Please raise population caps back to what they used to be

Storm1732 · March 2015

I know the population caps were reduced to help with the lag. There is still horrible lag and I think raising the pop caps back to what they used to be will just help more players get on the same campaign. Waiting in 100+ queues on a daily basis is no fun and people are not gonna home another campaign just so their queue is less. This was evident last night when the EP queue was over 200. Just raise the pop caps back to what they used to be and let the lag happen while you try to figure out how to cull the meteors and standards that are lagging out the server.

TheLaw · March 2015

Your logic is flawed. Popular campaigns are nearly unplayable at times. Unless lag is reduced at the current cap, raising it would be irresponsible and pointless.

Tankqull · March 2015

but the low pop on the other hand forces alot of players to the hot spots to find any action at all...

Tintinabula · March 2015

I believe in another thread Brian says they weren't reduced.

technohic · March 2015

I don't have a problem with queues. Maybe you are in the wrong faction.

Tintinabula · March 2015

I spend que leveling up my legerdemain.

Poxheart · March 2015

What's weird is that even when Thorn is locked, as DC you get a pop immediately. But with Chill a lock means there's an actual wait.

Tintinabula · March 2015

sometimes 157 que is 10 minutes..while 60 que is 30 mins. It just depends on time of day and ppl logging out or crashing.

RivenEsq · March 2015

Maybe the EP bandwagon wasn't such a good idea now was it?

I seldom have any queue longer than 5 minutes on any AD campaign.

The lag is horrendous. Increasing caps when campaigns aren't full and the lag isn't fixed would be stupid and potentially ruin more campaigns than it helps. Sorry you picked the "popular" faction. Queues are something the stacked (highest pop) faction has to deal with. While you have queues, other factions don't and you just need to accept things how they are or roll on a different faction. Think Henge of Denravi from GW2 launch with literal 17 hour queues.

Tintinabula · March 2015

EP Bandwagon?..Ive always been EP..I was EP when being EP wasn't cool...I was EP when AD was a yellow sea of ppl coming for us. I dont mind the ques

azoriangaming · March 2015

Don't raise caps to much lag as in places as it is now raising the caps would just make it worse, just open up new campaigns

Galalin · March 2015

AD is now most populated since b2p... check all the campaigns at almoat any given time....

RivenVII wrote: »

Maybe the EP bandwagon wasn't such a good idea now was it?

I seldom have any queue longer than 5 minutes on any AD campaign.

The lag is horrendous. Increasing caps when campaigns aren't full and the lag isn't fixed would be stupid and potentially ruin more campaigns than it helps. Sorry you picked the "popular" faction. Queues are something the stacked (highest pop) faction has to deal with. While you have queues, other factions don't and you just need to accept things how they are or roll on a different faction. Think Henge of Denravi from GW2 launch with literal 17 hour queues.

k1llorbek1lled · March 2015

RivenVII wrote: »

Maybe the EP bandwagon wasn't such a good idea now was it?

I seldom have any queue longer than 5 minutes on any AD campaign.

The lag is horrendous. Increasing caps when campaigns aren't full and the lag isn't fixed would be stupid and potentially ruin more campaigns than it helps. Sorry you picked the "popular" faction. Queues are something the stacked (highest pop) faction has to deal with. While you have queues, other factions don't and you just need to accept things how they are or roll on a different faction. Think Henge of Denravi from GW2 launch with literal 17 hour queues.

You're AD and from Auriel's Bow, shut up about the popular faction. You were the popular faction for what 9 months of the game? People on EP don't need to reroll because AD/DC noobs flocked to EP when they started winning.

Anyway, play on Chill or Had while in Q. It's what I do and it makes it seem like it goes way faster when your not thinking about it.

Storm1732 · March 2015

I've been EP since day 1, have undaunted maxed, and am almost alliance war rank 10. I would not ever think of changing factions just to make my queue better. At some point shortly before 1.6 the pop caps were reduced to help with the lag.

What I'm saying is that the lag isn't any better than what it was before they reduced the pop caps. The same issues are still causing lag and people are still bunching up and zerging while spamming standards and meteor. Bringing the pop caps back to what they were will just help with excessive queues.

PainfulFAFA · March 2015

Storm1732 wrote: »

I know the population caps were reduced to help with the lag. There is still horrible lag and I think raising the pop caps back to what they used to be will just help more players get on the same campaign. Waiting in 100+ queues on a daily basis is no fun and people are not gonna home another campaign just so their queue is less. This was evident last night when the EP queue was over 200. Just raise the pop caps back to what they used to be and let the lag happen while you try to figure out how to cull the meteors and standards that are lagging out the server.

LOL raise the pop caps so 200 more Red zerg the entire map? Not on your life buddy.

PainfulFAFA · March 2015

Galalin wrote: »

AD is now most populated since b2p... check all the campaigns at almoat any given time....

RivenVII wrote: »

Maybe the EP bandwagon wasn't such a good idea now was it?

I seldom have any queue longer than 5 minutes on any AD campaign.

