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  • Sharee
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    Arato wrote: »
    Sharee wrote: »
    Brandalf wrote: »
    My V14 does all 6 crafts. I don't use any mules and I don't even have maxed bag or bank space. I don't get how some people have so much trouble, I can only conclude that people with such severe inventory management issues are super hoarders. Especially now that so many things stack up to 200 and the amount of provisioning ingredients has been been reduced so much.

    9 different types of ore
    9 different types of ingots
    9 different types of raw cloth
    9 different types of refined cloth
    9 different types of rough wood
    9 different types of sanded wood
    52 different types of enchanting glyphs
    18 different types of herbs for alchemy
    8 different types of solvents for alchemy
    12 different types of tempers for various crafts
    50 Provisioning Ingredients
    16 Trait Materials
    15 Style Materials

    This totals to 225 bank slots and that's if you only have one stack of each and absolutely nothing in your bank but crafting materials. Sorry, pal, but you're exaggerating profusely.

    Edit: and there's likely stuff I'm leaving out, this is just off the top of my head and counting some things up.

    And why the heck do you need to store 9 different types of ore?

    are all your characters VR 9+?

    If i need to craft something for a low level alt that i am currently playing, i just gather the materials as i play him, then when i have enough i send them to main for processing, craft the stuff the alt needs, and am done with it. No need to hoard anything.

    If i feel especially lazy or in a hurry, i just buy a stack of the material needed from a guild kiosk.
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    Brandalf wrote: »
    My V14 does all 6 crafts. I don't use any mules and I don't even have maxed bag or bank space. I don't get how some people have so much trouble, I can only conclude that people with such severe inventory management issues are super hoarders. Especially now that so many things stack up to 200 and the amount of provisioning ingredients has been been reduced so much.

    Freedom of choice.

    Not all playing styles are accommodated to the possibilities currently offered. Needless be better or worse person to be affected by these limitations, also becomes either better or worse person who manages to take advantage.

    Obviously, your style of play allows you to enjoy the content while you make efficient use of the abilities given. Others might not prove to them that way.

    Everybody has to do the same as you?

    Your style of play is a command that should be followed by everyone?

    No, everyone is free to choose their style of play and priorities. Having more storage space would not affect you, just is not what you would use. Not having more space still not affect you, but there are other users that maybe if affected.

    Those users who have reduced game time sessions and are exploring or doing quests can find very good to have space to go keeping what they find in their path.

    Players with a lot of free time, can indulge to interrupt their progress in other areas to stop at a workstation and advance in parallel with the professions.

    And just as this example there are many others.

    Increase the space harms no one, but can benefit a few.
  • Betahkiin
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    danovic wrote: »
    Whats needed is not more bank space but player housing that we can keep our crafting material and our own crafting stations in problem solved. No way we should be keeping our food in banks its just unrealistic.

    It would be an indirect way to have more space and I like it.
  • Betahkiin
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    Sharee wrote: »
    Brandalf wrote: »
    My V14 does all 6 crafts. I don't use any mules and I don't even have maxed bag or bank space. I don't get how some people have so much trouble, I can only conclude that people with such severe inventory management issues are super hoarders. Especially now that so many things stack up to 200 and the amount of provisioning ingredients has been been reduced so much.

    9 different types of ore
    9 different types of ingots
    9 different types of raw cloth
    9 different types of refined cloth
    9 different types of rough wood
    9 different types of sanded wood
    52 different types of enchanting glyphs
    18 different types of herbs for alchemy
    8 different types of solvents for alchemy
    12 different types of tempers for various crafts
    50 Provisioning Ingredients
    16 Trait Materials
    15 Style Materials

    This totals to 225 bank slots and that's if you only have one stack of each and absolutely nothing in your bank but crafting materials. Sorry, pal, but you're exaggerating profusely.

    Edit: and there's likely stuff I'm leaving out, this is just off the top of my head and counting some things up.

    And why the heck do you need to store 9 different types of ore?


    And why the heck do you no need to store this 9 different types of ore?
  • Arato
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    Sharee wrote: »
    Arato wrote: »
    Sharee wrote: »
    Brandalf wrote: »
    My V14 does all 6 crafts. I don't use any mules and I don't even have maxed bag or bank space. I don't get how some people have so much trouble, I can only conclude that people with such severe inventory management issues are super hoarders. Especially now that so many things stack up to 200 and the amount of provisioning ingredients has been been reduced so much.

