I have been trying to figure this one out myself. Creating a copy of the game folder and placing it on another HDD doesn't work. Nor does changing the name of the .EXE.

Botting made easy... nice. Really its not like you need a second as their is little automation that can be applied or needed and the way combat is handled it would be over before you could alt-tab back to your main.

Not like Eve or Perp where combat is protracted and/or gridning resources is stagnant with just shucking your cargo to a can for pickup by your hauler alt.

KerinKor wrote: »

thjudgeman1142ub17_ESO wrote: »

Botting made easy... nice.

Ah, this old ignorant comment .. multiboxing isn't botting.

No it just is cheap.
Also who knows, every game has different rules.

DeltaDude wrote: »

KerinKor wrote: »

thjudgeman1142ub17_ESO wrote: »

Botting made easy... nice.

Ah, this old ignorant comment .. multiboxing isn't botting.

No it just is cheap.
Also who knows, every game has different rules.

Cheap? No, it costs extra money for more account(s).

And Zenimax will be the first MMO in history to 'ban' multiboxing if they do, nothing in the TOS prevents it and nothing in the TOS CAN prevent it because to do so would mean no one could play it.

Hint: No form of words in a TOS can prevent me from playing two separate accounts on two PCs at the same time while continuing to allow me to play only one at a time.

Yes, the TOS can exclude the use of 'third-party' software but I don't have to use third-party software to play two characters at once so ...

KerinKor wrote: »

DeltaDude wrote: »

KerinKor wrote: »

thjudgeman1142ub17_ESO wrote: »

Botting made easy... nice.

Ah, this old ignorant comment .. multiboxing isn't botting.

No it just is cheap.
Also who knows, every game has different rules.

Cheap? No, it costs extra money for more account(s).

And Zenimax will be the first MMO in history to 'ban' multiboxing if they do, nothing in the TOS prevents it and nothing in the TOS CAN prevent it because to do so would mean no one could play it.

Hint: No form of words in a TOS can prevent me from playing two separate accounts on two PCs at the same time while continuing to allow me to play only one at a time.

Yes, the TOS can exclude the use of 'third-party' software but I don't have to use third-party software to play two characters at once so ...

Actually I believe WAR banned multi boxing. I know because there where accounts banned that I reported for doing so. Multi boxing = no skill anyways. L2P! :P lmao

KerinKor wrote: »

thjudgeman1142ub17_ESO wrote: »

Botting made easy... nice.

Ah, this old ignorant comment .. multiboxing isn't botting.

I understand multiboxing isnt botting as I gave examples in the rest of my post you left out.. but I dont see the advantage in this game. Being that it is very dynamic the only way to make it worth your while to "multibox" would be to use software that automates for you...thus...botting.

I really dont want to see massive GW2 type groups running around "multiboxing" (well botting really) wiping spawns/dungeons/mats/etc.

If you dont think its botting then ok...enjoy.

I dont rake and you're right I should use my imagination more heh. I dont have problems with this unless it's abused by people botting.

I was wanting to multibox just for the rings xp bonus as my friend playing this went with a different alliance for his main... but that seems to be a tad expensive for an intangible item. Running 4 accounts in Eve killed my inner child... made billions in game but killed my enjoyment.

KerinKor wrote: »

DeltaDude wrote: »

KerinKor wrote: »

thjudgeman1142ub17_ESO wrote: »

Botting made easy... nice.

Ah, this old ignorant comment .. multiboxing isn't botting.

No it just is cheap.
Also who knows, every game has different rules.

Cheap? No, it costs extra money for more account(s).

And Zenimax will be the first MMO in history to 'ban' multiboxing if they do, nothing in the TOS prevents it and nothing in the TOS CAN prevent it because to do so would mean no one could play it.

Hint: No form of words in a TOS can prevent me from playing two separate accounts on two PCs at the same time while continuing to allow me to play only one at a time.

Yes, the TOS can exclude the use of 'third-party' software but I don't have to use third-party software to play two characters at once so ...

You correct about words in the TOS preventing or allowing playing two separate accounts on two PCs at the same time while continuing to allow play only one at a time.

However, stating that Zenimax will be the first MMO in history to 'ban' multiboxing is incorrect. ArenaNet has already been established as the first MMORPG developer in history to 'ban' multiboxing even though they clearly state it's OK on their forums. The GW2 User Agreement has nothing that states multiboxing (playing more than one account at the same time) is allowed or not.

