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✭Nothing to do with the people who abuse it - it was an obvious problem that needed fixing. They increased xp in a lazy way, and it was ridiculously exploitable. Increase XP based on boss kills with more XP for each boss along the trial. Not that hard of a thing to do.World First Hel Ra / AA clear
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✭Nothing to do with the people who abuse it - it was an obvious problem that needed fixing. They increased xp in a lazy way, and it was ridiculously exploitable. Increase XP based on boss kills with more XP for each boss along the trial. Not that hard of a thing to do.
Yea, this is a dead simple and easy fix. I really don't understand why they don't do this.2 -
ElliottXO✭✭✭✭✭Nothing to do with the people who abuse it - it was an obvious problem that needed fixing. They increased xp in a lazy way, and it was ridiculously exploitable. Increase XP based on boss kills with more XP for each boss along the trial. Not that hard of a thing to do.
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BlackEar✭✭✭✭✭Where is the official word on this ?Bjorn Blackbear - Master Angler - Collector - Black Market Mogul - Ebonheart Pact - Exterminatus - EU.
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✭Nothing to do with the people who abuse it - it was an obvious problem that needed fixing. They increased xp in a lazy way, and it was ridiculously exploitable. Increase XP based on boss kills with more XP for each boss along the trial. Not that hard of a thing to do.
I'm sure people exploiting it had everything to do with the change. They should have made the XP apply at the end of the run once you reached the boss. Some groups still can't kill the bosses so as long as they make it there the XP should be awarded, not for each easy mob kill at the start. They could award the XP after going through a door to the boss area. Bosses should still give the most XP as it will give people incentives to still kill them.
They also need to drop better loot. Some trails like DSA are just worthless crap. The repair costs aren't recouped with the rewards. Even if you wipe a few times you should still make money from a trial. I'm not talking 10k + from gold pay outs but 3-5k would be decent and cover any repairs for the run.NA Server - Kildair0 -
Suru✭✭✭✭Nothing to do with the people who abuse it - it was an obvious problem that needed fixing. They increased xp in a lazy way, and it was ridiculously exploitable. Increase XP based on boss kills with more XP for each boss along the trial. Not that hard of a thing to do.
Yea it was a lazy way to fix it, making it 12 man only or like you said, boss xp ftw
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Yes, at the end of the trial, whether end boss or out of rez's.Nothing to do with the people who abuse it - it was an obvious problem that needed fixing. They increased xp in a lazy way, and it was ridiculously exploitable. Increase XP based on boss kills with more XP for each boss along the trial. Not that hard of a thing to do.
I'm sure people exploiting it had everything to do with the change. They should have made the XP apply at the end of the run once you reached the boss. Some groups still can't kill the bosses so as long as they make it there the XP should be awarded, not for each easy mob kill at the start. They could award the XP after going through a door to the boss area. Bosses should still give the most XP as it will give people incentives to still kill them.
They also need to drop better loot. Some trails like DSA are just worthless crap. The repair costs aren't recouped with the rewards. Even if you wipe a few times you should still make money from a trial. I'm not talking 10k + from gold pay outs but 3-5k would be decent and cover any repairs for the run.
As to the people that weren't exploiting and just 'didn't know any better,' they should have their CP's rolled back to pre 2.02, perhaps with interest. Not buying for a minute that anyone thought this was what they had in mind.
Just because you don't like the way something is doesn't necessarily make it wrong...
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BlackEar✭✭✭✭✭As an EU player, can someone explain what happened?Bjorn Blackbear - Master Angler - Collector - Black Market Mogul - Ebonheart Pact - Exterminatus - EU.
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✭For all the armchair dev's http://jobs.zenimax.com/ get hired and put all those easy fix ideas in place
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✭Merlin13KAGL wrote: »
Yes, at the end of the trial, whether end boss or out of rez's.Nothing to do with the people who abuse it - it was an obvious problem that needed fixing. They increased xp in a lazy way, and it was ridiculously exploitable. Increase XP based on boss kills with more XP for each boss along the trial. Not that hard of a thing to do.
I'm sure people exploiting it had everything to do with the change. They should have made the XP apply at the end of the run once you reached the boss. Some groups still can't kill the bosses so as long as they make it there the XP should be awarded, not for each easy mob kill at the start. They could award the XP after going through a door to the boss area. Bosses should still give the most XP as it will give people incentives to still kill them.
They also need to drop better loot. Some trails like DSA are just worthless crap. The repair costs aren't recouped with the rewards. Even if you wipe a few times you should still make money from a trial. I'm not talking 10k + from gold pay outs but 3-5k would be decent and cover any repairs for the run.
As to the people that weren't exploiting and just 'didn't know any better,' they should have their CP's rolled back to pre 2.02, perhaps with interest. Not buying for a minute that anyone thought this was what they had in mind.
I agree with this. Until people have REAL consequences for their actions they will continue to cheat, find and abuse exploits that help them get the highest CP possible. That's all it's about for them. They want the end result now and aren't patient enough to wait for it. As long as there's no threat of LOSING CP this will just continue to occur. People will stop posting about them and just whisper to friends in the game. ZOS should be able to easily query trial runs to see who's doing them over and over and only progressing far enough to kill these high XP mobs.
