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20% AP Buff for Killing Boss In Cyrodiil Delves
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jnjdun_ESO✭✭✭The EP clown car is getting gassed, tuned up and ready to [snip] this up too. They are probably already in their TS planning their delve routes.
Watching 12 to 24 people zerg blob through these caves is going to be soooo much fun.
ZOS....you guys really need to make it so we can switch campaigns at will and have our score just follow us, so we can try to avoid the blobs. Please don’t say you can't do it because people play alts in different alliances. That ship sailed. So easy to get around that "restriction".
If everybody just keeps leaving the campaigns the main blobbers are on that will definitely help the lag situation and everyone is happy except for said blobbers.
[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Rude and Insulting comments]Edited by ZOS_AlexD on March 30, 2015 9:47PMGiggle Purrz'Pantz Khajiit Templar
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technohic✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I can see it now with a full raid. "Alright, hour is up. Turn in quests and rally at X Delve. Stack on crown" (Load in to a group waiting just spamming AOE at the entrance)3 -
Sacadon✭✭✭✭✭ZOS certainly knows how to shake things up. I think the change is overall great for PvP. It'll be interesting to see the reaction to those seeking the dungeon achievements.1 -
derpsticks✭✭✭✭Loading screens will be the death and frustration of many from this day forth. I wish these delves were worth their loading screen. They a miniscule in size compared to cyrodiil yet the loading takes just as long.
I'd rather this buff be given to players who complete an overworld dolmen or at least 1 of the town quests.3 -
technohic✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭What happens when you die in a delve in Cyrodiil? Do you respawn at the entrance, or do you get to chose a place like dieing elsewhere in Cyro?0 -
xDOVAHKIINx✭✭✭/facepalm ESO is such a PVE game. Forcing players to pve to be competitive, from our gear to our F$%#@$% AP.
stupid ZOS"According to most of the people on these forums, every organized 16 man guild group is a lagblobbing pulsespamming zerg."-Fmonk4 -
Rylana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Some of my most memorable fights happened in delves looking for skyshards, achievements, and collecting mats.
Some of the terrain/chokes/LOS in those delves is amazing, and I welcome this fully. There is one specific cave in mind I hope the majority dont flood, as its a paradise for my playstyle 1vX.@rylanadionysis == Closed Beta Tester October 2013 == Retired October 2016 == Uninstalled @ One Tamriel Release == Inactive Indefinitely
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Awe✭✭✭First you make a "kill 20 players" quest 1 time a day to avoid ppl running away from battle for a new portion of questing(this was changed a bit later). now you make ppl run to delves every hour for the buff? tested. lost more time(and possible AP) to find alive boss than would get w/o it, plus half ally was delving and lost keeps (DC/thornblade)0
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Ezareth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Some of my most memorable fights happened in delves looking for skyshards, achievements, and collecting mats.
Some of the terrain/chokes/LOS in those delves is amazing, and I welcome this fully. There is one specific cave in mind I hope the majority dont flood, as its a paradise for my playstyle 1vX.
Yeah I love the LoS and chokes in caves. Nothing like hiding a bunch of mines around a tight corner with some nightblade chasing you into....Surprise!
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MasterSpatula✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭This is the kind of stuff I really wish they would announce ahead of time.
ESO is only the second game I've ever enjoyed PVP in, but only because it feels like it means something. Gank squads and AP faming on the bridge, however, are exactly the kind of sheer, unadulterated awfulness that drove me away from PVP in every other game. It's meaningless; it's boring; and there's a whole lot of people reveling in being *** to each other.
Let's welcome this behavior to delves! Woo-hoo, what could be more fun than fighting your way to the bottom of a delve only to be a cheap source of AP for a group of gankers--and having to respawn at a keep instead of using a gem or the delve shrine?
Plainly, I'm in a minority here. This is a very popular step--though I notice there hasn't been a lot of lauding the actual AP bonus so much as there's been bragging about all the murdering and farming that's going to happen. Classy."A probable impossibility is preferable to an improbable possibility." - Aristotle1 -
WebBull✭✭✭✭✭
✭I think this is going to be fun but even if it doesn't work out I applaud ZOS for the attention they have been giving AvA the last few weeks.
Now some food for thought, how about making some delves capture-able and worth points?1 -
Ezareth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭MasterSpatula wrote: »This is the kind of stuff I really wish they would announce ahead of time.