The lag is horrendous. Increasing caps when campaigns aren't full and the lag isn't fixed would be stupid and potentially ruin more campaigns than it helps. Sorry you picked the "popular" faction. Queues are something the stacked (highest pop) faction has to deal with. While you have queues, other factions don't and you just need to accept things how they are or roll on a different faction. Think Henge of Denravi from GW2 launch with literal 17 hour queues.

AD the most populated? LOL
Somebody forgot to take their meds.
Your faction is the one with 100+ queues what does that tell you?

RedTalon · March 2015

Poxheart wrote: »

What's weird is that even when Thorn is locked, as DC you get a pop immediately. But with Chill a lock means there's an actual wait.

The Lock symbol shows at 90 percent has a warning that it may be best to go elsewhere, and yeah chill is the only campaign that sometimes seems to have a solid DC lock where that symbol means something.

Roechacca · March 2015

Tintinabula wrote: »

EP Bandwagon?..Ive always been EP..I was EP when being EP wasn't cool...I was EP when AD was a yellow sea of ppl coming for us. I dont mind the ques

What are you talking about ? Being EP was never cool .

Alomar · March 2015

I had 300+ ques as AD in Auriel's Bow, remember when AD would outnumber the enemy 3to1 most of the day and camp them at their gates, yeah it happened. Also had 150+ ques as AD in Wabbajack after that, so there's nothing about long ques that are "only EP".

Pop cap. has been reduced twice, officially, for who-ever was asking. We now play with a fraction of the players in one campaign as we did at launch and the lag is easily 20-30x worse, progress eh?

vortexman11 · March 2015

Storm1732 wrote: »

I know the population caps were reduced to help with the lag. There is still horrible lag and I think raising the pop caps back to what they used to be will just help more players get on the same campaign. Waiting in 100+ queues on a daily basis is no fun and people are not gonna home another campaign just so their queue is less. This was evident last night when the EP queue was over 200. Just raise the pop caps back to what they used to be and let the lag happen while you try to figure out how to cull the meteors and standards that are lagging out the server.

Solution: Stop playing on Thornblade.

vortexman11 · March 2015

PainfulFAFA wrote: »

Galalin wrote: »

AD is now most populated since b2p... check all the campaigns at almoat any given time....

RivenVII wrote: »

Maybe the EP bandwagon wasn't such a good idea now was it?

I seldom have any queue longer than 5 minutes on any AD campaign.

The lag is horrendous. Increasing caps when campaigns aren't full and the lag isn't fixed would be stupid and potentially ruin more campaigns than it helps. Sorry you picked the "popular" faction. Queues are something the stacked (highest pop) faction has to deal with. While you have queues, other factions don't and you just need to accept things how they are or roll on a different faction. Think Henge of Denravi from GW2 launch with literal 17 hour queues.

AD the most populated? LOL
Somebody forgot to take their meds.
Your faction is the one with 100+ queues what does that tell you?

At times AD is locked on Thornblade, Azuras Star, Haderus, Chillrend, and Blackwater Blade.....what does that tell you?

Vis · March 2015

vortexman11 wrote: »

PainfulFAFA wrote: »

Galalin wrote: »

AD is now most populated since b2p... check all the campaigns at almoat any given time....

RivenVII wrote: »

Maybe the EP bandwagon wasn't such a good idea now was it?

I seldom have any queue longer than 5 minutes on any AD campaign.

The lag is horrendous. Increasing caps when campaigns aren't full and the lag isn't fixed would be stupid and potentially ruin more campaigns than it helps. Sorry you picked the "popular" faction. Queues are something the stacked (highest pop) faction has to deal with. While you have queues, other factions don't and you just need to accept things how they are or roll on a different faction. Think Henge of Denravi from GW2 launch with literal 17 hour queues.

AD the most populated? LOL
Somebody forgot to take their meds.
Your faction is the one with 100+ queues what does that tell you?

At times AD is locked on Thornblade, Azuras Star, Haderus, Chillrend, and Blackwater Blade.....what does that tell you?

That you don't know the definition of population lock?

Roechacca · March 2015

The solution is ZOS needs to step up their game or suffer another exodus . The lag is absolutely EVERYWHERE on the weekends . One of my oldest friends and newest guildy is a IT specialist and given all the best hardware by his corporation . He was told by customer service to check his modem . He almost lost his cool with ZOS on the phone . He knew more then their help center specialists and we all came to the conclusion , they don't have answers to their server problems so their deflecting back on their customers . Now granted , some people are running out dates stuff but everyone I play with has brand new everything and we still feel the lag every where on the weekends .

So these , maybe polite "solutions" , from players to just swap some where else , I'm just gonna say thanks for caring but it makes zero difference on the weekends . The pop cap on TB is the same as all the others and is SUPPOSE to be set to handle that exact number of players .

