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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

The Boredom of the Grind?

MarconiusBal
I have played this game for a while but the love of crafting seems to be wearing off... Any tips on how to survive grinding armor at at least some carrying capacity help so I can deconstruct faster? Fellow Crafters! Help, Please!
  • Nestor
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    How I do it is to have about 50 bank slots free (more if I can help it) then go out and run Dungeons, Delves and Mobs and loot them. For example, I have decided to get my Woodworker/Clothing crafter up to snuff in Blacksmithing. So, I vendor all the white and green Light, Medium and Wood items, then deposit the Metal armor and weapons in the bank. Once the bank is full, then I log to my crafter, and decon. No need to go to the bank first, you can decon what is in the bank (so be careful you don't decon something important) If you have something important, roll a Mule Alt and have them store the items you don't want to have deconstructed or researched.

    You can also use a Mule for temp bank storage, move things to a mule, do the decon shuffle, then when done, put the stuff you use back in the bank. You can upgrade a Mule to 90 slots for less than 10K in gold. (400, 2000, 5900) I think you start at 60, so that should be 90 with the first 3 upgrades. Then you can level up the horse to 50, and have 140 slots pretty cheap.

    You can also upgrade your horse bag space now along with speed. I am doing that on all the horses I specced into speed prior to 1.6. This way all my active characters will have 170 slots.
    Enjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.

    PakKat "Everything was going well, until I died"
    Gary Gravestink "I am glad you died, I needed the help"

  • JungleBoot
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    The horse thing takes time. There is no quick route to the extra slots on the horse. Plus, a good majority of players will quit before their horse is maxed on all traits. So, how about some realistic advice. In all honesty, crafting should be focused on after reaching Veteran status or by making friends with others that are already Veterans. Have them pass all of their white gear to you for decon -- provided they have no plans for it themself.
    Platform: PS4
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  • Nestor
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    JungleBoot wrote: »
    So, how about some realistic advice.

    So your "realistic advice" is to somehow get other people to give you stuff so you can advance your character instead of working for it?
    Enjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.

    PakKat "Everything was going well, until I died"
    Gary Gravestink "I am glad you died, I needed the help"

  • Vandril
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    With the new Justice system, you can steal your way to max crafting very quickly. Or so I've heard - I haven't tested the decon EXP on stolen equipment, but the hearsay is that it's the same as any other gear you didn't make.

    If you don't mind being a criminal, just steal from equipment shops, right off of their displays. You'll occasionally loot 3-4 pieces of gear from one display. Looting an entire shop's worth of gear can result in nearly 15-20 pieces, and you have tons of shops available to you, so you essentially get infinite gear. Just don't get caught.

    From what I understand, the gear you can steal from ANY shop is based on your character level. You seem to always get the highest level you can equip. Or is it based on the corresponding craft's skill? I'm not quite sure, but the point is the same either way.

    Also, as for carrying capacity, you have a variety of options if you find your inventory filling:
    • Buy more bag slots (Expensive!)
    • Buy more bank slots (Very Expensive!)
    • Buy your daily Capacity stat for your Horse Training (Slow! At the loss of increasing other Horse Training stats each day!)
    • Make a/some bank alt(s) (Annoying to constantly switch characters every time you need an item!)
    • Get rid of unneeded materials (Admit it, you don't NEED everything you're keeping for a rainy day! Looking at you, racial stones!)
    • Split your crafts amongst different characters (This way, each character can hold materials for their respective craft!)

    These are pretty much your choices. None of them are the perfect solutions you're probably hoping for, but that's because there are no perfect solutions available. These are what ya got, so let's hope you can make do.
  • Surfinginhawaii
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    I paid someone gold to level my enchanting (bought glyphs) and bought alchemy items, etc. from the guild stores to level the other crafting skills. Before the justice system, leveling provisioning was the easiest skill to level, you just had to loot all the crates, bags, boxes, etc. in any big town. My main character is level 50 in all the crafting skills and she can craft 9 trait items in woodworking and 8 trait items in everything else.
  • MarconiusBal
    I was stealing armor from stands back when this game started... I want something interesting like a quest or a place that is over abundant with armor but hard to get to. I don't want to do exactly the same thing for the remaining23 levels remaining in smithing for me. Any tips for that or am I just in one of vaermina's nightmares.
  • Nestor
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    I was stealing armor from stands back when this game started... I want something interesting like a quest or a place that is over abundant with armor but hard to get to. I don't want to do exactly the same thing for the remaining23 levels remaining in smithing for me. Any tips for that or am I just in one of vaermina's nightmares.