    9 different types of ore
    9 different types of ingots
    9 different types of raw cloth
    9 different types of refined cloth
    9 different types of rough wood
    9 different types of sanded wood
    52 different types of enchanting glyphs
    18 different types of herbs for alchemy
    8 different types of solvents for alchemy
    12 different types of tempers for various crafts
    50 Provisioning Ingredients
    16 Trait Materials
    15 Style Materials

    This totals to 225 bank slots and that's if you only have one stack of each and absolutely nothing in your bank but crafting materials. Sorry, pal, but you're exaggerating profusely.

    Edit: and there's likely stuff I'm leaving out, this is just off the top of my head and counting some things up.

    And why the heck do you need to store 9 different types of ore?

    are all your characters VR 9+?

    If i need to craft something for a low level alt that i am currently playing, i just gather the materials as i play him, then when i have enough i send them to main for processing, craft the stuff the alt needs, and am done with it. No need to hoard anything.

    If i feel especially lazy or in a hurry, i just buy a stack of the material needed from a guild kiosk.

    A lot of times I can't FIND stacks of lower level mats on my guild kiosk (a lot of people in my guild refine raw mats for tempers and just VENDOR the refined mats), so that results in having to travel all over the place looking for mats, or gathering them, that takes a long time, as it can take over 100 ingots to make a set of armor and weapons for someone.
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    Betahkiin wrote: »
    Sharee wrote: »
    Brandalf wrote: »
    My V14 does all 6 crafts. I don't use any mules and I don't even have maxed bag or bank space. I don't get how some people have so much trouble, I can only conclude that people with such severe inventory management issues are super hoarders. Especially now that so many things stack up to 200 and the amount of provisioning ingredients has been been reduced so much.

    9 different types of ore
    9 different types of ingots
    9 different types of raw cloth
    9 different types of refined cloth
    9 different types of rough wood
    9 different types of sanded wood
    52 different types of enchanting glyphs
    18 different types of herbs for alchemy
    8 different types of solvents for alchemy
    12 different types of tempers for various crafts
    50 Provisioning Ingredients
    16 Trait Materials
    15 Style Materials

    This totals to 225 bank slots and that's if you only have one stack of each and absolutely nothing in your bank but crafting materials. Sorry, pal, but you're exaggerating profusely.

    Edit: and there's likely stuff I'm leaving out, this is just off the top of my head and counting some things up.

    And why the heck do you need to store 9 different types of ore?


    And why the heck do you no need to store this 9 different types of ore?

    Because if i need it, i can easily obtain it at that time. No need to keep a stockpile of it blocking my inventory just in case i need it four months from now.
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    Arato wrote: »
    Sharee wrote: »
    Arato wrote: »
    Sharee wrote: »
    Brandalf wrote: »
    My V14 does all 6 crafts. I don't use any mules and I don't even have maxed bag or bank space. I don't get how some people have so much trouble, I can only conclude that people with such severe inventory management issues are super hoarders. Especially now that so many things stack up to 200 and the amount of provisioning ingredients has been been reduced so much.

    9 different types of ore
    9 different types of ingots
    9 different types of raw cloth
    9 different types of refined cloth
    9 different types of rough wood
    9 different types of sanded wood
    52 different types of enchanting glyphs
    18 different types of herbs for alchemy
    8 different types of solvents for alchemy
    12 different types of tempers for various crafts
    50 Provisioning Ingredients
    16 Trait Materials
    15 Style Materials

    This totals to 225 bank slots and that's if you only have one stack of each and absolutely nothing in your bank but crafting materials. Sorry, pal, but you're exaggerating profusely.

    Edit: and there's likely stuff I'm leaving out, this is just off the top of my head and counting some things up.

    And why the heck do you need to store 9 different types of ore?

    are all your characters VR 9+?

    If i need to craft something for a low level alt that i am currently playing, i just gather the materials as i play him, then when i have enough i send them to main for processing, craft the stuff the alt needs, and am done with it. No need to hoard anything.

    If i feel especially lazy or in a hurry, i just buy a stack of the material needed from a guild kiosk.