ESO is only the second game I've ever enjoyed PVP in, but only because it feels like it means something. Gank squads and AP faming on the bridge, however, are exactly the kind of sheer, unadulterated awfulness that drove me away from PVP in every other game. It's meaningless; it's boring; and there's a whole lot of people reveling in being *** to each other.
Let's welcome this behavior to delves! Woo-hoo, what could be more fun than fighting your way to the bottom of a delve only to be a cheap source of AP for a group of gankers--and having to respawn at a keep instead of using a gem or the delve shrine?
Plainly, I'm in a minority here. This is a very popular step--though I notice there hasn't been a lot of lauding the actual AP bonus so much as there's been bragging about all the murdering and farming that's going to happen. Classy.
You want to delve without being ganked? There are 17 zones and hundreds of delves *Dedicated* to this.
You want the excitement, the *expectation* of being ganked while delving? Come to Cyrodiil.
I don't see the problem here.
I'm going to put together the Sorcs-R-us group and turn the inside of the zone-in to the most popular delves into a minefield that would put the Korean Demilitarized Zone to shame! Bragging about the people you're going to murder is second only to the act of "Murdering" them itself.
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Islyn✭✭✭✭✭
✭In today's soon to be released patch notes.........
We're currently looking at a few more hours of downtime for today's maintenance. In the meantime, here's a fun new note to whet your appetite:
If you contribute to killing a boss in a Cyrodiil delve, you will now be granted a 60-minute AP buff which increases your AP gains by 20%.
Note: While this buff will be visible in areas outside of Cyrodiil, it will only be active while in Cyrodiil.
Zerg through Delves than on to keeps?
Already see an increasing number of players in the delves that were never there before. I even got ganked by AOE Barbecue and one of his friends in a Cropsford delve.
I like it! Moar pvp in delves!!! Most fun EVAR!Member of the Old Guard - Closed Betas 20131 -
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✭I love the increased possibility of OMG RED/YELLOW in delves - so exciting!Member of the Old Guard - Closed Betas 20130 -
technohic✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I'm going to wait and see. My first thought is this is terrible and more drawing people away from actual PvP. There will wind up being safe delvs for the most part; or if someone does manage to farm one, people will just move to another as I see it as having a very bad chance of exploiting mechanics such as loading in or out. Door camping will just mean people move on to another. Even if its a ganker in what becomes a "home delve;" you will get call outs of the enemy being in there and a zerg will come clean them out. I just see it blowing up to be bad rather than any good intended.
That said; who knows? I thought the siege change would be great, and to some points it is; but I think it went a little too far. Will know more on that one now that the damage is not getting buffed still. (I mean seriously; combat prayer did that back in early access. Should have saw this coming.) Maybe I will be wrong again and the delves will be a lot of fun and net me much loot along the way.1 -
Taresgos✭✭✭this buff affect emperorship ladder? or rank points?Grand Overlord (since february 2016)
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Alphashado✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭thelordoffelines wrote: »Is this 20% extra ap going to count towards leader boards or will it just be your pvp rank and the ap in your inventory?
Most likely, yes.
I wonder if this isn't a typo of some sort and should have been XP. You know there are players who will want that buff constantly as much as possible. Your last keep is under attack and half of the troops are out trying to kill a delve boss in the boonies. I'm thinking this isn't such a good idea.
This is exactly what I was thinking. X player tells group leader "Hey man, try to hold them off until I get back, I gotta go kill a boss". Or, "We can't take Roebeck yet dude, I don't have the AP buff yet". It just seems strange. Especially since an hour goes by very fast in Cyrodiil. Would be a little more practical if the buff lasted 2 or 3 hours.
Edited by Alphashado on March 30, 2015 8:34PM1 -
MasterSpatula✭✭✭✭✭
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You want to delve without being ganked? There are 17 zones and hundreds of delves *Dedicated* to this.
You want the excitement, the *expectation* of being ganked while delving? Come to Cyrodiil.
I don't see the problem here.
I've engaged in PVP in delves and towns before, and I enjoyed myself. The heightened sense of fear of doing PVE in a PVP zone is part of the experience and part of the fun. I would never deny that.
I really enjoy fighting over keeps and resources and scrolls, and I even enjoy random skirmishes that crop up between groups while traveling. But a good fight and a gank aren't the same thing. In fact, they're opposites. Good fights are fun for both sides. Gankers get enjoyment by harming someone else's enjoyment.
