Lag Screenshot Diary - March 23rd

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Glade keep siege - 10pm eastern time

Following are screenshots showing lag issues and skills used in keep.

1) talons pierces through floor. excessive use of graphics to render?
2) excessive stack in non-flag area of glade? is that a healing springs graphic?

imgur.com/a/jz5Z3
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  • Kickimanjaro
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    Yeah that fight was nuts. Crazy ass lag, and I gotta give props to EP's healers. That *** was impressive.
  • xDOVAHKIINx
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    Count the red dots there are not that many. Also I don't understand the point of this thread, my group restacks on several points of a keep too. These stupid threads need to stop.
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  • Estelee
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    I counted six EP in my screenshot, and twenty - seven DC.
    Even with stacked ultimates and AOE's we could not bring down EP.
    In fact we continually died while the same six people lived for over ten minutes against hoards of DC.

    I came here hoping someone would mention it, I logged out for a while afterwards due to the frustration.
    I'm unsure if it was the lagg, or the exploits I continually hear about, but it was quite upsetting to experience.

    I hope there is a solution soon.

    I just wanted to say my two bits, you know the. "I was there", "It's just as they said" and so forth.

    Peace.

    [ P.S ] My screenshot is only of one side. There was an equal number of EP, and DC to the left of the frame I captured.

    Screenshot :: http://i.imgur.com/mIujnxd.png
    Edited by Estelee on March 24, 2015 3:46AM
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  • Bulldog1205
    The point is the EP were somehow immune to attack. They were outnumbered about 5 to 1 being hit by 3 different siege weapons and they weren't taking hardly any damage. It's like we were hitting nothing. So much lag that most people were invincible.
  • Minno
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    Count the red dots there are not that many. Also I don't understand the point of this thread, my group restacks on several points of a keep too. These stupid threads need to stop.

    perhaps, but point of this thread was to give the devs an eye into how the lag effects us.
    (last few screens show white screens that last a few seconds, talons non-clipping through floors, etc.)

    Tonight happened to be EP in the center of some stills.
    Another night might be AD, doesn't matter.

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  • xDOVAHKIINx
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    Your link is entitled "maybe intentional". figured it just another naive faction bash boo hoo.
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  • sean.plackerb14_ESO
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    I was at that fight just now on the DC side. About 5 mins or more of not being able to use abilities and usually not even being able to light attack. Number one thing I noticed was a TON of meteor ults being fired off over and over and over.

    I have no comment about and honestly don't care if this is some kind of exploit done on purpose or not to create lag. The game shouldn't completely break like this. I know Brian said they have engineers working on it. I really hope they are making some progress internally.
    Edited by sean.plackerb14_ESO on March 24, 2015 3:34AM
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  • EIGHTS
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    I really want to know how to LAG the server like EP do.

    We can't do anything but they don't. WHAT A FAIR GAME!!

    If ZoS doesn't have any solution, I think the game isn't worth to play any more.
    If ZoS really want EP win everything, just do it. Don't waste our time.


    Edited by EIGHTS on March 24, 2015 3:34AM
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  • Minno
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    Your link is entitled "maybe intentional". figured it just another naive faction bash boo hoo.

    Well its just a discussion starter in a way to give devs a chance to respond and see parts of the game that happen during times of the day they cant.

    I have no idea if its intention, but to rule it out swiftly seems wrong. But I know a white screen for a few seconds a year into the game when at start i never had them is a bit troublesome (what ever the reason is.)
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  • xDOVAHKIINx
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    EIGHTS wrote: »
    I really want to know how to LAG the server like EP do.

    I am on AD, and i know how to lag the server intentionally. And the father of server lag belonged to DC, you should probably stop the bashing.
    "According to most of the people on these forums, every organized 16 man guild group is a lagblobbing pulsespamming zerg."-Fmonk
  • EIGHTS
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    EIGHTS wrote: »
    I really want to know how to LAG the server like EP do.

    I am on AD, and i know how to lag the server intentionally. And the father of server lag belonged to DC, you should probably stop the bashing.