    A lot of times I can't FIND stacks of lower level mats on my guild kiosk (a lot of people in my guild refine raw mats for tempers and just VENDOR the refined mats).

    So use a different guild's kiosk? There's at least a hundred of them all over tamriel.

    Edited by Sharee on March 29, 2015 9:10PM
  • Arato
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    Sharee wrote: »
    Arato wrote: »
    Sharee wrote: »
    Arato wrote: »
    Sharee wrote: »
    Brandalf wrote: »
    My V14 does all 6 crafts. I don't use any mules and I don't even have maxed bag or bank space. I don't get how some people have so much trouble, I can only conclude that people with such severe inventory management issues are super hoarders. Especially now that so many things stack up to 200 and the amount of provisioning ingredients has been been reduced so much.

    9 different types of ore
    9 different types of ingots
    9 different types of raw cloth
    9 different types of refined cloth
    9 different types of rough wood
    9 different types of sanded wood
    52 different types of enchanting glyphs
    18 different types of herbs for alchemy
    8 different types of solvents for alchemy
    12 different types of tempers for various crafts
    50 Provisioning Ingredients
    16 Trait Materials
    15 Style Materials

    This totals to 225 bank slots and that's if you only have one stack of each and absolutely nothing in your bank but crafting materials. Sorry, pal, but you're exaggerating profusely.

    Edit: and there's likely stuff I'm leaving out, this is just off the top of my head and counting some things up.

    And why the heck do you need to store 9 different types of ore?

    are all your characters VR 9+?

    If i need to craft something for a low level alt that i am currently playing, i just gather the materials as i play him, then when i have enough i send them to main for processing, craft the stuff the alt needs, and am done with it. No need to hoard anything.

    If i feel especially lazy or in a hurry, i just buy a stack of the material needed from a guild kiosk.

    A lot of times I can't FIND stacks of lower level mats on my guild kiosk (a lot of people in my guild refine raw mats for tempers and just VENDOR the refined mats).

    So use a different guild's kiosk? There's at least a hundred of them all over tamriel.

    Like we both just said all over tamriel

    That's a lot of running around to find what you need at a reasonable price.
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    [nevermind]
    Edited by Sharee on March 29, 2015 9:14PM
  • Sinthrax
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    Brandalf wrote: »
    My V14 does all 6 crafts. I don't use any mules and I don't even have maxed bag or bank space. I don't get how some people have so much trouble, I can only conclude that people with such severe inventory management issues are super hoarders. Especially now that so many things stack up to 200 and the amount of provisioning ingredients has been been reduced so much.

    9 different types of ore
    9 different types of ingots
    9 different types of raw cloth
    9 different types of refined cloth
    9 different types of rough wood
    9 different types of sanded wood
    52 different types of enchanting glyphs
    18 different types of herbs for alchemy
    8 different types of solvents for alchemy
    12 different types of tempers for various crafts
    50 Provisioning Ingredients
    16 Trait Materials
    15 Style Materials

    This totals to 225 bank slots and that's if you only have one stack of each and absolutely nothing in your bank but crafting materials. Sorry, pal, but you're exaggerating profusely.

    Edit: and there's likely stuff I'm leaving out, this is just off the top of my head and counting some things up.

    So the fact that you want to collect every crafting item in the game says more about you than it does the game. What are you a pack rat? lol You don't need all that crap. I can sit here and explain how I do it to make things easier but whats the point? People wont listen and demand what they want regardless of what others want because they are always right.

    Same crap is happening with the crown store. Just give it time...bank and bag space will be there.
    Edited by Sinthrax on March 29, 2015 9:49PM
  • gwillard_ESO
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    Inventory management, while improved with the changes to provisioning in 1.6, borders on tedium. I don't have a lot of time to play during the week, so many days I didn't even log in knowing that at the end of my play time or the beginning of the next day's play would involve at least 1/2 hour of moving things between player/bank/mule. The mule "hokey-pokey" as some poster put it a while ago.

    It's normal for this type of game to have time and money sinks but ESO has designed those too much around the inventory system.

    Yes, my inventory is much better now but that is more a result of spending a boatload of gold to increase bank space. It's also better as a result of completing all the equipment researching I need so I don't need to hold pieces of equipment I need for research.