I get it as a legitimate tactic in sieges--keep the enemy from being able to get to the fight and all that. But I have never joined a gank squad and I never will, because I try not to be an ***. I'm not super fond of *** behavior spreading out across the game. I'm even less fond of ZOE encouraging it.
Further illustrating my point:
I'm going to put together the Sorcs-R-us group and turn the inside of the zone-in to the most popular delves into a minefield that would put the Korean Demilitarized Zone to shame! Bragging about the people you're going to murder is second only to the act of "Murdering" them itself.
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Ezareth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭MasterSpatula wrote: »
You want to delve without being ganked? There are 17 zones and hundreds of delves *Dedicated* to this.
You want the excitement, the *expectation* of being ganked while delving? Come to Cyrodiil.
I don't see the problem here.
I've engaged in PVP in delves and towns before, and I enjoyed myself. The heightened sense of fear of doing PVE in a PVP zone is part of the experience and part of the fun. I would never deny that.
I really enjoy fighting over keeps and resources and scrolls, and I even enjoy random skirmishes that crop up between groups while traveling. But a good fight and a gank aren't the same thing. In fact, they're opposites. Good fights are fun for both sides. Gankers get enjoyment by harming someone else's enjoyment.
I get it as a legitimate tactic in sieges--keep the enemy from being able to get to the fight and all that. But I have never joined a gank squad and I never will, because I try not to be an ***. I'm not super fond of *** behavior spreading out across the game. I'm even less fond of ZOE encouraging it.
Further illustrating my point:
I'm going to put together the Sorcs-R-us group and turn the inside of the zone-in to the most popular delves into a minefield that would put the Korean Demilitarized Zone to shame! Bragging about the people you're going to murder is second only to the act of "Murdering" them itself.
Ahh that was a joke regardless. I'm not a big fan of sharing my AP and I highly doubt the AP to be had in delves will be anywhere near what it would be doing more traditional pvp.
I've never joined a "Gank squad" myself either. In fact I've completely refused to enter stealth outside of going afk in Cyrodiil somewhere since patch 1.2 or so. I also make it a point to gank "gank squads" while solo if possible. Many of the groups of NBs in my video clips were gankers who had the tables turned on them.
Just saying, any way you look at it this is a good thing for Cyrodiil. If ZoS isn't going to make new PvP objectives and such for us, at least they're incentivising us to do it for them.
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Bouvin✭✭✭✭✭
✭So this is ZOS solution to Cyrodil lag. Just send everyone into delves...
Well played ZOS, well played....2 -
Cody✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭an increase in AP gain for killing cyrodiil delve bosses...
wonderful; now we will have PvPers camping the delves for the AP buffs and enemies from the other factions mass camping delves and making it impossible for others to do them.Edited by Cody on March 30, 2015 8:53PM2 -
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Ramtaku✭✭✭THIS ROCKS!!!
Did all the delves for achievements and shards, ran into one other player - EP NB, we fought jumping, rolling, LOS movement for five minutes.
Bunch of people spread though out all the delves in Cyrodil = potential PVP madness.
Putting on some Rob Zombie - see you in the depths, bring the panties you were when you get spanked ;-)1 -
Xsorus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Like this change a lot...
Anything to get more people out into the different areas the better.
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NukeAllTheThings✭✭✭✭✭I am looking forward to rage posts on the forum the first time a faction loses a scroll and blames it on people being in delves."it's important to state that our decision to go with subscriptions is not a referendum on online game revenue models. F2P, B2P, etc. are valid, proven business models - but subscription is the one that fits ESO the best, given our commitment to freedom of gameplay, quality and long-term content delivery. Plus, players will appreciate not having to worry about being "monetized" in the middle of playing the game, which is definitely a problem that is cropping up more and more in online gaming these days." - Matt Firor1 -
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✭✭and what is with the "you cant get out of a delve when the campaign is full" bug? This is a huge problem..
Maybe it's designed so you can trap enemy players in there and keep killing them with the boss AP buff?1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭prose08b14a_ESO wrote: »LonePirate wrote: »This is certainly an unexpected change for PVP. I wonder if the timers for bosses have been changed as some of them have very slow respawn rates.
A lot of them have 7-9 hour timers.
What? I must have been REALLY lucky when i did my cyrodiil cave delver in one day
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