    The white trash items that you could grab before gave 1/3 the inspiration, or less, than loot or crafted items do. In fact, I think you make more inspiration breaking down the stuff you make.

    Making things gives you the lowest amount of inspiration, so much so that I only ground out one stack of mats doing that before I never did that again.

    The fastest way to level smithing, as in inspiration per item, is to break down things that others have made. However that increase over regular white and green items you loot is not so much that it makes it worth the pain that it is to have others make things for you. (you can only send like 6 or 7 things at a time and it takes dozens to gain some levels) This is something I won't do for anyone anymore.

    So, really the most efficient way to level smithing is to loot mobs and break down the metal armor and weapons. You can gain a few levels with each inventory haul. There are grind spots all over the game where the mobs are near your level, and respawn quickly. For example, the Druegh outside of Drueghside drop metal armor and weapons and they are on a fast respawn. I leveled one crafter in Blacksmithing from 20 to 32 in just two trips to that place. Note, my gatherer had 150 loot slots open, so you might need more trips. If you sell the Wood and Cloth/Leather items you get, then you can make money on the operation, even after repairs.

    But, to level Smithing, you gots to grind. Something.

    Enjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.

    PakKat "Everything was going well, until I died"
    Gary Gravestink "I am glad you died, I needed the help"

  • MarconiusBal
    Well that sucks but at least I can still fight to get my items rather than only deconstructing the weapons and armor I make. So I am having trouble with what I should keep in my inventory vs what I should keep in the bank. Any help on that because I am lost...
  • Nestor
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    It depends on how many back slots you have in the bank vs the characters. The way I do it is, things that every character can use such as Trait and Style Gems go in the bank. Then my crafters carry their own inventory so the clothier carries all the cloth and leather, black smither carries all the metals etc. With the new provisioning changes I was able to put all my provisioning mats in the bank, so that's nice now. My bank is also big enough that I can put my Alchemy stuff in there too. I still don't have enough room to put equipment mats, but I only have one crafter for each of those, so they can carry that stuff.

    Back when space was precious, I would use a mule alt, log into them, clean out the bank, then load my farming character. Run the farmer looting mobs, load up the bank, when it was full, log into the crafter (they can be parked at the crafting station and decon from the bank inventory) decon everything, then load the farmer back up. Rinse Repeat. When done, the mule would put the stuff back in the bank for the crafters share again.
    Enjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.

    PakKat "Everything was going well, until I died"
    Gary Gravestink "I am glad you died, I needed the help"

  • MarconiusBal
    So correct me if I'm wrong I just want to make sure that I am 100% prepared.

    To do list:
    1. Buy bag space
    2. Find loot items(Drueghside)
    3. Deconstruct loot items
    4.Put unused items in the bank
    5. Repeat to max level of smithing

    Am I ready?

    If you want to you can add me as Marconius Gromaloch or maybe louch I forget...
  • Vandril
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    So correct me if I'm wrong I just want to make sure that I am 100% prepared.

    To do list:
    1. Buy bag space
    2. Find loot items(Drueghside)
    3. Deconstruct loot items
    4.Put unused items in the bank
    5. Repeat to max level of smithing

    Am I ready?

    If you want to you can add me as Marconius Gromaloch or maybe louch I forget...

    I did pretty much this and maxed every non-consumable craft this way. It works fine.

    But, yes, you'll need bag space, bank alts, or otherwise somewhere to put your inventory. There's a LOT of crafting items in this game (though most of them are for consumable crafts).
  • MarconiusBal
    Thanks and if anyone is interested I have recently(like 2 hours ago) started different post in different forums on this site.

    Check them out!
  • ch1no92
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    Something you could also add to your list, I tend to stack up quickly on mats because I'm constantly deconstructing; whenever I have x100 or more of any mat I make daggers/light armor/medium armor and sell it. Makes room for more stuff in the bank and nets you some income too. OH and a big one is before you decon anything, check to see if you can research something, this way you'll soon be able to make full armor sets and really start making that money!!!!!
  • MarconiusBal
    Kay thanks! I never thought this would turn into an actual post so quickly.
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