    Stop crying here.
    You don't help to solve any problem. Just want to bash us.


    Edited by EIGHTS on March 24, 2015 3:40AM
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  • Kickimanjaro
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    EIGHTS wrote: »
    EIGHTS wrote: »
    I really want to know how to LAG the server like EP do.

    I am on AD, and i know how to lag the server intentionally. And the father of server lag belonged to DC, you should probably stop the bashing.

    Stop crying here.
    You don't help to solve any problem. Just want to bash us.


    Makes sense he wants to bash us, we're casting Nerd Rage. huehuehue
  • EIGHTS
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    Makes sense he wants to bash us, we're casting Nerd Rage. huehuehue

    Those AD help EP.
    They don't have any honor and no one care about Alliance War.

    That is really sad.
    I'm not native speaker in English. I hope that I don't make you misunderstand.
  • Alomar
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    70+ DC (with a respawn) vs. 14 havoc and 4-6 IR and here comes the lagsploit qq'ing. We took tons of dmg from the same types of aoe builds and the same ultimates as you did. We just did a better job avoiding ulti drops, rotating, healing, and coordinating our own ulti's.

    But by all means let's put on these tinfoil hats and blame someone else for our own shortcomings.

    Let's review what happened from someone who isn't interested in blaming other plays for Zenimax's *** server tech:

    - DC zerg (50-70+ at any time) ontop of less than 20 EP = unplyayable lag, 1 in every 10 skills work and many don't work at all (ground effects included; caltrops, blockades, etc.)
    - DC zerg wipes 5-6 times and many leave and the rest spread out, EP grp is still in same spot doing same thing and lag goes away
    - DC lesser zerg able to use siege and kill EP players (btw that *** is op lol)

    In review: If you want to blame someone blame yourselves, otherwise learn to use that brain your parents helped create for you and do something productive like petition Zenimax to actually provide a game capable of what their marketing says can happen.
    Edited by Alomar on March 24, 2015 4:41AM
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  • Antirob
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    From dear lord attorneyatlawl
    Meteor is most likely causing additional lag due to the knockback. having to calculate players knockbacked,how far, which direction + the dot aoe doesnt help.
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  • Rylana
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    Alomar wrote: »
    70+ DC (with a respawn) vs. 14 havoc and 4-6 IR and here comes the lagsploit qq'ing. We took tons of dmg from the same types of aoe builds and the same ultimates as you did. We just did a better job avoiding ulti drops, rotating, healing, and coordinating our own ulti's.

    But by all means let's put on these tinfoil hats and blame someone else for our own shortcomings.

    Let's review what happened from someone who isn't interested in blaming other plays for Zenimax's *** server tech:

    - DC zerg (50-70+ at any time) ontop of less than 20 EP = unplyayable lag, 1 in every 10 skills work and many don't work at all (ground effects included; caltrops, blockades, etc.)
    - DC zerg wipes 5-6 times and many leave and the rest spread out, EP grp is still in same spot doing same thing and lag goes away
    - DC lesser zerg able to use siege and kill EP players (btw that *** is op lol)

    In review: If you want to blame someone blame yourselves, otherwise learn to use that brain your parents helped create for you and do something productive like petition Zenimax to actually provide a game capable of what their marketing says can happen.

    The one part of your argument that doesnt hold up

    If youre experiencing the same lag as others claim you generate, how are you able to coordinate ultimates and rotations using 1/10 skills?

    Simple fact is you dont and are up to shady things. Some of your guys are decent solid players, but a lot of you have been crutching on this lag exploit for quite some time, and its getting pretty old now. No one wants to fight you because of the lag you cause.

    You guys are good enough without your crutch. I used to enjoy the challenge, now I despise it because I cant even fight back. Yet somehow some way youre mowing around using all your stuff on people that are completely stuck and unable to even use a skill.

    Seems legit.
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  • Zhoyzu
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    YEA let me just post a picture of lag.... Cant you see how we are all arent moving in this picture?