I log on every day and do things that do not give CP and I don't look for ways to make that back up. There's so many CP points IMO they will take forever to get so I'm not worried about x number I get a day if any. Play and enjoy the game as it's intended. When you get a CP appreciate it as it's an achievement, apply it and move on to your next adventure!NA Server - Kildair3 -
DeathDealer19✭✭✭✭Lol was this another silent ninja nerf that ZOS is famous for? When something is broken or doesn't work it takes them months if fixed at all. Yet when something works too good, its ninja nerfed in 5 minutes@DeathDealer19
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✭✭✭✭✭This is just MORE PROOF that ZoS hates solo grinders!
So now they're going to lock up all the best XP mobs behind walls that solo players can't climb over? That's just WRONG.#CAREBEARMASTERRACE2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Merlin13KAGL wrote: »
Yes, at the end of the trial, whether end boss or out of rez's.Nothing to do with the people who abuse it - it was an obvious problem that needed fixing. They increased xp in a lazy way, and it was ridiculously exploitable. Increase XP based on boss kills with more XP for each boss along the trial. Not that hard of a thing to do.
I'm sure people exploiting it had everything to do with the change. They should have made the XP apply at the end of the run once you reached the boss. Some groups still can't kill the bosses so as long as they make it there the XP should be awarded, not for each easy mob kill at the start. They could award the XP after going through a door to the boss area. Bosses should still give the most XP as it will give people incentives to still kill them.
They also need to drop better loot. Some trails like DSA are just worthless crap. The repair costs aren't recouped with the rewards. Even if you wipe a few times you should still make money from a trial. I'm not talking 10k + from gold pay outs but 3-5k would be decent and cover any repairs for the run.
As to the people that weren't exploiting and just 'didn't know any better,' they should have their CP's rolled back to pre 2.02, perhaps with interest. Not buying for a minute that anyone thought this was what they had in mind.
I agree with this. Until people have REAL consequences for their actions they will continue to cheat, find and abuse exploits that help them get the highest CP possible. That's all it's about for them. They want the end result now and aren't patient enough to wait for it. As long as there's no threat of LOSING CP this will just continue to occur. People will stop posting about them and just whisper to friends in the game. ZOS should be able to easily query trial runs to see who's doing them over and over and only progressing far enough to kill these high XP mobs.
I log on every day and do things that do not give CP and I don't look for ways to make that back up. There's so many CP points IMO they will take forever to get so I'm not worried about x number I get a day if any. Play and enjoy the game as it's intended. When you get a CP appreciate it as it's an achievement, apply it and move on to your next adventure!
How is it "exploiting" to kill mobs for XP...ever?! The mobs in question had the XP boost that was already mentioned in the official patch notes. So what if players were entering Trials without a big group?!#CAREBEARMASTERRACE0 -
Contraptions✭✭✭✭✭I sometimes wonder whether ZOS even runs their ideas through basic common sense/testing before they implement them.Patroller and Editor at UESP4 -
vovus69✭✭✭✭This was just stupid change in game mechanics, so they reverted it back. It is a pity that I was not able to use it
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50k with or without enlight?ommyy - Stamblade - Brigadier - Master Angler - Former Emperor - All trophies Done - Stormproof - 27400 Achievement Points....
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McDoogs✭✭✭✭It took players what, ~3 minutes to realize it was broken? How did professional MMO developers, designers, and QA engineers not see it? These guys are clowns, lol.4
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BlackEar✭✭✭✭✭Should really have ben tested before made live.
I mean, did they not think about it?Bjorn Blackbear - Master Angler - Collector - Black Market Mogul - Ebonheart Pact - Exterminatus - EU.
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My thoughts exactly. Upping the xp for mobs tenfold in combination with Hel Ra initial mobs is a no-brainer. If I were cynical I would now say "Shows how little the Zeni's know about their own game!"Should really have ben tested before made live.
I mean, did they not think about it?
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✭Emma_Eunjung wrote: »This is just MORE PROOF that ZoS hates solo grinders!
So now they're going to lock up all the best XP mobs behind walls that solo players can't climb over? That's just WRONG.
The worst part of all this, is 1.6 created an over all nerf. Average PVE players that were running several trials a night, now can't get through one...and they have to earn xxx amount of CP to just get back to where they were. This need to find the quickest route to that was created by ZOS. It's not going to stop until players get back what they lost, a failure on the part of ZOS for implementing a system that should have complemented where players already were in game and built on that. Instead they decided to take from players without giving viable means to re-achieve....and this was spoken out about repeatedly while it was in PTS.If options weren't necessary, and everyone played the same way, no one would use addons. Fix the UI!4 -
Ommy71✭✭✭I have done a simple pve quest in Cyrodil, 33k is insane!ommyy - Stamblade - Brigadier - Master Angler - Former Emperor - All trophies Done - Stormproof - 27400 Achievement Points....
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kelly.medleyb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Because whoever is running this ZoS show is greedy and doesn't want to hire real software analysts.0
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✭✭✭✭✭Emma_Eunjung wrote: »This is just MORE PROOF that ZoS hates solo grinders!
So now they're going to lock up all the best XP mobs behind walls that solo players can't climb over? That's just WRONG.
PvE XP in Cyrodiil is not bad, though. Went there last night with a friend and we did one of the quest hubs (and you get to kill a lot of mobs in some of those quests).
Did anyone test the first pull in Sanctum?The Moot Councillor0
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