ArenaNet will ban players that play more than one account even though ArenaNet doesn't state it is allowed or not in their GW2 User Agreement. Even if you press one key for each character on separate computers, as long as the characters look the same and are similarly named, ArenaNet WILL BAN YOU! It's PROVEN! That is the only company in the history of MMOs that I'm aware of that will ban for the practice if it just looks like the characters are the same. Why do they do this? Because they get massive reports from players that don't know the difference of what they are seeing. Players believe they are seeing bots but their support team has to check all of the reports and eventually the support team gets tired of getting so many reports so they just ban the person for the hell of it. Seriously! There is no subscription for that game so to handle all of the reports they receive for a person that plays within their rules, but players don't know the difference? They ban you. End of getting all of the reports, stops it right in its tracks and the support team doesn't have to deal with it any more. The support team knows the player is playing within their rules, but every day they keep getting massive reports and they have to keep spending the time to monitor to verify the player is playing by the rules. ArenaNet is the only MMO developer in the history of the world that I'm aware of that has ever banned a player that plays by their rules but were forced to because they received so many reports from players that didn't know the difference between botting and multiboxing. Imagine a multiboxer got to max level 80 and does world vs world, that multiboxer would get reports from all three servers from just about everyone that plays wvw. Even if the player presses a key for each character on separate computers, the people think "let's report him any way and let ArenaNet sort it out". This happens every day for a few weeks, ArenaNet will get tired of all of the massive reports and just simply end it by banning the player that received all of the reports. They know the player is playing by the rules, but their support team has to check all of the reports each time every day and there is no subscription so the multiboxer keeps on playing while ArenaNet keeps on getting reports. Think about it, what are they going to do?

With ESO, this might be different because ESO has a subscription so maybe the support team is more careful with who they ban. However, there is still a problem with interpretation of whether or not playing more than one account is allowed with ESO or not. Game developers very rarely state prior to an MMOs release whether or not it's allowed. The only one I know of that did state it was Square Enix with FFXIV Reborn where they not only stated it was allowed, but they gave information on how to use more than one account on the PC.

Nothing has been stated from Zenimax Studios on their stance concerning playing more than one account at the same time. And as already mentioned, no TOS or EULA or User Agreement ever states whether or not playing more than account at the same time is allowed or not.

As long as it doesnt happen in Cyrodiil, i cant see problem with it. Let people do it, to trade between alts, or even to run dungeons on their own, if for example they shy/dont like to group with strangers.

But any multiboxing in Cyrodiil should end up with nice sweet perma ban. Its always kids who cant PVP because of lack of skills but want to have a chance against others, so they run 4 characters at once.

Best solution: Disable /follow command(if it even exist, not sure) in Cyrodiil. RIFT did that in warfronts, and stopped multiboxers instantly.

I've actually managed to work out how to do this and it's actually a simple problem and fix.

1. Launch ESO as normal and you get the Launcher. Press play and login to your first account.
2. Tab back to desktop and close the Launcher.
3. Open launcher again and this time the play button will be available. Login to second account.
4. Rinse and repeat as required for accounts and enjoy.

Many will assume "no" and report the said multi-boxing. It will be best ZOS put it in writing, otherwise there will be many reports by others. Just be careful in those action, this one does not really like the idea because it leads to abuse to easy: Gold Farming, Account selling with high level chars, makes farming for items to easy.

RakeWorm wrote: »

thjudgeman1142ub17_ESO wrote: »

I understand multiboxing isnt botting as I gave examples in the rest of my post you left out.. but I dont see the advantage in this game. Being that it is very dynamic the only way to make it worth your while to "multibox" would be to use software that automates for you...thus...botting.

I really dont want to see massive GW2 type groups running around "multiboxing" (well botting really) wiping spawns/dungeons/mats/etc.

If you dont think its botting then ok...enjoy.

Have more imagination. There are other uses for multiboxing that don't require botting.

Roleplaying, for one. Don't assume those of us trying to get multiboxing working are all trying to bot.

The only reason i used multiboxing in the past was for creating Machinima or setting up elaborated screenshots.

Yes you could call up a friend but some times it's faster and easier to just log in 3 accounts and do it yourself.

I just want to be ably to play on the NA server while downloading the EU files.

Karnus wrote: »

I just want to be ably to play on the NA server while downloading the EU files.

I can play on the NA server while the PST files are downloading, so you don't need to have multiple instances of the game running, just the launcher running in the background. Unless the EU Launcher is different, but then you should only need that running to get the updates for that server.

That being said, I have noticed that the launcher downloading files can cause the game to lock up and crash. So, there is that. I even kill the launcher now before I log in to the game near the time the PST is ready for an update.