    And...without addons like Advanced Filters inventory management would be twice as painful.
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    I still don't see how 1.6 improved provisioning materials... from 19 mats to 50..
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    It would be nice to have a crafting tab in our bank, so that anything which is used in our professions automatically goes there. Right now I have three stacks of iron & co. and more I just don't pick up. Not having an AH or public trade post while the bank space is limited forces me to do this.

    I disagree with the user who said that he must have every possible potion, buff food or glyph ready in his bank. Crafting it when needed seems more logical to me, no offence ;) However, if someone is in a trade guild then he probably stores those goods for selling, so its understandable that he prefers to have them ready for his customers.
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    Ourorboros wrote: »
    Brandalf wrote: »
    My V14 does all 6 crafts. I don't use any mules and I don't even have maxed bag or bank space. I don't get how some people have so much trouble, I can only conclude that people with such severe inventory management issues are super hoarders. Especially now that so many things stack up to 200 and the amount of provisioning ingredients has been been reduced so much.
    pecheckler wrote: »
    You are lying.
    pecheckler, hope that lying comment was meant as a joke. Otherwise, it's inappropriate. I also have one character maxed in all crafts, and not maxed in bank space. Now I do use a few mules, but that's the hoarder side of me. I could certainly play without them, just by making some choices about what I need. @Brandalf, hat's off. I know how hard it is to do that, but I also know it can be done.
    Sharee wrote: »

    And why the heck do you need to store 9 different types of ore?



    I believe the issue here is that many people stop storing low level mats and stuff as their character progresses to higher levels, while other players have characters at various levels and need to continue stocking the lower level mats that their VR 'toons have outgrown.

    It's important to keep that in mind, at times, as some people don't take that into account. And it can really add to the 'needed' storage.

    I have a VR, 2 level 42's, 3 'toons between 14 and 20, and 2 mules that are still in single digits.

    I think most can agree with Bethkiin when s/he said:

    ".... The other option would be not collect the materials I find in my way, which would be a waste of time because in the future I should reinvest the same amount of time played so far, to have the same amount of lost materials in double time."
    Edited by twev on March 29, 2015 9:53PM
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    Brandalf wrote: »
    My V14 does all 6 crafts. I don't use any mules and I don't even have maxed bag or bank space. I don't get how some people have so much trouble, I can only conclude that people with such severe inventory management issues are super hoarders. Especially now that so many things stack up to 200 and the amount of provisioning ingredients has been been reduced so much.

    9 different types of ore
    9 different types of ingots
    9 different types of raw cloth
    9 different types of refined cloth
    9 different types of rough wood
    9 different types of sanded wood
    52 different types of enchanting glyphs
    18 different types of herbs for alchemy
    8 different types of solvents for alchemy
    12 different types of tempers for various crafts
    50 Provisioning Ingredients
    16 Trait Materials
    15 Style Materials

    This totals to 225 bank slots and that's if you only have one stack of each and absolutely nothing in your bank but crafting materials. Sorry, pal, but you're exaggerating profusely.

    Edit: and there's likely stuff I'm leaving out, this is just off the top of my head and counting some things up.

    @Brandalf just got rekt
    I'm outta here
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    Sharee wrote: »
    Brandalf wrote: »
    My V14 does all 6 crafts. I don't use any mules and I don't even have maxed bag or bank space. I don't get how some people have so much trouble, I can only conclude that people with such severe inventory management issues are super hoarders. Especially now that so many things stack up to 200 and the amount of provisioning ingredients has been been reduced so much.

    9 different types of ore
    9 different types of ingots
    9 different types of raw cloth
    9 different types of refined cloth
    9 different types of rough wood
    9 different types of sanded wood
    52 different types of enchanting glyphs
    18 different types of herbs for alchemy
    8 different types of solvents for alchemy
    12 different types of tempers for various crafts
    50 Provisioning Ingredients
    16 Trait Materials
    15 Style Materials

    This totals to 225 bank slots and that's if you only have one stack of each and absolutely nothing in your bank but crafting materials. Sorry, pal, but you're exaggerating profusely.

    Edit: and there's likely stuff I'm leaving out, this is just off the top of my head and counting some things up.

    And why the heck do you need to store 9 different types of ore?

    Because he plays the game differently than you?

    Because he doesn't like to be tied down by arbitrary limits the hurt his play style?