Now if your telling people to swap because those certain groups don't crash pvp on the servers they don't play on then Ya , we are all aware of the choices . Still ... This is Zennimax's responsibility to find the solution .

technohic · March 2015

Roechacca wrote: »

The solution is ZOS needs to step up their game or suffer another exodus . The lag is absolutely EVERYWHERE on the weekends . One of my oldest friends and newest guildy is a IT specialist and given all the best hardware by his corporation . He was told by customer service to check his modem . He almost lost his cool with ZOS on the phone . He knew more then their help center specialists and we all came to the conclusion , they don't have answers to their server problems so their deflecting back on their customers . Now granted , some people are running out dates stuff but everyone I play with has brand new everything and we still feel the lag every where on the weekends .

So these , maybe polite "solutions" , from players to just swap some where else , I'm just gonna say thanks for caring but it makes zero difference on the weekends . The pop cap on TB is the same as all the others and is SUPPOSE to be set to handle that exact number of players .

Now if your telling people to swap because those certain groups don't crash pvp on the servers they don't play on then Ya , we are all aware of the choices . Still ... This is Zennimax's responsibility to find the solution .

C'mon now. Being an IT specialist; surely he should know that the people who answer the phone will not exactly be engineers other than maybe in name for a PR type of thing. Some poor *** (or bastardette?) sitting there probably making little over minimum wage and all he can do is tell people what his tickets logs say are the marching orders. Hopefully your buddy didn't go overboard.

Roechacca · March 2015

technohic wrote: »

Roechacca wrote: »

The solution is ZOS needs to step up their game or suffer another exodus . The lag is absolutely EVERYWHERE on the weekends . One of my oldest friends and newest guildy is a IT specialist and given all the best hardware by his corporation . He was told by customer service to check his modem . He almost lost his cool with ZOS on the phone . He knew more then their help center specialists and we all came to the conclusion , they don't have answers to their server problems so their deflecting back on their customers . Now granted , some people are running out dates stuff but everyone I play with has brand new everything and we still feel the lag every where on the weekends .

So these , maybe polite "solutions" , from players to just swap some where else , I'm just gonna say thanks for caring but it makes zero difference on the weekends . The pop cap on TB is the same as all the others and is SUPPOSE to be set to handle that exact number of players .

Now if your telling people to swap because those certain groups don't crash pvp on the servers they don't play on then Ya , we are all aware of the choices . Still ... This is Zennimax's responsibility to find the solution .

C'mon now. Being an IT specialist; surely he should know that the people who answer the phone will not exactly be engineers other than maybe in name for a PR type of thing. Some poor *** (or bastardette?) sitting there probably making little over minimum wage and all he can do is tell people what his tickets logs say are the marching orders. Hopefully your buddy didn't go overboard.

He didn't . I said "almost" . But the facts remain . Their server stabity is fluctuating horribly during peek hours .

vortexman11 · March 2015

Vis wrote: »

vortexman11 wrote: »

PainfulFAFA wrote: »

Galalin wrote: »

AD is now most populated since b2p... check all the campaigns at almoat any given time....

RivenVII wrote: »

Maybe the EP bandwagon wasn't such a good idea now was it?

I seldom have any queue longer than 5 minutes on any AD campaign.

The lag is horrendous. Increasing caps when campaigns aren't full and the lag isn't fixed would be stupid and potentially ruin more campaigns than it helps. Sorry you picked the "popular" faction. Queues are something the stacked (highest pop) faction has to deal with. While you have queues, other factions don't and you just need to accept things how they are or roll on a different faction. Think Henge of Denravi from GW2 launch with literal 17 hour queues.

AD the most populated? LOL
Somebody forgot to take their meds.
Your faction is the one with 100+ queues what does that tell you?

At times AD is locked on Thornblade, Azuras Star, Haderus, Chillrend, and Blackwater Blade.....what does that tell you?

That you don't know the definition of population lock?

What is the definition of population lock my good sir?

Just because you don't have queues of over 100 doesn't mean you're not locked, to me all it means is that AD does the smart thing and spreads out between campaigns, EP is overpopulated on Thornblade yes, but Im simply defending Galalins statement. Overall AD has almost always been the most populated.

vortexman11 · March 2015

Roechacca wrote: »

The solution is ZOS needs to step up their game or suffer another exodus . The lag is absolutely EVERYWHERE on the weekends . One of my oldest friends and newest guildy is a IT specialist and given all the best hardware by his corporation . He was told by customer service to check his modem . He almost lost his cool with ZOS on the phone . He knew more then their help center specialists and we all came to the conclusion , they don't have answers to their server problems so their deflecting back on their customers . Now granted , some people are running out dates stuff but everyone I play with has brand new everything and we still feel the lag every where on the weekends .

So these , maybe polite "solutions" , from players to just swap some where else , I'm just gonna say thanks for caring but it makes zero difference on the weekends . The pop cap on TB is the same as all the others and is SUPPOSE to be set to handle that exact number of players .

Now if your telling people to swap because those certain groups don't crash pvp on the servers they don't play on then Ya , we are all aware of the choices . Still ... This is Zennimax's responsibility to find the solution .

I agree with everything you just said, but the original poster wanted to escape queues not lag, he even said this himself, that's why I provided the solution of not playing on Thornblade.