as well. It's crazy that in 2 *very* short engagements you had 4 cammo procs on me when I'm not a Vampire.

And yeah I've said I'd be fine with some minor nerfs to shields as long as they effectively reduced the top end damage abilities right now. I don't really consider Crystal Fragments to be one of the TBH since it does far less damage on the top end than any of those abilities and it is the most counterable (and reflectable) ability out of all the "Heavy hitting" abilities.

That said, I'd love to get another go at you sometime without a horde of AD and DC around and without me derping myself with a detect pot/meteor. Might be a nice finishing touch for my own soon to be released video( = (or maybe not / = )

lol I just realized what procced it.

It was the disease damage proc that set it off...You had 10k+ from focused aim, it ate through what little shield you had left..and did about 5k to ya...Then it set off a Camo Hunter proc for 5k or so, and then the disease nuke for 200 damage set it off as well.

That's literally a 1 in 100,000 shot if the math is what we think it should be (4% chance and 12.5% chance for disease proc). Wish I had something like that. )=

All I have is me killing around 30 people in about 5 minutes a couple nights ago solo while they chased me.....and my hard drive was full so I had none of it on video. Tamriel Unlimited has really brought back all sorts of terrible.

Check the actual YouTube page; the gear is listed there.

Erock25 wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

Erock25 wrote: »

@xsorusb14_ESO I am surprised that someone who 2 shots people so often would feel it is even worth their time to complain about Sorcerers so much. In your fight with Ezareth, you started it with about 5% stamina and he had Defensive Rune up and you still made short work of him. Do you honestly feel Sorc shields are still out of balance, especially when compared to your 30k dmg you pull off consistently in 2 global cool downs?

The best part is I just came from an Ayelid well buff too.

Several things to note in that fight. First I took him for a NB as I just saw someone with a bow so I popped a detection pot which was my first mistake as I killed any bonus stamina or stamina recovery that I rely on. Second (and this isn't clear in the video) I reflected his meteor which he then reflected back at me. The problem with meteor is after it is reflected twice it becomes invisible and I didn't know that and couldn't see it so not only did I not block the reflected meteor I sat in the dot which then killed me.

He actually instaggibed me a bit earlier to with his bow as well. One second I was alive with full health and shields the next I was dead and the *only* thing in my death recap was a 12,000 damage camo hunter proc. That made a nice screen shot.

Anyways entertaining video and great fights Xsorus. Your build exemplifies that I've been trying to say both about damage shields and stamina cost-reduction enchants.

lol, I have that video saved..

i didn't want to put it in because others were with me, but yea I fired off i think it was Focused Aim, you teleported like a mile away then died...Said like I guess 3 procs for 5000+ hit ya (all crits) Not sure I got 3 procs off to be honest.

As i didn't hit ya with the Venom Arrow/Light Attack Combo with it.

As for shields..Yes I do feel they're out of balance..simply because they force you into something like i'm running to even have a chance to break them..negating every other setup (dots/tanks/medium damage builds)

They'd have to nerf damage afterward of things like Wrecking Blow of course..(Crystal Frags/Focused aim ect ect) but as long as shields are powerful like they are..you'll have to spec full burst.

That's crazy considering it is a 4% chance to proc. There is definitely something bugged with Cammo hunter.

You got the killing blow on me on my next run back after that, also with cammo hunter although there were others beating on me as well. It's crazy that in 2 *very* short engagements you had 4 cammo procs on me when I'm not a Vampire.

And yeah I've said I'd be fine with some minor nerfs to shields as long as they effectively reduced the top end damage abilities right now. I don't really consider Crystal Fragments to be one of the TBH since it does far less damage on the top end than any of those abilities and it is the most counterable (and reflectable) ability out of all the "Heavy hitting" abilities.

That said, I'd love to get another go at you sometime without a horde of AD and DC around and without me derping myself with a detect pot/meteor. Might be a nice finishing touch for my own soon to be released video( = (or maybe not / = )

@Ezareth I'm personally convinced there is something weird going on with Camo Hunter. Most of my deaths are some bow user hitting me from stealth (usually while fighting someone else) and I very frequently see Camo Hunter on the recap. I fought this one guy 3 times in a row while he defended a resource and three times in a row I had Camo Hunter procs on me. I think there is a way to bug it out or it is just naturally bugged to do the proc damage against non-vamps from stealth.

Yeah it wouldn't surprise me if people had discovered a way to cause it to proc far more often than it should.

My favorite part of Camo Hunter is it could never distinguish between hits that came first from stealth

meaning if ya timed it right, you could set off 3 procs from stealth with Snipe/Venom Arrow/Light Attack