    The phrase "no pic no proof" doesn't apply to latency. you either need a video or an extremely vivid description. I want a 8 book saga of the 30 seconds of lag you experienced.


    GET A VIDEO

    ^ sorry my shift key lagged
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  • Minno
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    Alomar wrote: »
    70+ DC (with a respawn) vs. 14 havoc and 4-6 IR and here comes the lagsploit qq'ing. We took tons of dmg from the same types of aoe builds and the same ultimates as you did. We just did a better job avoiding ulti drops, rotating, healing, and coordinating our own ulti's.

    But by all means let's put on these tinfoil hats and blame someone else for our own shortcomings.

    Let's review what happened from someone who isn't interested in blaming other plays for Zenimax's *** server tech:

    - DC zerg (50-70+ at any time) ontop of less than 20 EP = unplyayable lag, 1 in every 10 skills work and many don't work at all (ground effects included; caltrops, blockades, etc.)
    - DC zerg wipes 5-6 times and many leave and the rest spread out, EP grp is still in same spot doing same thing and lag goes away
    - DC lesser zerg able to use siege and kill EP players (btw that *** is op lol)

    In review: If you want to blame someone blame yourselves, otherwise learn to use that brain your parents helped create for you and do something productive like petition Zenimax to actually provide a game capable of what their marketing says can happen.

    No hurts or malice despite my original photo link name suggests. Just a thread to show our side of lag pain and skills I've noticed should be looked into.

    In response to your bullet points:

    1) lag can't just start out of thin air. What are we doing together just moments prior to battle that prompts it to kick up? Is the keep doing something that's taking up server time?

    2) lag did not go away till ep group was gone. Rides to keep had lag stronger as distance was shorter to keep.

    3) seige effects not being discussed here. Not to mention tonight those know levels jumped to vr12 instead of vr5 buffs. I'd imagine not much difference between the two except gear perks/ skill lines.


    Let me add an extra thought I just remembered:

    1) first month or two of game launch, aoe spam in banks prompted undue lag? What was the actual cause and eventual fix from zennimax?

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  • Minno
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    Antirob wrote: »
    From dear lord attorneyatlawl
    Meteor is most likely causing additional lag due to the knockback. having to calculate players knockbacked,how far, which direction + the dot aoe doesnt help.

    If that's the case, what's the next best anti-group skilll? And if there isn't what would be a good one to add?
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  • Minno
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    Zhoyzu wrote: »
    YEA let me just post a picture of lag.... Cant you see how we are all arent moving in this picture?

    The phrase "no pic no proof" doesn't apply to latency. you either need a video or an extremely vivid description. I want a 8 book saga of the 30 seconds of lag you experienced.


    GET A VIDEO

    ^ sorry my shift key lagged

    Photos were used to:

    1) show skills glitching through floors,
    2) provide clear accessibility to view without HD compatible connections/hardware and save time posting,
    3) and my latency plus fps numbers are on display showing we are indeed in a vortex-induced hardware/connection hell. (Least I think my ui shows it)

    Anything else I'm missing?
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  • Alomar
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    Rylana wrote: »
    Alomar wrote: »
    70+ DC (with a respawn) vs. 14 havoc and 4-6 IR and here comes the lagsploit qq'ing. We took tons of dmg from the same types of aoe builds and the same ultimates as you did. We just did a better job avoiding ulti drops, rotating, healing, and coordinating our own ulti's.

    But by all means let's put on these tinfoil hats and blame someone else for our own shortcomings.

    Let's review what happened from someone who isn't interested in blaming other plays for Zenimax's *** server tech:

    - DC zerg (50-70+ at any time) ontop of less than 20 EP = unplyayable lag, 1 in every 10 skills work and many don't work at all (ground effects included; caltrops, blockades, etc.)
    - DC zerg wipes 5-6 times and many leave and the rest spread out, EP grp is still in same spot doing same thing and lag goes away
    - DC lesser zerg able to use siege and kill EP players (btw that *** is op lol)

    In review: If you want to blame someone blame yourselves, otherwise learn to use that brain your parents helped create for you and do something productive like petition Zenimax to actually provide a game capable of what their marketing says can happen.