    The list could go on and on.

    And I see that many others have responded to your rather rude post after I read yours. Please review them for more details.
    Edited by Romo on March 29, 2015 9:51PM
  • Sinthrax
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    Romo wrote: »
    Sharee wrote: »
    Brandalf wrote: »
    My V14 does all 6 crafts. I don't use any mules and I don't even have maxed bag or bank space. I don't get how some people have so much trouble, I can only conclude that people with such severe inventory management issues are super hoarders. Especially now that so many things stack up to 200 and the amount of provisioning ingredients has been been reduced so much.

    9 different types of ore
    9 different types of ingots
    9 different types of raw cloth
    9 different types of refined cloth
    9 different types of rough wood
    9 different types of sanded wood
    52 different types of enchanting glyphs
    18 different types of herbs for alchemy
    8 different types of solvents for alchemy
    12 different types of tempers for various crafts
    50 Provisioning Ingredients
    16 Trait Materials
    15 Style Materials

    This totals to 225 bank slots and that's if you only have one stack of each and absolutely nothing in your bank but crafting materials. Sorry, pal, but you're exaggerating profusely.

    Edit: and there's likely stuff I'm leaving out, this is just off the top of my head and counting some things up.

    And why the heck do you need to store 9 different types of ore?

    Because he plays the game differently than you?

    Because he doesn't like to be tied down by arbitrary limits the hurt his play style?

    The list could go on and on.


    And the list could go on an on about why you don't need it. But whats the point? Your mind is made up.

    People need to understand one game can't cater to EVERYONE. Have you read the forums. If they tried to satisfy all those people they would never sleep and go bankrupt.

    That is why some of the newer MMO are trying to cater to ONE crowd. Camelot Unchained is a prime example.

    I am sure the intent was exactly what this conversation is about. They never intended on you to be able to keep a stack of everything. I don't get it and yes...my mind is made up that we don't need it.

    I am so sick of the freedom of choice and play style discussion. We are not discussing human rights here. Then it would matter. This is a game owned by a company that made it a certain way. All system choices are up to them. The only one you have is to play or not.
    Edited by Sinthrax on March 29, 2015 10:02PM
  • Romo
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    Sinthrax wrote: »
    Romo wrote: »
    Sharee wrote: »
    Brandalf wrote: »
    My V14 does all 6 crafts. I don't use any mules and I don't even have maxed bag or bank space. I don't get how some people have so much trouble, I can only conclude that people with such severe inventory management issues are super hoarders. Especially now that so many things stack up to 200 and the amount of provisioning ingredients has been been reduced so much.

    9 different types of ore
    9 different types of ingots
    9 different types of raw cloth
    9 different types of refined cloth
    9 different types of rough wood
    9 different types of sanded wood
    52 different types of enchanting glyphs
    18 different types of herbs for alchemy
    8 different types of solvents for alchemy
    12 different types of tempers for various crafts
    50 Provisioning Ingredients
    16 Trait Materials
    15 Style Materials

    This totals to 225 bank slots and that's if you only have one stack of each and absolutely nothing in your bank but crafting materials. Sorry, pal, but you're exaggerating profusely.

    Edit: and there's likely stuff I'm leaving out, this is just off the top of my head and counting some things up.

    And why the heck do you need to store 9 different types of ore?

    Because he plays the game differently than you?

    Because he doesn't like to be tied down by arbitrary limits the hurt his play style?

    The list could go on and on.


    And the list could go on an on about why you don't need it. But whats the point? Your mind is made up.

    People need to understand one game can't cater to EVERYONE. Have your the forums. If they tried to satisfy all those people they would never sleep and go bankrupt.

    That is why some of the newer MMO are trying to cater to ONE crowd. Camelot Unchained is a prime example.

    Sigh, what's the point indeed. All you want is everyone to play like you. Interesting choice of "realities" you have.

    And the dev or head honcho who started the "hoarder" mantra, that many like you basically quote, should be taken out behind the wood shed. He has apparently finally seen the light and started giving out more bag space( indirectly so he can deny it, but still 25-30% more with the B2P changes).
  • skeletorz_ESO
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    wraith808 wrote: »
    pecheckler wrote: »
    Brandalf wrote: »
    My V14 does all 6 crafts. I don't use any mules and I don't even have maxed bag or bank space. I don't get how some people have so much trouble, I can only conclude that people with such severe inventory management issues are super hoarders. Especially now that so many things stack up to 200 and the amount of provisioning ingredients has been been reduced so much.

