Nirnhoned, Sharperned: plz Explain it to me like I'm 5

Joy_Division · March 2015

I have heard ever since the game's release that these are "broken." I have inferred that sometimes these are broken in a "they-hardly-so-anything" way, i.e. they do little above a plain old staff, sword or whatever. I have also inferred that these are broken in a "they-work-way-too-good" way in that they ignore/penetrate way too much spell resistance. Apparently last week Nirnhoned was broken in the too-good way and now I hear they are broken in a harldly-so-anything way.

Can someone please once and for all explain what these traits are supposed to do and what they currently do on Live so that I, others who are confused, and the developers know exactly what is going on.

mrvbalc · March 2015

Nirnhoned weapon : Increases Spell Resistance and Spell Penetration by 5% (1H), 10% (2H)

But because of a bug now this nirnhoned weapons completely ignoring the opponents Spell resistance, means when one attacking a person with nirnhoned weapon equipped, all his spells doing 100% damage, with Jesus beam and all those other bugged spells and with a nirnhoned weapon you can imagine how ppl can abuse this exploit, hence all this chaos

MissBizz · March 2015

I actually recently made a video about all the traits here

Nirnhoned on a weapon increases your spell resistance (which is like you armor against magic) and spell penetration (which helps your spells get through other people's spell resistance)

Sharpened increases you armor (armor that saves you when getting physically hit, like a stamina attack), and increases your spell penetrations (which helps your spells get through other people's spell resistance)

Qyrk · March 2015

mrvbalc wrote: »

Nirnhoned weapon : Increases Spell Resistance and Spell Penetration by 5% (1H), 10% (2H)

But because of a bug now this nirnhoned weapons completely ignoring the opponents Spell resistance, means when one attacking a person with nirnhoned weapon equipped, all his spells doing 100% damage, with Jesus beam and all those other bugged spells and with a nirnhoned weapon you can imagine how ppl can abuse this exploit, hence all this chaos

they technically fixed it on 2.0.1

Itemization
Fixed an issue where Nirnhoned was ignoring all of a target’s Spell Resistance instead of the value specified in the tooltip.

vovus69 · March 2015

Are those stack? I mean - you have x% spell resist on one piece of armor and same x% on another. How much it will be when you wear them ? x or 2x % spell resist?

MissBizz · March 2015

Nirnhoned is fixed.

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

There is a bug with the Sharpened Trait that we're working on a fix for.

As a reminder, we understand frustration over outstanding bugs, but please keep it constructive and respectful.

Source: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/1637360#Comment_1637360

Qyrk · March 2015

vovus69 wrote: »

Are those stack? I mean - you have x% spell resist on one piece of armor and same x% on another. How much it will be when you wear them ? x or 2x % spell resist?

I'm assuming you're asking regarding the numbers mentioned by mrvbalc. Look closely, he means 1 handed weapon and 2 handed weapons

Nirn armor can stack on each other to get the most spell resist, yes

vovus69 · March 2015

no. I meant armor, not weapon. So I presume, armor is also stack. This is good.

MissBizz · March 2015

vovus69 wrote: »

Are those stack? I mean - you have x% spell resist on one piece of armor and same x% on another. How much it will be when you wear them ? x or 2x % spell resist?

That would be the nirnhoned armor trait, which to the best of my knowledge, was never bugged.

DogFaceInBananaPatch · March 2015

MissBizz wrote: »

I actually recently made a video about all the traits here

Good video and will probably watch some more as I catch up again after some time off the game.

Joy_Division · March 2015

OK, I saw that they "fixed" it as well.

But I hear from multiple people nirnhoned now is back to the "hardly-does-anything" state.