    The one part of your argument that doesnt hold up

    If youre experiencing the same lag as others claim you generate, how are you able to coordinate ultimates and rotations using 1/10 skills?

    Simple fact is you dont and are up to shady things. Some of your guys are decent solid players, but a lot of you have been crutching on this lag exploit for quite some time, and its getting pretty old now. No one wants to fight you because of the lag you cause.

    You guys are good enough without your crutch. I used to enjoy the challenge, now I despise it because I cant even fight back. Yet somehow some way youre mowing around using all your stuff on people that are completely stuck and unable to even use a skill.

    Seems legit.

    More nonsense from an argument that isn't thought out very well.

    You can still kill stuff, move, and drop ultimates with 1/10 skills working and ultimate skill delays it is just extremely slow. Another tinfoil hat comment involving "shady things" because you loose to us.

    To the comment who said the lag only ended because the EP grp died. Wrong as I clearly said in my review, the lag ended before that when the DC zerg spread out which is evident by the fact siege started working which was used to kill us.

    Sorry your not able to articulate these ridiculous ideas in any noteworthy way, please by all means keep up these conspiracies though.
    Edited by Alomar on March 24, 2015 8:22PM
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  • IcyDeadPeople
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    Rylana wrote: »
    Alomar wrote: »
    70+ DC (with a respawn) vs. 14 havoc and 4-6 IR and here comes the lagsploit qq'ing. We took tons of dmg from the same types of aoe builds and the same ultimates as you did. We just did a better job avoiding ulti drops, rotating, healing, and coordinating our own ulti's.

    But by all means let's put on these tinfoil hats and blame someone else for our own shortcomings.

    Let's review what happened from someone who isn't interested in blaming other plays for Zenimax's *** server tech:

    - DC zerg (50-70+ at any time) ontop of less than 20 EP = unplyayable lag, 1 in every 10 skills work and many don't work at all (ground effects included; caltrops, blockades, etc.)
    - DC zerg wipes 5-6 times and many leave and the rest spread out, EP grp is still in same spot doing same thing and lag goes away
    - DC lesser zerg able to use siege and kill EP players (btw that *** is op lol)

    In review: If you want to blame someone blame yourselves, otherwise learn to use that brain your parents helped create for you and do something productive like petition Zenimax to actually provide a game capable of what their marketing says can happen.

    The one part of your argument that doesnt hold up

    If youre experiencing the same lag as others claim you generate, how are you able to coordinate ultimates and rotations using 1/10 skills?

    Simple fact is you dont and are up to shady things. Some of your guys are decent solid players, but a lot of you have been crutching on this lag exploit for quite some time, and its getting pretty old now. No one wants to fight you because of the lag you cause.

    You guys are good enough without your crutch. I used to enjoy the challenge, now I despise it because I cant even fight back. Yet somehow some way youre mowing around using all your stuff on people that are completely stuck and unable to even use a skill.

    Seems legit.

    I've played on EP as well as DC in Cyrodiil. When ping shoots up and the game lags out, it affects me just like every other player in the area, all factions. It doesn't help anybody. Nobody enjoys playing when they can't use their abilities, swap weapons, etc.
  • WebBull
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    Alomar wrote: »

    - EP zerg (50-70+ at any time) ontop of less than 20 DC
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    Fixed.
  • ZOS_GaryA
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    Hey there folks,

    We really appreciate the rolling updates, however a /bug will contain the location of your character, as well as the direction they're facing, the abilities they've recently used, and a ton of additional useful data. As opposed to updating this topic, simply entering a /bug will be the most helpful to areas that cause frame rate drops or other lag issues. As we'd like to encourage the use of the /bug feature, we're going to go ahead and close this thread. We appreciate your understanding, and thank you in advance for these useful reports!
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