    You are lying.

    I do the same, so it is possible -and accusing him of lying just because he has a different and workable system is a bit rude.

    So you and brandalf store in your unmaxed banks over 225 stacks of crafting items? The bank only goes to 240. Either you're using mules or you're lying. The numbers don't add up.
    “If you would be a real seeker after truth, it is necessary that at least once in your life you doubt, as far as possible, all things.” -- René Descartes
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    Just stop being a pack rat, problem solved.
    Half of the stuff you don't use or need.
  • skeletorz_ESO
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    Sharee wrote: »
    Brandalf wrote: »
    My V14 does all 6 crafts. I don't use any mules and I don't even have maxed bag or bank space. I don't get how some people have so much trouble, I can only conclude that people with such severe inventory management issues are super hoarders. Especially now that so many things stack up to 200 and the amount of provisioning ingredients has been been reduced so much.

    9 different types of ore
    9 different types of ingots
    9 different types of raw cloth
    9 different types of refined cloth
    9 different types of rough wood
    9 different types of sanded wood
    52 different types of enchanting glyphs
    18 different types of herbs for alchemy
    8 different types of solvents for alchemy
    12 different types of tempers for various crafts
    50 Provisioning Ingredients
    16 Trait Materials
    15 Style Materials

    This totals to 225 bank slots and that's if you only have one stack of each and absolutely nothing in your bank but crafting materials. Sorry, pal, but you're exaggerating profusely.

    Edit: and there's likely stuff I'm leaving out, this is just off the top of my head and counting some things up.

    And why the heck do you need to store 9 different types of ore?

    So that there are mats on hand to craft and sell with...? What do you think the point of all this is? lol
    Edited by skeletorz_ESO on March 29, 2015 10:03PM
    “If you would be a real seeker after truth, it is necessary that at least once in your life you doubt, as far as possible, all things.” -- René Descartes
  • Sinthrax
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    Romo wrote: »
    Sinthrax wrote: »
    Romo wrote: »
    Sharee wrote: »
    Brandalf wrote: »
    My V14 does all 6 crafts. I don't use any mules and I don't even have maxed bag or bank space. I don't get how some people have so much trouble, I can only conclude that people with such severe inventory management issues are super hoarders. Especially now that so many things stack up to 200 and the amount of provisioning ingredients has been been reduced so much.

    9 different types of ore
    9 different types of ingots
    9 different types of raw cloth
    9 different types of refined cloth
    9 different types of rough wood
    9 different types of sanded wood
    52 different types of enchanting glyphs
    18 different types of herbs for alchemy
    8 different types of solvents for alchemy
    12 different types of tempers for various crafts
    50 Provisioning Ingredients
    16 Trait Materials
    15 Style Materials

    This totals to 225 bank slots and that's if you only have one stack of each and absolutely nothing in your bank but crafting materials. Sorry, pal, but you're exaggerating profusely.

    Edit: and there's likely stuff I'm leaving out, this is just off the top of my head and counting some things up.

    And why the heck do you need to store 9 different types of ore?

    Because he plays the game differently than you?

    Because he doesn't like to be tied down by arbitrary limits the hurt his play style?

    The list could go on and on.


    And the list could go on an on about why you don't need it. But whats the point? Your mind is made up.

    People need to understand one game can't cater to EVERYONE. Have your the forums. If they tried to satisfy all those people they would never sleep and go bankrupt.

    That is why some of the newer MMO are trying to cater to ONE crowd. Camelot Unchained is a prime example.

    Sigh, what's the point indeed. All you want is everyone to play like you. Interesting choice of "realities" you have.

    And the dev or head honcho who started the "hoarder" mantra, that many like you basically quote, should be taken out behind the wood shed. He has apparently finally seen the light and started giving out more bag space( indirectly so he can deny it, but still 25-30% more with the B2P changes).

    There are TONS of games and MMOs out there where you CAN'T bank one of EVERY crafting item. It isn't a ESO thing, so get over it. Now, I am sure there are games out there that allow max storage but the last thing I would do is go there and petition for them to take bag space away because I don't agree with being able to horde everything. I wouldn't do it..period. Is it really that hard to make choices for people.

    Oh and I could care less if you play like me. But I would expect a person that play a game to play it the way it is designed. It has NOTHING to do with me. If they add bag space I will play it that way..right now you dont have it so play it that way and make choices.


    Edited by Sinthrax on March 29, 2015 10:09PM
  • twev
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    Sinthrax wrote: »
    So the fact that you want to collect every crafting item in the game says more about you than it does the game. What are you a pack rat? lol You don't need all that crap. I can sit here and explain how I do it to make things easier but whats the point? People wont listen and demand what they want regardless of what others want because they are always right.

    Same crap is happening with the crown store. Just give it time...bank and bag space will be there.

    I make stuff for people of varying level all the time.
    Often, it can be for people who need something, without having the materials at hand to send to me for use in the items.
    I stock stuff specifically for that.

    It's a loser for me materials-wise, as I don't generally charge for it, but I do get the XP for crafting, and I get the warm-fuzzy feeling of helping out.

    That doesn't make me an indiscriminate pack-rat.

    I prefer to think of myself as an all-around swell guy..... :)
    The problem with society these days is that no one drinks from the skulls of their enemies anymore.
  • Sinthrax
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    twev wrote: »
    Sinthrax wrote: »
    So the fact that you want to collect every crafting item in the game says more about you than it does the game. What are you a pack rat? lol You don't need all that crap. I can sit here and explain how I do it to make things easier but whats the point? People wont listen and demand what they want regardless of what others want because they are always right.

    Same crap is happening with the crown store. Just give it time...bank and bag space will be there.

    I make stuff for people of varying level all the time.
    Often, it can be for people who need something, without having the materials at hand to send to me for use in the items.
    I stock stuff specifically for that.

    It's a loser for me materials-wise, as I don't generally charge for it, but I do get the XP for crafting, and I get the warm-fuzzy feeling of helping out.

    That doesn't make me an indiscriminate pack-rat.

    I prefer to think of myself as an all-around swell guy..... :)


    I don't know you but you sound like an all-around swell guy. : ) But you are still a pack-rat. First step to an addiction is admitting to it.

  • Natjur
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    Sure trying to keep a stack of EVERY resource will kill your space, but why do you even try? I keep a few stacks of the top tier resources and the parts I need to make end game food/drink and dump the rest on the market, and if I ever have to make a lower level item, I buy it from the market.

    But there are a few options for extra space

    240 bank space
    170 inventory space (110 + 60 horse) (up to 8 toons)
    150 items 'stored' on guild stores (30 items per guild for sale at prices so they do not sell but just stored)
    +5 items per mail.
    Plus a 500 items if you have a few mates to help you with your own guild bank

  • Arato
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    Just stop being a pack rat, problem solved.
    Half of the stuff you don't use or need.

    But i do use most that stuff on a regular basis, for making gear for alts that are leveling up, for writs as well.
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    I do not have time to read this entire thread. I will say that I dropped my subscription to the game before Tamriel Unlimited for two primary reasons:
    • inventory management
    • lack of a true auction house
    Both of these things cost me valuable play time. I spend a great deal of time logging into mules to move stuff around. I also spend too much time traveling around the map checking guild traders to find items. I could not justify spending $15 for a sub when I waste so much time on logistics and hopping around the map trying to find items to buy. It isn't fun; it's a chore.
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    It's a tradition for ES games to have bad inventory management.


    An AH is not needed. What is needed is a UI overhual of guild trading. The current UI is incredibly bad.
  • pecheckler
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    Kalfis wrote: »
    It's a tradition for ES games to have bad inventory management.


    An AH is not needed. What is needed is a UI overhual of guild trading. The current UI is incredibly bad.

    The tradition of ES games is to immediately download a mod to increase inventory space by 1000%.
    End the tedious inventory management game.
  • Betahkiin
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    pecheckler wrote: »
    Kalfis wrote: »
    It's a tradition for ES games to have bad inventory management.


    An AH is not needed. What is needed is a UI overhual of guild trading. The current UI is incredibly bad.

    The tradition of ES games is to immediately download a mod to increase inventory space by 1000%.

    I have an Inventory-Born in Skyrim.

    I love it! <3

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